Frage von KM22:
Good evening!
After I sold my JVC GY-DV500 by their size and the associated poor transportability again, I am now back on the search for a suitable second-hand semi-professional DV camcorder.
After some research, the SonyVX2000 or VX2100 and the Panasonic DVX100 or DVX100A have come into my short list.
When SonyVX2000 would have the weitwinkelfähige lens of the Panasonic DVX100, I'd go for the VX2000, as it is cheaper to obtain, first, second and achieved a better image quality in lowlight area.
But why has fitted a Manufacturer as Sonyin but otherwise have a good camera, as is the VX2000, a lens with a focal length of only 43mm top (KB äqivalent)?
Since I would often shoot indoors synonymous like documentaries and movies about cities, is to me a sufficient wide-angle camera in the decision regarding the purchase of a decisive factor.
Of course it is possible to equip the VX2000 with a wide angle converter to compensate for the weak ability of the wide-angle lens, but this in turn is connected with negative impact on the weight of the camera during the shoot out of his hand, which means that the camcorder is not as balanced in the hand but is front-loaded and for stabilizing the camcorder more effort is needed.
In addition, synonymous of high quality suffers when using the optical imaging quality converter in the form of a slight loss of sharpness, vignetting and light loss.
Or maybe someone here has a positive experience with the picture quality of high-quality converters WW s.der VX2000 or VX2100? With a loss of light of how many f-stops when using this converter is expected to be about?
How does the use of converters in practice to the weight of the VX2000 in the hand?
Perhaps Hat jemand einen Comparison regarding the operation and the picture quality between the VX2000 and the Panasonic DVX100?
If the behavior of the DVX100 lowlight really much worse than that of the VX2000?
Or should I leave you prefer wide-angle shots of my EOS 20D? ;-)
I would be very glad if it were here in the forum someone who could take my questions.
Thank you in advance for your answers!
MfG
Klaus
Antwort von PowerMac:
The DVX! Definitely! The DVX is a completely different class!
From handling, Picture ... Low Light at the DVX is good enough.
I've been tested time a PD170 to my DVX. The PD170 is really cheap, front tilt over, has fiddly buttons, all hiding somewhere, needs extra nen WW, the battery does not lasts long, viewfinder and monitor are extremely cheap, not coupled Zoom, Focus badly ...
General picture as well, no 25p ...
Antwort von KM22:
Good evening!
Thanks for your answer, PowerMac!
Is it worth the zuzulegen the DVX100A or more expensive ranges of the purchase of the predecessor model DVX100 out completely?
What improvements has the DVX100A offer more than the DVX100, if only the interlaced mode is used?
And which model of the two you actually possess?
MfG
Klaus
Antwort von jens:
In the price category I would place both s.deiner cameras (VX2100 - try DVX100) and compare. PowerMac information I think is a bit too exaggerated (unless the price really does) not matter. Have you actually ever thought s.The FX1?
By the way:
What improvements has the DVX100A offer more than the DVX100, if only the interlaced mode is used?
Meanwhile, there are already the
AG-DVX100 B No matter how you choose:
Congratulations to a very good camera ;-)
Jens
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
the light sensitivity is 170 better at SonyPD, the noise of the Panasonic DVX 100 A in the 25 P mode is clearly seen today
The color monitor is bigger, the Panasonic, have your viewfinder instead we prefer to build a Black White Viewfinder (Higher Resolutionzb or simply more Scharfeinstellungsmöglichkeit) The viewfinder has only 180,000 pixels.
Interesting what is fashion Sonynicht CHK In an area of 0-99, you can save sharpness and zoom. Thus we find different focus quickly and zoom settings once again for rapid recurrent change of position.
The Wide Anglevon 32.5 mm (50 °), the Panasonic is still remarkable.
Nevertheless, the two models but almost equal, despite Panasonic - Noise and Sony - No 25 P.
At the end comes it but just like Jens has scribbling it ...
LG
January
Antwort von Markus:
I've been tested time a PD170 to my DVX. The PD170 is really cheap, front tilt over, has fiddly buttons, all hiding somewhere, needs extra nen WW, the battery does not lasts long, viewfinder and monitor are extremely cheap, not coupled Zoom, Focus Picture generally so bad ... oh well ... Hi All,
my experience to see something (!) different: The processing of the PD170 has a high quality and the automatic modes (and indeed everyone, including Focus and White Balance!) work very reliable. At the time I was also before the election, which of the two models, I suppose - and opted for the PD170. ;-)
Objective is to benchmark the following:
Help purchase a new camcorder ... Link there!
Antwort von rtzbild:
Good evening!
[select btwn consumercam Sony VX2000 / VX2100 and prosumercam Panasonic DVX100 / dvx100a]
Or should I leave you prefer wide-angle shots of my EOS 20D? ;-)
Klaus Hello Klaus,
dier EOS is a camera, nothing for movies, o)
Sonv VX-2000 / 2100: both equally well, 2100 something halt improved successor.
Konsumercamcorder.
Pana AG-DVX 100 AE:
ProsumerCamcorder having more options, handling some friendly (besoders with my shovel), slightly more expensive.
You're comparing two different devices for different target groups:
VX-2000 / VX-2100: Ambitious amateur, sometimes pro. _sehr_ But only occasionally.
AG-DVX 100 AE: INTERMEDIATE / Professional / VJ @ TV, film people.
Successor AG-DVX 100 BE on the road. ( "E" = Europe, PAL)
Take the Pana. You'll love it: o)
HTH
Gruß Olli
* of toying with a DVX 100 AE *
Antwort von PowerMac:
I've been tested time a PD170 to my DVX. The PD170 is really cheap, front tilt over, has fiddly buttons, all hiding somewhere, needs extra nen WW, the battery does not lasts long, viewfinder and monitor are extremely cheap, not coupled Zoom, Focus Picture generally so bad ... oh well ...
Hi All,
my experience to see something (!) different: The processing of the PD170 has a high quality and the automatic modes (and indeed everyone, including Focus and White Balance!) work very reliable. At the time I was also before the election, which of the two models, I suppose - and opted for the PD170. ;-)
Objective is to benchmark the following:
Help purchase a new camcorder ... Link there! So I've watched yesterday ne hour, the PD170.
I think so horrible! Since the "normal" Optics is quite tight, you need the WW-converter. But then the camera tilts completely forward. Hand-held camera that never goes. Steadicam ... m. E. after it tips over too much in front.
The display is really small and totally blurred. Comparing the two camera views. Or the Viewfinder: is small, cheap and "mushy".
That the PD170 will be high-quality processing, I do not think. This plastic and all the little buttons. Terrible. If so, perhaps that was intended for the DVX s.Kameraleute rather, everything is where I expect it and it makes sense ergonomically.
In addition, the optics is coupled with the DVX manual. A Reißzoom with the power of Sony - God forbid;)
All right, murmurs the DVX. Me no preference because I usually good movies and / or illumination. I was a few months in New Zealand on the road, while the DVX. The images that have emerged since the 25p mode. Dreamlike! Looks like 16mm. Soft, beautiful colors, great contrast.
I hope that the difference has been found.
In contrast, I think the FX1 prop very well. Much more ergonomic than the PD170, good picture. Only then videomäßig. Processing even cheaper with pure plastic.
Patrick
Antwort von Feuerwehr-Fan:
hello together
betr of cheap processing and the plastic housing, I can only say is a massive build than you might think!
Recently, I unfortunately hit my PD 150 s.der edge of the wooden benches, and they there, as if by a miracle, the camera was full, but the bank got from scarring one, not the camera!
betr of quality I can only say that I am very satisfied. would always buy another sony, sony builds of the best times of my cameras!
gruss Fire Fan
Antwort von Markus:
This thread is developing so for policy discussion Sonyvs. Panasonic! ;-)
betr ... and the processing of the cheap plastic casing, I can only say is a massive build than you might think! This is certainly synonymous because the chassis of the PD150/170 including fold-out viewfinder, metal (aluminum?) And is not made of plastic.
Antwort von Axel:
I would
never denigrate the VX2000, I am very happy with it. I would not trade them but against the Panasonic and drauflegen yet, despite poorer lowlights latter. Advantages: WW-Optics, progressive
and self-controlled XLR inputs.
Antwort von Markus:
The XLR inputs (microphone or / and Line) can disqualify the PD170 separated synonymous. The VX2000 has a consumer camcorder no XLR connections. ;-)
Antwort von KM22:
Good evening!
Thank you for the many responses to my question.
Above all, your reviews have encouraged me in my decision to prefer the DVX100 the VX2000.
I think if it really delivers what it promises and what to tell your wonderful reviews on this camera, then I would really love it :-)
Naturally, I will tell you as soon as I got my DVX100A and could test a little, let s.meinen share experiences in dealing with this camcorder.
MfG
Klaus
