Frage von FriedrichNietzsche:
Hello,
as a passionate amateur filmmaker, I ask in all humility to offer a professional tip.
I took about a year ago, the small Handcam SonyDCR increased HC 40. Now, I have been so many zusammengedreht and cut, which for domestic use and one or other leg Thumper was sufficient to friends.
Now I plan to but together with a friend and insignificant Statistenpöbel for the next semester break a small film project. Emergence, a short film that is synonymous halfway after film and not the funniest home videos of RTL2 looks.
The HC40 is hardly feasible. I'm playing now with the idea of me the semi-VX 1000 used zuzulegen because my budget just yet endures.
Is it useful to my fairly new HC 40 for sale and I needed ten years old technique zuzulegen? Is the quality of a big leap? With broadcast quality has so far produced my quite little in common ... Despite great efforts with light, Tripod, etc.
Kindly request for assessments,
Friedrich Nietzsche
Antwort von AndyZZ:
I would not do it! Ten years is a very long time. You do not know what all the VX1000 has joined. If you then such a used VX2000 or VX2100 better, it should be for a new non-rich.
But please do not expect that your films now ten times better. Of course, one makes a good picture and good sound for a good movie. But the real art lies in Directing, camera work, script, Schauchspieler ... The technology is only a means to an end.
Antwort von FriedrichNietzsche:
;-) Very clear that this film is not "better" is. The question is purely on image quality.
I have not synonymous, the first of 1000 to buy VX, `95, the tape is gone. But unfortunately, I probably would have some risk if it because, as in my first contribution to inquire, really a leap would be positive, because my absolute maximum is located at 1000 ¬.
I ask for further estimates - Thank you!
Antwort von nightworker:
Hi,
worth considering (in addition to the usual risks of a second hand purchase):
- The standard version does not have DV-in (AV-in non-synonymous)
- Light sensitivity is contradictory judged (at the VX 2100, on the other hand
uncontroversial)
For Ebay are currently on the way, two VX 1000 under 1000 Eur offered.
An alternative may be synonymous SonyTRV 900th
Gruss
ph
Antwort von FriedrichNietzsche:
Hello,
first thank you for your opinion.
With DV-in and AV-in, you have rather that I would go angelesen been synonymous. Think not that I need these inputs. Will the entire raw material via firewire to the PC and then to edit ertigstellung, which I have done so synonymous. Do not know why I started again on the material should be transferred Kamara.
The two on ebay, I have been synonymous in the eye ... Danke für `s vision.
What for me is even more interesting would be an assessment in terms of professional image quality with regard to Old vs. New Technology for amateur equipment.
My DCR-HC40 was - in the amateur segment - synonymous with Stiftung Warentest test winner, but I can not really argue with the picture quality, ie sharpness, colors and contrast right to be satisfied.
By asking for more articles and assessments
Friedrich Nietzsche
Antwort von nightworker:
Hi
in terms of color fidelity and contrast brings a three-chip camcorder, in my experience a significant improvement in quality compared to a 'Einchipper'. Most have a better synonymous Optics and relatively more chip area per pixel - which is the sharpness and light sensitivity of the benefit. Presumably, this is still synonymous for antiquities such as the VX 1000 - as long as one is talking about SD.
The newer HDV Einchipper set new standards on the other hand, apparently
(see, for example http://www.camcorder-test.com/camcordercmd-i-view-u-what-i-detail-u-id-i-18-u-name-i- Canon HV10.html)
Gruss
A. Lou Salomé
Antwort von FriedrichNietzsche:
Thank you love of my life for your rating ;-)
Antwort von Axel:
As owners of the VX1000 and VX2000, occasional users of other Can / Pan 3-Chipper and the FX1, as well as limited experience with several large palm Einchippern (Sun / Can / JVC) I can the importance of 3CCds only confirm. It is justified, of a quality leap to speak.
The 1000 has no significant Lowlight performance if they are synonymous in their time pansige the Canon XL1 has beaten it, just that the colors in low light were even better. As always synonymous, no - for today's conditions - Tired light, there is only the choice between Gain and Noise tunnel atmosphere (namely, when the gain wegdreht). This must be taken, for reports with XL Recordings can new cams no longer just those with the 1000 cut together.
Power light, and my recommendation is one hundred percent.
Another question is the price. If the over 800 ¬, I would still prefer to lay out a bit and I was-ahem -
somewhat Newer buy s.deiner body.
Antwort von nightworker:
Hello Axel,
synonymous grateful for your experience report.
Ne new camera in this class is definitely not in question. In the 1000s ebay go for about 850 ¬ away, ne 2000s for about 1150th
You have both your camcorder. Is the 2000 vx your opinion as much quality as the price (in percentage terms) more expensive? (<- Questionable wording, but I hope you know what I mean ...)
Unfortunately really have a limited student budget, but very demanding, which is sometimes bad ;-)
If the 1000s exposed to bad situations is inappropriate and almost the 2000s, the lengths to better cope, I have the next birthday or the sudden death of a previously unknown Erbonkels wait ...
The easiest way would of course be the 1000 times antesten to be, perhaps I would unverwöhnter A chip-Cam users will still be sufficiently excited.
Antwort von FriedrichNietzsche:
The last contribution was of course me, the dear Lord Nietzsche.
Antwort von mw:
Fritz Chen,
synonymous if we have occasional rival, I would like again to my tip 900 with the TRV to come back. The old is synonymous, but has a pretty good Lowlight behavior - no Grieseln synonymous with almost complete darkness (I know this because I use them - in addition to my Einchipper TRV 20). The gibts occasionally synonymous with ebay. I've almost unused for approx. Get 600 Euros.
Your Paule
Antwort von mw:
PS
http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/
Antwort von Axel:
If the 1000s exposed to bad situations almost inappropriate ... I spoke of a situation report, the lights when you can not control. Example: Simultaneous use of the 1000 and 2000 in the documentation of a cut in a large exhibition foyer (sparse daylight, the various software cartons specifically gleißend bright lights and displays). Gain on both cams to 3dB limited (no annoying noise). The 1000 shows only what is directly illuminated, manual focus, because the auto's too dark (which otherwise works well and not "pumping"). The 2000 shows all as one's looks, and even the AF can do.
Films du machst but planned and light, then there is no difference. Another example: theater, modern ballet. The lighting has everything: pursuer spots on the Dancers (partly
against!), Many ever-changing dramatic lighting situations. Manual exposure and focus. The darkness outside the light cone is wanted. Here, the 2000 will not be home advantage anymore. What does it for you, you'll even know.
... the 2000s and the lengths to better cope, I have the next birthday or the sudden death of a previously unknown Erbonkels wait ... 800 ¬ I called for the 1000s as a border. The price / performance ratio of the 2000s - synonymous in comparison to modern Cams - I would rather be 1500 ¬ tap. A difference of only 300 ¬ would bring me to the Erbonkel still alive so disgusting anzuschleimen that this emotion before the 300 hits rausrückt.
One more word about DV-in, a practical example: You have a project completed, which, say, 30 minutes. DVD is the medium. On your player and perhaps even to that of a fellow do you like the movie. Now it goes to a hi-fi hack the best player, the best TV / projector and the sound has all the best. As you will realize that we still have to be corrected there (most notably the sound mixing). Here you would be of little use if its a tape of the finished film would have, it needs the raw materials and the original project files that you hopefully still have on disk. Depending on the size and complexity can easily 30 minutes or more 50 GB show. That ye will not for all eternity on a hard drive can. So, after the film is finally ready for you, is a DV tape simply the ideal archiving medium.
It is playing a movie directly to the cam of an optimal method to make a film to a wider audience (Beamer, e-cinema) condition.
Older serial numbers of the VX1000, however, synonymous unlock: Google.
Antwort von mw:
@ Paul: Thank you for your passionate dedication to the TRV900. I've already read a bit and - what happened to me was much lighter - images are viewed, so unfortunately I have to complain about a missing handle, as I did as important. Perfect size and better than small and Fummel ... And your comments on the effectiveness in poorly lit situations, I have found considerable interest, since my not high enough to assess script already provides many dark scenes. Thanks for the re-thought.
May you still ungeklärterweise rush of a mountain.
@ Axel: Thank you for your accurate description of the behavior of the cameras in different lighting situations. I've really only, in planned scenarios ie prepared to shoot - but "düster planned" ... What conclusion I draw from this? Then probably still better the vx2000, right?
PS: If my - as mentioned - so far unknown Erbonkel paradoxically already known, I would long ago in a sailor suit as a teasing little nervous about Steppke toe and heel wippend before him and give the best Christmas songs. Not to forget about the big lollipop in my hand.
Then I have to go clean but naked ... ;-(
Antwort von FriedrichNietzsche:
D `oh! Top. I.
Antwort von mw:
complain about lack of grip, which I already consider to be important what if the thing in your rotation usually stands on a tripod? More interesting is the possibility of a mE remote (via LANC), which is possibly s.Schwenkhebel the tripod mount can.
P.
... Chen and Fritz ... swear not always ... makes einsam
Antwort von FriedrichNietzsche:
Well, since you have actually quite ... Can not handle the decision criterion.
Hab nochmal now contacted my landlord, who works at BR. The opinion, I should in any case a SonyVX assume that he has both the 1000s with the 2000s as synonymous only very good experiences. When I do not want to buy older, then only the VX. Actually apply everywhere as a standard. So if the BR is sufficient, it should be synonymous meet my quality standards.
That means I save up to March ne VX2000 to synonymous nothing wrong thing ... Taste the Dealers (2-year warranty ...!) about 1500 ¬
Thanks for your tips and suggestions!
Antwort von Markus:
Hi,
here will always be the low light performance as a quality characteristic of a camcorder called ... but with enough light of these parameters would be totally uninteresting.
In addition to the image design and dramaturgy plays primarily (synonymous) the light is a crucial role in whether the scenes as "Pannanshow" or "film" effect.
So the money would be seen perhaps in a better light is created as a suitcase in another camcorder?
