Frage von Alex.A:
Hello,
After I let all the (almost) and Wolfgang's Forum Blog durchfostet did, is now the final decision for the purchase is still in question.
In my view, has the following advantages for the two cams:
Canon XH A1:
- Good Lowlight
- Better focus
- Internal Micro iO
- Holder for external Micro exist
- Alledenkbaren settings
SonyFX1:
- Beautiful design
- Accustomed very quickly, because at the moment using the SonyVX2100
- Large LCD display
- Purchase cheaper
What bothers me s.der FX1 is the lack of sharpness and poor Micro. It could be synonymous attach an external Micro, but I would like the existing rail for additional lighting to use. Alternative possible? HAMA except those rails.
Question s.FX1 User: There is the possibility PICTURE PROFILES on the manual settings to manage. Here's the item SHARPNESS. Has anyone already tried this value to 15 (harder) to make and how did this affect the imaging results?
What would you take if your against this decision would stand?
Use of the Cam is at weddings and celebrations.
For tips and recommendations, I would be very grateful.
Gruss
Alex.A
Antwort von Helloweenie:
In principle, you have the answer already given themselves, provided it comes at you like quality.
Otherwise I can not imagine that
- Beautiful design
- Fast Settling
are indeed noteworthy and distinctive characteristics such as sharpness, Lowlight behavior, quality of sound, etc. same as above weighting points get?
My decision would be easy: I would take the A1 because it clearly is the better cam. And beautiful does not mean better, easier, cheaper, but simply technically superior!
Antwort von Alex.A:
The quality of course, s.1. Place ...
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... I would take the A1 because it clearly is the better cam ... Even as a staunch fan of Sony, Canon camcorders never could be interesting, I see that in this case exceptionally well: The FX1 is a class below the XH-A1 and the measure more comparable V1 overpriced.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Gast 100:
... I would take the A1 because it clearly is the better cam ...
Even as a staunch fan of Sony, Canon camcorders never could be interesting, I see that in this case exceptionally well: The FX1 is a class below the XH-A1 and the measure more comparable V1 overpriced.
Gruß Bernd E. Faith some people actually saying what they are so of themselves.
Video friend
Antwort von Bernd E.:
[quote = "Guest 100 "][... believe some people actually saying what they are so of themselves. [/ quote]
If I knew what you mean by that, I could tell you this Halbfrage likely answer.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
... I would take the A1 because it clearly is the better cam ...
Even as a staunch fan of Sony, Canon camcorders never could be interesting, I see that in this case exceptionally well: The FX1 is a class below the XH-A1 and the measure more comparable V1 overpriced.
Gruß Bernd E.
Faith some people actually saying what they are so of themselves.
Video friend As I am sure. And I put one on top!
The FX1 is two classes under the Canon.
Antwort von Helloweenie:
As I am sure. And I put one on top!
The FX1 is two classes under the Canon. and lands where in your classroom, the HV20?
(some say the picture was not much worse)
gruß cj
Antwort von r.p.television:
Question s.FX1 User: There is the possibility PICTURE PROFILES on the manual settings to manage. Here's the item SHARPNESS. Has anyone already tried this value to 15 (harder) to make and how did this affect the imaging results?
Of these, one can only advise.
Firstly, the image noise is increased. Secondly, the image contours inflated. It looks as if everything with a black felt-tip pen was surrounded, but not really sharper.
The camera works with the controversial pixel shift, ie not bright CCDs with 1440x1080, but with the FX1, it was something with 960x?.
The man is not on the image detail, that a real sharpness - not artificial Kantenaufsteilung - showed everyone can think.
While arguing engineers from Sony that the pixel shift brings a disadvantage. As I ask myself but why all the camcorder to work with Pixel Shift (synonymous the HVX200) with blurred or poor detail Picture suffer?
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
As I am sure. And I put one on top!
The FX1 is two classes under the Canon.
and lands where in your classroom, the HV20?
(some say the picture was not much worse)
gruß cj Can I have nothing to say. Have I correctly as far as no material from the HV20 to face.
It is synonymous not only on the Picture to. This is an important criterion but it is only one among many. Handling, use of facilities, sound equipment, manual setting options and more.
@ rp The tell everybody but the procedure it would be really great.
Wall halt advertising business ...
Antwort von scubavideo1:
We have a newly A1 give a V1E applies to.
My rating:
In terms of optical quality of the lens is the V1E A1 clearly superior. The chromatic aberration of the A1 is a lot stronger.
The Lens of the V1 has a higher light intensity.
Without hand optimization of the various picture settings, the Picture of the A1 muddy and sluggish. With optimized parameters from the Internet, it was bright as the V1, but very acceptable.
The V1E has four predefined standard profiles and two other locations on their own. My attempt to the "film look" profile to have only "verschlimmbessert". Sonyhat apparently some time in the preparation of these profiles invesiert.
It is well known that all Manufacturer (except JVC) with their cameras in this class heftig box of tricks and physical Resolutionder chips generally smaller than 1920 x 1080 is. Although the Canon sensors with the highest release installs, we were able to HDV material V1E of A1 and no significant difference. Good possible that the comparison would be different if you using HD-SDI (or G1) or HDMI gecapturte raw data would compare.
Two definite weaknesses V1E (and synonymous to the FX7) sensors are small (1 / 4 inch instead of 1 / 3 inch in A1). The resulting focal length extension of the lens moves the KB-equivalent focal length to 39 - 800 For nature filmmaker ok for indoor pictures simply unusable.
Lowlight-tests, we have not done, but I can say that the V1 in Comparison to the VX2000 will lose two stops. Ok - the VX2000 is a SD camcorder, but for concert recordings, etc. I miss this light it is.
The hefty surcharge of Euro 1500 of the FX7 to V1E has a few reasons:
- Tonanschlüsse XLR with phantom power (on the A1, however, synonymous)
- 1080i compatible mode 25 (in the case of A1 is 25p a proprietary solution)
- Support SonyPro (the needs of the private man, but who with his camera deserves Money is glad when he one week maximum must renounce it. In my case it was after 3 days back.)
- This is now a presumption of me, but compared with previous tests of two SonyTRV900 with a PD100 bestäigt have:
The professional series has better Lenses!
Conclusion:
The Canon A1 is currently s.meisten for Money. Depending on the purpose can SonyV1E better results, but at a much higher price (a thorough search on the Internet is worth, it is occasionally used for well below 4000 euro to find).
The SonyFX7 in my opinion, is not a serious competitor to the A1.
.... my 2 cents ....
Kai
Antwort von Helloweenie:
if da (v1/fx7) really different objective to produce
I can not imagine ...
(synonymous as the images in the database show Slashcam camcorder)
how should this be in the Zeiss production look like?
comparison between those who s.and FX7 material may be examined at
www.fxsupport.de
runterladen.
gruß cj
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... ... if there really different objective to produce, I can hardly imagine ... how is this supposed to Zeiss in the production look like? Just as synonymous with other things: At the end of production, quality control - those lenses, which are certain tolerance criteria will be higher in the camera installed, the others come in cheaper. Whether it is in the specific case of Sony / Zeiss is so, I am of course not.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Helloweenie:
interesting ...
but usually has one but not the majority of
charge under the tolleranzkriterien, because the cheaper cams
(a1/g1, fx1/z1, fx7/v1) but are more commonly sold.
gruß cj
Antwort von Helloweenie:
FX-1 vs.. XH A-1
Good and bad - lach.
My discussed as if there are worlds between
Antwort von hauhar:
There is a big difference synonymous. Like so many really know it.
Vll. should be the host with its easy Proll Editcam HD or 35mm Krams his play, a purely Näschen drag and stop such a Stuss write:-P
Antwort von Maximilian Flügellos:
A well-known popular actors say times "what the people fighting around ......."
On this subject I will only refer to the article
"The Vollprofis" in the ACTIVE DIGITAL VIDEO Magazine No 2, February / March 2008, Page 28 - 33 indicates. Since everything is said.
Gruß Max
Antwort von Alex.A:
The fact is now confirmed that the A1 provides more functions.
However, I fear that Canon may be more problems than Sony as synonymous of Wolfgang's blog confirmed. I need the camera but on-call work. Until now I had problems with Sonykeinerlei and so it should be synonymous in the future.
A1 Gibts synonymous with the users are satisfied your camera without the camera 5 times to be exchanged?
Greetings and Thanks for all information.
Antwort von r.p.television:
The fact is now confirmed that the A1 provides more functions.
However, I fear that Canon may be more problems than Sony as synonymous of Wolfgang's blog confirmed. I need the camera but on-call work. Until now I had problems with Sonykeinerlei and so it should be synonymous in the future.
A1 Gibts synonymous with the users are satisfied your camera without the camera 5 times to be exchanged?
Greetings and Thanks for all information. I had as otherwise mainly (happier) SONY-user initially synonymous fear that I am with my Canon (XL H1 and XH A1) significant cuts in reliability do it. Until now, no single problem.
The XL H1 now i owned for about 20 months and the XH A1 for 3 months.
The housing is as high as in the past of my PD150 processed. The Canon was oltenen drives make me a good service. It was just the XL H1 even under extreme conditions (dust, salt spray, vibration, heat, cold, nicotine, etc.) in use.
Either I was lucky or unlucky.
I can confirm if all that Panasonic is not with glory when it comes to reliable drives goes.
Antwort von Axel:
Since June 07 and approximately 25h period, I have the A1 synonymous with no problems.
The FX1 is one for the money, what they needed now achieved good camera with good optics, haptics and logic. Your images may not be fleeting but even with those of the A1 will be confused. The comparison is unfair, but if it is in place, this is the Conclusion.
Antwort von hauhar:
Your images may not be fleeting but even with those of the A1 will be confused. The comparison is unfair, but if it is in place, this is the Conclusion. I can confirm synonymous.
I even have the following happens:
After I use the sharp footage of an XL H1 (as XH A1) and a handle of the FX1 to the recorded tape dubbing had brought, I thought only I had inadvertently taken a copy of the DV HDV material erwischt.
That sounds almost common now, but a direct comparison is a really almost as before.
What the FX1 is pleasant, on the other hand: Your Picture is a bit calmer. But that is synonymous with the better display next to the only advantage.
Antwort von r.p.television:
The above was me.
Logoff fucking car!
Antwort von Gast 100:
Your images may not be fleeting but even with those of the A1 will be confused. The comparison is unfair, but if it is in place, this is the Conclusion.
I can confirm synonymous.
I even have the following happens:
After I use the sharp footage of an XL H1 (as XH A1) and a handle of the FX1 to the recorded tape dubbing had brought, I thought only I had inadvertently taken a copy of the DV HDV material erwischt.
That sounds almost common now, but a direct comparison is a really almost as before.
What the FX1 is pleasant, on the other hand: Your Picture is a bit calmer. But that is synonymous with the better display next to the only advantage. An experienced filmmaker should be clear, making the alleged
difference s.Resolution come. Such comparisons are so called amateur prison and it requires further Declaration None. They contribute only to confusion and uncertainty in.
Hans Ernst
Antwort von Axel:
An experienced filmmaker should be clear, making the alleged difference s.Resolution come. Such comparisons are so called amateur prison and it requires further Declaration None. They contribute only to confusion and uncertainty in.
Hans Ernst So, like you, dear Hans, contributions to the confusion. Are you even the "experienced filmmakers," where everything is clear, or do you assume that at some point while surfing on the thread and push sovereign smile weiterklickt? This is a forum for the exchange of experiences.
What the FX1 is pleasant, on the other hand: Your Picture is a bit calmer. What do you mean with "quiet"?
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
I suppose s.er says the multi s.Ruhe which is a softer picture with camera movements commercials. With over sharp and detailed images, it seems my restless when the camera is moved, as much by the small and very easy to focus erkennde details easily be perceived as "a milky surface"
Antwort von j.t.jefferson:
So, I wrote my XH-A1 is now synonymous for about a year, and I had no problems so far.
Have occasionally been synonymous with its FX1 worked and can only confirm what has already been written synonymous. The FX is really very blurred as the A1.
What I particularly like s.meiner A1 is the further aperture ring, but that is geschmackssache.
Antwort von j.t.jefferson:
So we put both CAMS On.
The XHA1 has been over a year, the FX1 a second camera for 4 months ago.
To XHA1 that was after a long search, to switch to HDV, after unpacking, trunk restore presets (Fxsupport.de) love at first sight. Knack Sharp images, super auto, aperture ring with extra soft trim levels, Geniales LOW Light - obviously with noise, but so fine that it is in the sharpness almost works beautifully again, excellent processing and runs and runs and runs. Did we still have no turning abandoned. TOP dream device - price.
Even the equipment can hardly be desired.
For FX1 obviously not with the A1 to compare because of the already rather
Consumer - Equipment (no XLR and extent ..) but what can I say
the decision was to purchase a second camera, the A1
ergenzt and emergency synonymous at times turning a substitute. The purchase price
between the two CAM's varrierte then at about 500 euros. Had
The main Camera Sonydie been, I would say that 500 euros would
I like to pay more and even top 800. However, I must say synonymous, the FX1 synonymous CAM is a superpower. Also I know the
Horror - especially when comparisons topic sharpness. But let's face it, a truly visible difference appears to me only with shots and already
LOW really dark-light situations, since the FX1 is really strong
from, but synonymous less noisy than the A1.
I think you know what wuß the CAM needs. Both
professional equipment in your price range is super. My advice, if
First camera, then 500, - EURO more pay and XHA1. The money is good
invested and the value is definitely there.
To Teszwecken I had synonymous times the FX7. In my eyes tend Consumer - class. And the price is justified keien case.
CAM TO this I would draw no more than if you are a good 1000, - Euro
would be cheaper.
As an "Always in your car - CAM" we have the HV20. Bought for 850, - Euro.
For Optimal - light and no limit situations, certainly a very
Good CAM, but only consumers, but for the price in absolute terms,
recommended. I think the biggest shortcoming - LOW-Light,
here is believed not HDV, but almost VHS before it.
You can still spend hours on CAMS philosophise important
is what must be the turning situations CAM clean capture.
Antwort von Alex.A:
Thank you for the many experiences and opinions, the decision is clear, an XH A1 is needed ...
Thanks for the support.
Antwort von Alex.A:
Moins,
A question has come up yet, which uses your Cassette with the Canon XH A1 and the additional lighting is recommended (good for the original Canon of what?)?
Antwort von hhmb:
Have me a XXL-Pack Sony Premium tapes purchased and am so far without failure. As additional lighting I recommend Panther Romy 75LL adequate lighting and a suitcase (Ianiro, Sachtler, Panther, Dedo ...)
Antwort von VIDEOAKTIV DIGITAL:
Your images may not be fleeting but even with those of the A1 will be confused. The comparison is unfair, but if it is in place, this is the Conclusion.
I can confirm synonymous.
I even have the following happens:
After I use the sharp footage of an XL H1 (as XH A1) and a handle of the FX1 to the recorded tape dubbing had brought, I thought only I had inadvertently taken a copy of the DV HDV material erwischt.
That sounds almost common now, but a direct comparison is a really almost as before.
What the FX1 is pleasant, on the other hand: Your Picture is a bit calmer. But that is synonymous with the better display next to the only advantage.
An experienced filmmaker should be clear, making the alleged difference s.Resolution come. Such comparisons are so called amateur prison and it requires further Declaration None. They contribute only to confusion and uncertainty in.
Hans Ernst Just for clarification:
I do not know who 'host 100' aka "Hans Ernst" - but I'm definitely not.
So rarely is the name is again not synonymous, and there were so synonymous ever own a famous poet, the so-called. Maybe someone has indeed borrowed this name?
Since the top of the thread VIDEO AKTIV was cited, it seems to me this clarification, but important. Sonst wär's mir wurscht.
Hans Ernst
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