Frage von cyborn:
Hello,
I'm fairly new here and have found that right here Freaks agents.
Therefore, I think that this is the right place for my question would be.
After careful consideration, I would like to give me a HDV Cam buy, because the future belongs to HDV and I'm not on the old horse wants to sit DV. I have now some time researched and found that 2 units of Sonyfür my question would be:
SonyHDR-HC1E
or
SonyHDR-SR1E
I have compared the synonymous data in the database listed here accurately studied and according to my discretion, found that between the two models do not differ too much.
Well, what I would like to do with the cam:
Of course a couple of amateur films, but some synonymous concerts / festivals of our bands (Music) film and make it online. (Marketing)
Moreover, I would like on the Cam motorcycle mount, when we are on tour.
The major differences for me, both cams are:
The HC1 is the interpolated images, the images SR1 makes loud Sonyprogessiv.
The HC1 has a tape drive, the SR1 has a hard drive.
HC1 has a "better" closure time 10,000
But otherwise I could not see any serious differences.
Since the SR1 progressive works, is expected here any more cinema effect to be seen. Couch because I was right or wrong? That would be for our music is very important.
The HC1 has a tape drive. I think that this auzeichnet better when I cam to take a motorbike. The hard drive should probably have dropouts.
Moreover, I think that it is for longer shots to be very time when the first hard drive on the SR1 must copy the calculator, so you can continue filming. I best mode, the recording time just 4 hours. At a festival, then we could for a time not filming until the data on the calculator are. Replacing the disk can be probably not.
Finally, it would be glad if the Cam slomo a function would have to at least 3 seconds possible. According to Sony Is that with the CMOS chip with all devices.
Ok, in the database of Slashcam I have a few other things such as manual control, Resolutionetc. found that for the HC1 speak.
Perhaps one of the freaks me a few tips. The nächsbesseren HDV cameras already cost 1000 or 1500 euros more. Since then very expensive. So I would one of the above two models favor.
I've noticed that here in the forums will be happy geschimpft. I ask for leniency, if some of my listed data are wrong. I'm still a rookie. But I am very happy to teach, if factually remains.
Thank you.
Antwort von ruessel:
The HC1 is an HDV to an SR1 AVCHD Camera ...... one is Mpeg2, Mpeg4 other ....
I just got the HC3 compared with the SR1, here are a few pictures like this:
http://www.fxsupport.de/11.html
Antwort von Jan:
Thanks for the proboscis Comparison!
What I noticed is, the HC 3 works with much higher contrast and strong coordinated colors (especially red), at least according to your test images, whether the good is you can argue. The sleep quality of light I find almost synonymous, at least equal to the 2 Picture, a little more contrast would increase the SR 1 but well done.
But there are even pictures (No. 30) to me when SR 1 is more convenient.
But with a motorcycle, I am not so sure this is a good choice. An SR 1 is almost invariably on the tripod and must be operated very sensitively. It may already be moving in the game, but we must proceed very smoothly, which have at least my first SR 1 films. On a tripod with quiet pans see the pictures in my opinion very good. I think HC 1 HC & 3 are not much better, maybe the trunk can still say something ...
VG
Jan
Antwort von ruessel:
Well, the SR1 has no option in camera menu to color, sharpness, etc. followed by. The HC3 was therefore in this comparison as s.Werk at the center position. Whether the SR1 + UX1 s.Werk somewhat weak contrast is set or the better for the MPG4 encoding is ..... I know it is simply not.
All three cameras have the same optics and the same CMOS chip, and it is likely the small difference does not lie.
Antwort von cyborn:
Ok,
I can already see that I am here with the right professionals landed bin.
First Thanks for the replies and vsfür great trouble, the homepage to create. I find this really very sharp!
I look at the pictures of your website compared. It is in this mode, blue, I believe that the SR1 performs much better. This should s.dem MPEG4 lie.
As you noted, you are apparently the two cameras are not just for action shooting. So for example, motorcycle or sledding ...
If the s.dem electronic Image Stabilization? Should there be an optical better?
You have not much choice in the HDV cameras, when it comes to about 1600 or 1700 ¬ go.
Would you still a hot tip? There must be no Sonysein yes. According to my research and reading of test reports, I am just in the Sonygelandet. Originally, I was look at the Canon XM2. But, no HDV. And so, each camera something that you can criticize it.
I know the eierlegende Wollmilchsau's not. That is always the case. But at least it would make sense, a good compromise to be found.
What do you generally because technology used to record both cameras: Verkfraftet the hard disk recording a ride with the motorcycle, or the film is empty? How is it with a cassette. Have your experiences since.
I have now again nachgeschaut. The Canon HV10 has approximately the same properties as the two Sony's and is priced slightly lower. Do you that this is a better Altervative for my purposes would be, since it has optical Image Stabilization?
Antwort von ruessel:
Make it not so complicated .... fetch you a HDV Camera of your choice, then you can just synonymous HDV DV Resolutionausgeben. This material, you can now edit synonymous (DV / HDV )....
Antwort von cyborn:
Hello,
Thanks for the answers.
I want to do is not complicated. If you 1400 euros, then it should be something acceptable.
Good, I got me your views HC1 archive. He times a great compliment. So many and detailed information can be found nowhere else. I did tonight then even dreamed of the HC1.
Again relating to: I just gings drum which is synonymous shots I can make the move. It is not so important, whether times a dauber or other in it. When motorcycling can not avoid this. Hence my question as to whether the optical image stabilizer would be better here. And if the hard drive here because quite exposed.
After I did all the contributions to the HC1 have read, this will probably be. Moreover, I have an English website to read it with the capacity of SR1 is not so great to be. play on hard drive takes quite a long time. Moreover, the data could be damaged. (Not when copying, but at the time of recording)
Since the MiniDV cassettes have been there a few years, this technology is mature. Since I now probably take the better HC1 and buy me a few years something that has proven so far. (ZD HD, BlueRay or other storage medium.)
Hat maybe one a tip or a warning, which tripod should you buy, or what not? I would therefor not synonymous much money to spend.
Again many thanks for the replies. This forum can I find super. As shall be subject to very helpful professionally.
Many greetings
Andy
Antwort von ruessel:
An optical stabilizer is always better, but it is usually beyond the 1400 Euro cameras (HD) installed. Get along with a wide-angle converter then opens it still synonymous with the Motoradfilmerei (HC1 or HC3 or Canon).
The hard drive in the SR1, I shoot with normal (fast pans in the air) is not persuaded to suspend during a skydiving film will surely give some problems.
A film from the SR1, you can currently (as of Oct. 2006) is not properly cut (HD ).... resolution or only with very high technical effort. For the older HDV system sees it better, there are already various editing software.
Antwort von cyborn:
Well, we must now HC1 ago. The wide-angle converter, I will still synonymous arrange as soon as I had to know what I can.
Thank you for your effort.
Antwort von Jan:
No. of Digital Image Stabilization SonySR of 1 has been working well - as of Sonygewohnt, but faster movements are simply not there, unless you can with the bucking / picture bugs.
The compression or codec is simply not ready, when the Picture Motion DV equally represent the concerns synonymous other models ala FX 1st I think it will be better in the professional sector such as with a Varicam with high data rate, although some material of channels shown synonymous astrein is not so.
I know not with what the Football League will be rotated on HD equipment is synonymous with rapid movements of a "smearing" to recognize. Is it synonymous not significantly, by changing the TV's vanish, even though I am extremely satisfied with Philips was:
SR 1 synonymous one reason why Peter Bruno one of the company has at home.
VG
Jan
Antwort von cyborn:
Oh dear,
that is so difficult, I would have never imagined.
I think that you just with a few compromises must live. Therefore I now stay in the HC1.
Except someone still has the eierlegende Wollmilchsau sleeve:)
Antwort von Markus:
Hat maybe one a tip or a warning, which tripod should you buy, or what not? I would therefor not synonymous much money to spend. How much money is because "a lot of money? - Should there be a consumer or a professional stand be?
Antwort von cyborn:
I yesterday spoke with a specialist. It has meant that the Tripods for 60 euros only be scrap.
He has sent me a tripod for about 200 euros of Manfrotto recommended. That would have a fairly good cushioning inside. Well, once again 200 euros more to spend. That's pretty slow in the Money.
Antwort von Jan:
Yes s.dem Velbon DV until 7000 to get a video appealing for a Consumer Tripod camera.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Markus:
Velbon DV 7000th ... .. The manufacturer of that tripod should slow times but wonder why the sales in Germany has increased so much? ;-)
Antwort von Jan:
Yes in the consumer class is what is already good.
But yesterday I had fortunately Manfrotto Tripod 525, head 501 and Remote Control 523 Pro in my claws, however, the DV 7000 scrap.
Yes decides holding the purse ....
For around 100 ¬ DV 7000 is but a Kauftip.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Butch:
Had there still synonymous ne question Bzgl times the sound quality when recording of concerts with the SonyHDR-SR1E.
Since I have total beginners, I'm at the first concert the same mistake and not the microphone level to low asked. Result: Everything totally distorted. So later in the rehearsal room at low level and made up. Was a lot better, but still I had a slight over-and it's been so consulted, as if the sound level camera at the airport up and down controls.
Are there any setting to correct this problem?
