Frage von Chrom:
Hi Forianer, My wife wants to be like a camcorder growth and therefore I am so in the last days zunehmenst.
So the absolute limit of your pain is
650 ¬.
Do so in terms of product analysis and rumgestöbert hab 2 CAM `s found the promise:
SonyHDR SR-10 http://www.pixmania.com/de/de/1061003/art/sony/hd-camcorder-hdr-sr10.html?srcid=26&Partenaire=idealo&CodePromo=oui JVC HD-3-EX
http://jdl.jvc-europe.com/product.php?id=GZ-HD3EX&catid=100137 I am already synonymous with Saturn's advice. I am therefore synonymous to HD Cam `s arrived, although we do not have LCD TV. But you must synonymous s.die future, because you certainly synonymous times an LCD TV will bring.
The cam should be synonymous not much less than these two have, except perhaps HD because I have read the HD Cam `s worse DV recording, but I found no DV Cam synonymous to good pictures and making movies. All in all, one should verwacklungsfreie, colorful movies in good quality so that can make. I already have on the Sonyverschieden something worse read test reports about the quality in rooms are a bit darker
On the JVC, I am nothing more known.
Now my questions: 1st Is the quality of DV recorded with an HD device much worse than a normal DV camcorder as I on my PAL device can play HD movies
2nd, my wife wants to shoot so images synonymous to synonymous times will be printed 10x13 is synonymous with these cams feasible
Does the 3rd your Sonydurch the quality of your many options in color but only a CMOS sensor with the 3 CCD JVC keep the can or what is the difference noticeable?
4th Is it really so difficult to film in ACHDV format to edit?
5th What Meineung did you? Which would you you (apart from the price (ca.620 ¬)) to decide. Where do you see advantages / disadvantages?
Gladly, I had other recommendations synonymous Cam `s in the price segment, or experience one of the reports on both Cam` s
I look forward to any reply.
MFG Chrome
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
because the SR 10 (Video Active Camcorderinfo.com) pretty much anywhere yet been tested, I can only speak my initial impression.
Lowlighttechnisch almost all cameras of the weak class, except for Canon HF 10 & 100th But is relatively weak, for which a user is the Picture too dark and too noisy, another user said it is still ...
After my impression is the SR 10 almost to the level of SR 11 & 12, because the sensor of the SR 10 is smaller, but synonymous less Resolutionbeherbergt (pixels - noise ratio). But you can not s.LCD Comparison of the Camera, since the SR 10 LCD to classes is worse than the of the SR 11 & 12
The HD 3 has a big advantage, they may have a related HDV stream output (1440 CBR) of the SW some programs will be approved. Thus, it is significantly easier than editing the DV with the Sony AVCHD material. The JVC can not directly übrigends DV record - they can spend it. In Sonyklappt direct or played on PAL Recording.
The higher quality housing, the standard microphone input, the normal accessory shoe speak for the JVC, and the stabilizer rather Tonfraktion for Sony. The large hard drive the JVC relaviert then again, since the Sonyden space-saving MPEG-4 uses the JVC MPEG-2 transport streams.
In the sharpness of the SR 10 is better in color probably the JVC, this is the way with 3 CCD with little resolution. Since we are already synonymous with the Still Image, JVC has just as good 10x15 expression - even though it already rumgerechnet as synonymous, a sensor has good times only 500k pixels.
But I have to say that almost no amateur filmmakers a difference between the models will see, except he makes a direct comparison to a good level. It is because of many sharp shot.
Look at times in the Comparison Video Active (synonymous test pictures) to:
http://www.videoaktiv.de/... (HDR-SR11E vs.. HD3E GZ) ... The höherklassige SR 11, just one point more erhaschen ".
A statement on the Machinability of AVCHD, you can not submit because it is again the question is how far the user's system ausreizt. Some users would like to cut the material with the original work, a fast real-time preview, a large number of effects on the film set, another user only trims and burn to a disc.
The Sony buyer, but has a small advantage.
Sonymöchte at the moment with all the means at the Canon HD consumer market will not voluntarily leave and give away a Sony Vegas 8 program (which for 500 ¬) s.ausgewählte Stores, synonymous with my Saturn.
Normally, each customer that SonyHD SW, on the Internet should make it look as bad.
At the moment, just a Canon HF 100 Run underway - synonymous Thanks ¬ 100 Cash Back. Also a very good reason for test reports of Slashcam, Camcorderinfo.com, video Forum and Video Active. The magazine provides video, but since the SonySR 11 before.
In HD's initial price as nothing much better, the HDV SonyHC 5 for 499 ¬ (for Saturn) are not counted.
VG
Jan
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Antwort von Chrom:
Thank you for the extensive explanation!
So after all the arguments I think the benefit to the Sony version is better because the colors so as synonymous only in direct comparison to be clear! Since then, I told you more value at better writer `s Image
But 3CCD sensors are only directly responsible for better colors or synonymous directly for the whole Quallität?
Movies cut synonymous with effects but I would like to work. But what it called AVCHD is harder to work? I had the program Pinnacle 11 in the eye? Is that possible with this program to work? My Calculator is synonymous only new so I think the resources are there and I would if it's like synonymous with the original material to work, so the recorded film in the same quality crop hissing and with effects and then equip hire via HDMI transmission preludes or burn.
Dan, I question whether it is very important to work with Viewfinder? I think it will go without synonymous but many "experienced" have me a Kammera with Viewfinder recommended! Now I hätt synonymous here like some advice whether with or without Viewfinder?
Because the question whether the good DV Cams synonymous recordings make:
The main thing to me is that I synonymous but the films in the best possible quality on my Pal TV or watch the movies on regular dvd can burn!
I have the device anyway times in the hand before I decide!
But still would be nice if I commented to acquire additional concerns.
LG chromium
Antwort von Jan:
Thank you for the extensive explanation!
So after all the arguments I think the benefit to the Sony version is better because the colors so as synonymous only in direct comparison to be clear! Since then, I told you more value at better writer `s Image
But 3CCD sensors are only directly responsible for better colors or synonymous directly for the whole Quallität? Chipper is a 3 at the same sensor size superior (Lowlight, sharpness (the term but you have to first define) etc)), this is not the case here, however, the JVC very small 1 / 5 "CCDs owns. The HD 3 is synonymous with an older (less powerful) technology as the brand new Sony (Processor & Sensor).
In terms of sharpness, the Sonydavor is why I had already explained. The color of a 3 Chipper but is almost always better, you have much finer shades, the color and its luminosity increases.
It is not like a 1 chip camera by the processor until the colors "calculated" with the help of the respective matrix filters - according WoWu cost about 30%.
Movies cut synonymous with effects but I would like to work. But what it called AVCHD is harder to work? I had the program Pinnacle 11 in the eye? Is that possible with this program to work? My Calculator is synonymous only new so I think the resources are there and I would if it's like synonymous with the original material to work, so the recorded film in the same quality crop hissing and with effects and then equip hire via HDMI transmission preludes or burn. Please read - I had the answer - at least my impression. You will never be the subject of a clear answer, as the AVCHD editing is currently the hottest topic is - 50% to 50% Beführworter opponents. There are the forums for the Pinnacle Group AVCHD and contrary.
Dan, I question whether it is very important to work with Viewfinder? I think it will go without synonymous but many "experienced" have me a Kammera with Viewfinder recommended! Now I hätt synonymous here like some advice whether with or without Viewfinder?. Viewfinder both models have not, this is again a question that only one can decide for themselves. A professional needs necessarily viewfinders, it is not so mini Consumer 120,000 pixel color. The biggest companies have settled in the price class against a Viewfinder pronounced, because the great majority of customers never had viewfinders in operation. The LCD displays are better, but - if the light is more of the rear or side of the film einschaut.
Because the question whether the good DV Cams synonymous recordings make:
The main thing to me is that I synonymous but the films in the best possible quality on my Pal TV or watch the movies on regular dvd can burn!
Worse than middle PAL cameras, they are not as many cameras the full PAL resolution after deduction of all parameters did not create.
I have the device anyway times in the hand before I decide!
This is with the most important thing!
VG
Jan
Antwort von rudi:
I sit straight s.SR-10 Test and would just like to add that all current Sony do not permit the exposure time manual set, which I personally quite annoying.
Otherwise cover is pretty much my experience with exactly Jans postings ...
Many greetings
Rudi
Antwort von Jan:
Thank you Rudi - somehow, the link does not work ......
Well that would be nice if Slashcam the first test of SR 10 would be present. I was such a feeling that many magazines will move the test to not "swim" approach. The SR 10 has been with me in March! delivered.
Or has a name like Online Magazine or purchase the video magazine SR 10 already tested? For video, she was active (I think) in the edition released today are not synonymous.
VG
Jan
Antwort von rudi:
Hi Jan,
the article should go online tomorrow ...
Many greetings
Rudi
Antwort von motiongroup:
The issue is primarily whether the creativity and the filming of cutting oneself, or whether one is more likely resides with the conversion into a usable proxy materials.
So there is no JVC shall be synonymous for whatever reason always better to stick Mpeg2 based versions ... the difference between the two technologies in the visible area is so marginal that the resource hunger of the opposite is not calculated.
I can only say that I with my JVC HD'm fully satisfied, especially in color and synonymous with the Oton of Mics.
The complained about OIS and LOWlightfähigkeiten are not poodle of the core understanding much more of a question ..
mfg
