Frage von Dirke:
Good evening, ladies Slashcam community!
The issue I have camcorder was more than strange and my knowledge in this area is equal to zero. Since I like to cook and am a musician, I would like to Podcasts for cooking with friends and create music videos for tape and shoot their own music projects.
The area should be primarily in the indoor range. Hab mir mal models, which the media giant will be offered views. I have tried several models, they only have the picture of me not promised. These were in the price range around 200 - 500 ¬. Surely I do not synonymous to the time the models to test, but my first feeling was a little sobering.
Now I hover the SonyHDR SR 12 or the Canon HF 10. As I have read in the forum, these are the camcorder, right in front of the expensive parts in the assessment above, are quite far from the budget and would fit her. Are these models in this price class, the non plus ultra or is there perhaps older models, which in some ways are better? What is important to me, is an easy handling and of course a good picture quality.
I have a few microphones, which I like, in conjunction with the camcorder would use. These are primarily the Grossmembranmic Audio Technica AT 4040 and the 991st MXL Kleinmembranmic Since the Sonyand Canon only has a mini-jack has, I would have a Micpreamp Mics (RME Quadmic) with a mini XLR jack into the Camera source here. In the outdoor area, I would at the Rode Video Mic back. I assume that the sound of the internal Mics of the camcorder is not as good. Liege ich da falsch?
My PC is an AMD X2 Dual Core 3800 with 3 gigs of RAM. Is enough disk space available. I think that with the current PC in the green area should lie.
In software, I would use Adobe Premiere 7.0.
What should I have to purchase the camcorder still observed and which accessories to facilitate or enhance the work with camcorders (theme lighting, etc.). Which Book it to any beginner can heartily recommend? My total budget is ¬ 1500.
I would be for each tip link and grateful.
Furthermore, I will be better to introduce issues for Beginners read here in the forum. ;-)
Cheers and a nice evening
Dirk
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
As often discussed, I would not buy 10 HF, because a good 100 ¬ cheaper HF 100 (RF 10 without memory and 16 GB in silver instead of black) to think smarter. For about 100 ¬ you get 2-4x 16 GB of memory. In all other score, the two identical cameras.
If you have not look at the money, then the current 11 RF wiser. With it you get a better motion representation (higher data rate of 24 Mbit / sec), a better menu will display, an internal memory of 32 GB, and the supplied software now supports Blu Ray creation.
SonySR 12 may be synonymous to buy if you are not necessarily a 120 GB hard drive will need, then it makes the otherwise identical synonymous SR 11.
For hard drive can be synonymous Gefallen the new Canon HG 20 and 21 take both synonymous with high data rates, HG 21 with viewfinders and larger hard drive, both are brilliant in the recent tests are truncated. For the two is now synonymous DV editing in the camera possible, what has not worked for Canon. In the previous HG 10 declined on the memory card is synonymous only place photos, now you have the freedom to choose when HG 20 & 21, MiniSD card and no more - but a SD or SDHC card.
At Canon, which has improved rather than worse - as I think.
With None of the six models to do what's wrong.
JVC synonymous, but you should not underestimate, with the HD 30 & 40 is JVC succeeded in throwing the big, especially if you have a favorite video are.
The above Canon and Sony models have a separate accessory shoe, you have you have a power to arrange the microphones on the cameras to be placed. The JVC is different.
With exposure to the Sony's is not much, because they do not have manual shutter, only HDV Model HC 9th For Canon & JVC no problem.
Aperture goes on all models, although with such a mix Sonysynonymous (Aperture & Gain) is. Manual Tonausteuerung have all of the Canon models and the JVCs, although the JVC Tonaussteuerung with their small control area rather than to estimate is poor.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Dirke:
Thank you for the info, Jan. :-)
Thus one can already begin what.
For more information, I give ne virtual portion of penne with eggplant. And a lot of extra parmesan ...;-)
Antwort von domain:
This is too little. Since you have already rather with truffled Fasenbrust and a bottle of Brunello rausrücken :-))
Antwort von Jan:
Although domain, you'd probably Dirk HD 30 & 40 suggest ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von Dirke:
My dear people.
Now I have the whole day in the Net read and am still confused. ;-)
But I tend more and more to SonyHDR SR 11th What do I want with its 120 gig hard drive? 60 rich synonymous.
You schwächelt however, according to the scoring in the forum in the wide area. Would it not make sense to the SonyVCL-HG0737C wide angle lens to buy?
And this vexing issue of exposure, with which I feel absolutely overwhelmed. :-)
What I take from Lighting of premises let's say 20 to 50 square meters?
The first is the kitchen. It includes 2 halogen lamps with 20 watts each and in the corner is still a state with its energy-saving light bulb of 24 watts. Can I as synonymous to the Sony-owned products, such as the HVL HFL1 back?
This Sony Tripod VCT-80AV and I should be happy, right? :-)
A question remains, if it is synonymous certainly not the last one will be.
What does the evaluation of Sonyder - Dot incapacitated the owner?
Otherwise I would have a beautiful evening, listening along with Oasis Falling Down and remain at a supper with spaghetti and its Lammhack, tomato Feigensoße. And, much Parmesan! :-)
Cheers
Dirk
Antwort von Jan:
So a Sony friend.
The SR 11 I had always been recommended that the 120 GB hard drive of SR 12 just a few users.
Since you probably wants a good sound, is not entirely clear to me now why the SR 11 to the election, because the camera does not even Tonaussteuerung has a manual - only 2 level settings (high + low).
The Canon and JVC products have a function to each Tonfreund helps, so that the camera in auto quiet passages are not wild "appearance" or in other situations, the level is not too quiet.
If the microphones on the camera should go once synonymous nothing, because the Sony shoe is smaller, so must the famous AIS adapter ago.
Ok, Canon is with her mini shoe synonymous not better.
Yes the problem is even, we must use Sony accessories (except one has the AIS adapter).
HFL 1 is not cheap, are not required to flash synonymous too expensive - then dear HL 1st Your 3 watts of light output but rather a joke.
The SonyHVL 10 nH with 10 watts would have been wiser, especially for poor-lit indoor shots. The kitchen should be recorded as it sounds synonymous already be curious without light (with Normal +
Amateur claims).
The Wide Angleist with many AVCHD camcorders very modest, a converter is recommended because, as the Broached or the models of Raynox.
VG
Jan
Antwort von stepa:
So I've synonymous to SonySR11.
For me the best Cam, which is currently available for under 1000, - euro, but up to a crucial point.
Although it is a super zoom Micro is available, as well as 5.1 sound, but what benefit these wonderful things when behind the sound is really crap?
One or more of a hobby Spleen of me, my travels in the departure of the aircraft to film. With my Panasonic 75 then so and so (now no longer knows exactly how the name was), so no HD Cam, was the start of the engines and aufheulen very accurately and without bias played. Then followed div test div with the new HD camcorders and all distorted generation, since the SR11 makes no difference. Now I borrow for a short trip Mallorca times and the Canon HF10 from a Panasonic SD100. Score: Sound at the Canon slightly better than the SonySR11, since there may be less under control. The Panasonic was the sound good, but the image quality comparable with a cheap "not" HD Cam.
Seen in the Canon would be controlled by the sound, but better. However, the yes and no viewfinders so I would stick to my Sony. Blöd halt is synonymous, for example recordings of live music making, and I in the spring in my Florida trip, should be very far away the speakers of filming, otherwise everything becomes distorted. The Zoom Micro, in my time Panasonic is an absolute highlight, brings s.der SonySR11 actually almost nothing.
I have the knowledge that all Manufacturer s.den customers develop over. It is absolutely sad to see so synonymous and that the Manufacturer totally no preference seems to be.
A Panasonic SD100 with the picture quality of a Canon HF10 or SonySR11 that would be my wish for the future.
Antwort von domain:
Although domain, you'd probably Dirk HD 30 & 40 suggest ....
I would generally recommend nothing. Basically means, however, that there may be some exceptions such as the Canon, Panasonic and Sony-brand fanatics something to annoy.
And I would never synonymous user in a forum to hear their views on an upcoming purchase ask again because basically everyone recommends the Camera, which he himself has already purchased and thus synonymous already captured some wonderful experiences has.
In my case, however, there was no alternative, which is always a very nice case.
My HC1, as a second camera next to the FX1 was missing and I like being only in mpeg2 and edit in full HD and with liquid, which is required for AVCHD no longer maintained.
So a clear case for full-HD in mpeg2 and without tape.
What later undoubtedly will have on me, I am currently little itches.
With me is not the way the goal but the goal is the goal and are comfortably cut current videos and not months-long search and testing of permanent new video on the sector, while the raw material years before ever gammelt and to cut waits.
Antwort von Dirke:
So a Sony friend.
The SR 11 I had always been recommended that the 120 GB hard drive of SR 12 just a few users.
Since you probably wants a good sound, is not entirely clear to me now why the SR 11 to the election, because the camera does not even Tonaussteuerung has a manual - only 2 level settings (high + low).
The Canon and JVC products have a function to each Tonfreund helps, so that the camera in auto quiet passages are not wild "appearance" or in other situations, the level is not too quiet.
If the microphones on the camera should go once synonymous nothing, because the Sony shoe is smaller, so must the famous AIS adapter ago.
Ok, Canon is with her mini shoe synonymous not better.
Yes the problem is even, we must use Sony accessories (except one has the AIS adapter).
HFL 1 is not cheap, are not required to flash synonymous too expensive - then dear HL 1st Your 3 watts of light output but rather a joke.
The SonyHVL 10 nH with 10 watts would have been wiser, especially for poor-lit indoor shots. The kitchen should be recorded as it sounds synonymous already be curious without light (with Normal +
Amateur claims).
The Wide Angleist with many AVCHD camcorders very modest, a converter is recommended because, as the Broached or the models of Raynox.
VG
Jan First, many thanks for the important tips, Jan. :-)
The next help me immensely.
For me it is not really crucial what multimedia giants I support. I want a good price / performance ratio. And this seems to me at 11 the SR.
Sound issue. For me, first and foremost the importance of indoor reception.
I had it to me as presented. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I assume the AT 4040, mount it on a K + M and go from Tripod Mic in Micpreamp. In Micpreamp do I enable the low-cut filter, the signal level and go with an XLR jack s.Mini-out in the SonyCam. When I took the signal, I can in retrospect in the audio sequencer with de-esser, EQ, compressor and other plug-ins Cleanup, to change it with the video file to cut. Should it go, right?
Because of the wide angle. Let the Raynox HD-7000PRO. Net costs around 140 ¬ with the corresponding adapter ring. What are the qualitative differences to Sonyand I need SonyWide Angleauch with an adapter ring?
Again many thanks for the response.
Cheers
Dirk
Antwort von Jan:
I'm not Tonprofi and synonymous kenn not listed all of your devices & Programs. Under a Micpreamp understand I Mikrovorverstärker, but not completely freely adjustable unit level, possibly because there are different models. The chosen will probably Micpreamp with the phantom power to be made.
I've not yet worked with Micpreamp, funny this is only the ninth mentioned, a connection for already ¬ p.30. Maybe there are problems, but that is the question for a Tonprofi.
Professional accessories (the models for 500 ¬) is associated with less really more of a camera in this class.
I almost always controlled stop with the camera from where other devices could lead to complications. Except for some wireless microphones do I control is not in the camera, but in a separate unit.
Raynox, I know, I did not use that comes to stay at "My Camera" is included in the WW (DSR PD 170). Raynox often has multiple removable disks are threaded on their page in Japan is expected to find information quickly.
VG
Jan
