Frage von Ambitionierter:
Hello
I wanted you a topic for discussion:
Which camcorder is better, the SonyTRV 900, which is used for about the same price, as the Panasonic NV-GS500 new.
800, - until 1200, --
I've already collected a few details about the Panasonic I've seen times in the store and the looks, like a child's toy from China.
LCD in mobile phone size, light as a feather and a thin plastic casing.
If the falls again, that's it I think.
When the Sonyscheint yet to be different from metal casing and buttons and controls, so not everything from the menu needs to be controlled.
Both are capable of 16:9, both as synonymous. Both have a hinged
Viewfinder.
Photo synonymous function have both, but the TRV 900 has only 0.3 megapixels.
The NV-GS500 on the other hand, 3.95 megapixels.
The sound is in the TRV 900 very good, but only when built Micro (filters).
The picture features white yarn I had not much of Sony Should Lowlightbereich not as good of sharpness ago (pumping the autofocus), but has manual time setting, and thus a brighter
Picture synonymous if only 25 frames per second.
The Panasonic has a very small lamp and built a "NightShot"
Function in Color, (synonymous what ever that is)
In the transfer to the PC firewall, both IN / OUT, but the Sonyhat synonymous Analog IN / OUT.
Times I would be interested in what it means for weitre information about the devices exist,
particularly in terms of image quality and the sound is concerned, perhaps synonymous what about the viewfinders of the Panasonic ...
Antwort von chaos_total:
I can not compare cameras now, because the Panasonic only know by sight, but would like to say that the sound at the Sony via external Micro astrein was always so, as with an asymmetrical signal is only possible. Jacks for all devices are susceptible to baggy, because the two are not big differ.
If I had the choice, I will always for the larger and more stable camcorder decide.
Liebe Grüße, chaos
Antwort von beiti:
As far as I know, the chip Resolutiondes TRV 900 for a full 16:9-Picture (similar to VX2100 Canon XM2 etv.). If you put value to 16:9, the cameras of the above only the Panasonic in question. In all other respects (vsmanuelle handling) I would however prefer TVR 900.
Antwort von xAndreas84x:
As far as I know, the chip Resolutiondes TRV 900 for a full 16:9-Picture (similar to VX2100 Canon XM2 etv.). If you put value to 16:9, the cameras of the above only the Panasonic in question. In all other respects (vsmanuelle handling) I would however prefer TVR 900. I almost can not imagine the trv900
not full 16:9 (like. my PC100) makes!
gruß cj
Antwort von HeikoS:
I did. For their time, there was simply no 16:9 chip. First it was the successor.
Antwort von xAndreas84x:
I almost can not imagine the trv900
16:9 can not fully my TRV 900 can not.
Gruss
ph
Antwort von xAndreas84x:
PS
http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/
ph
Antwort von xAndreas84x:
best thanks for the info!
what is with the successor model trv950?
why one hears so little of the (positive),
it is qualitatively worse than the trv900?
gruß cj
Antwort von HeikoS:
So is what the second-hand prices for the 900 so synonymous had remained so high.
950 has smaller chips (more noise, less depth blur), aperture values are NO out (only one bar, which seamlessly transferred to the reinforcement), no magnesium but as a cheap plastic casing. So the biggest criticisms. This can be with her surf the internet or so ...
Antwort von Mike.:
So much for the NightShot: Most scheiß .... The brings garnix: The picture is totally inert, lights draw streak behind them ... you kanst forget to filming. And in the darkness, you can forget Panasonic camcorder synonymous, because of the noisy Picture. Except for the "real", without loss of pixels 16:9 has 500s of Pana no benefits.
Antwort von Markus:
When the Sonyscheint yet to be different from metal casing ... I had the same but came to see. - Fact! The TRV900 has a metal case! I was in all the years never noticed ... ;-)
Antwort von xAndreas84x:
Hello Friends Video
Do not know any of their DCR-TRV 900 voluntarily made. There was in the follow-up period except for the VX-IBERAL hardly better. My running since 1998 without problems. Have you ever cleaned, on the occasion, she was synonymous-optimized since someone had cracked the code and with the service remote control could all be adjusted.
So very good pictures - hence the high second hand price.
16: 9 can not be without loss of resolution and the photo function is only to cover enough photos.
Important to many features is a quick access possible and the steady - Shot works best (optical)
Günther
Antwort von HeikoS:
on the occasion, she was synonymous-optimized since someone had cracked the code and with the service remote control could all be adjusted.
Günther That interests me! Can you please describe what has been optimized, and where you could be?
Gruß,
Heiko
Antwort von Nachtelfe:
Hello Heiko
The Optimization of the DRV-900 TCR was of the firm video Elektronic Service in 21337 Lüneburg Kastanienallee 2 Implemented.
Günther
Antwort von HeikoS:
Thank you!
But what has been optimized? I assume that as the Auflagemaß set?
VG,
Heiko
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Probably it's the same adjustments in the American Service-Manual of the TRV900 are listed:
www.bealecorner.com/trv900/service.html
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von HeikoS:
Mhh, would be a shame if it were. Had hoped that the bad white balance and the AGC problem in the A / D stage of the video inputs to be able to resolve.
Antwort von Ambitionierter:
@ beiti
A pity that with the 16:9, but there are actually garkeinen Consumer 3Chiper of Sony, for 16:9, if the VX2100 is not synonymous Picture creates true 16:9?
The Television today is unfortunately all only 16:9, but not synonymous, they have more space, but only a different form.
From the picture quality rather worse than tube devices.
I could gladly renounce to 16:9, but the industry deserves s.jeden new standard and he would still be so foolish.
The only meaningful change is HDTV, which is as far as I know, many inconsistencies are synonymous.
But if you want to buy a new TV should the format then plays inevitably have a role - there are really no 3CCD for 16:9 of Sony?
Antwort von beiti:
there are really no 3CCD for 16:9 of Sony? Apparently Sonyentschieden that the construction of a 16:9-device in the upper-class DV after Introduction of HDV no longer worthwhile. Who wants to film in 16:9, will be an FX1 and FX7 growth - if they are synonymous only heruntergeschaltet in DV mode is used. A compact HDV model with manual operation (compared with the TRV 900) are currently in the Sony range.
If I use a 16:9-compact camcorder with manual intervention many ways, would I still wait to see how good is the Canon HV20.
Antwort von Cinemator:
I have a Pana GS500. The scary part is cheap and plastikmäßig. Certainly not the most robust camera, but what I am not at my own expense wish to test. However, the true values in the interior and stuck in the cinematic results - measured s.price. The optical image stabilizer. is super. The zoom incredibly good and very smooth. The handling quite easy. This Night and marketing feature is only for people who want to fall for such a thing.
Antwort von Jan:
Hi,
Panasonic GS 500 thread there should be more than enough here give.
The metal with which is now often a promotional event. Aluminum is synonymous metal .... And a technician will you say "metal is the next shock to the inside, plastic breaks - metal is not always better for a fall be. Yes, the danger that something wegbricht, plastic is higher.
Well, the GS 500 is already Consumerlike up the technology fits inside but, for me it has no major weaknesses. Yes the Viewfinder is upwards, Tonaussteuerung manual is available, unfortunately, no headphone jack (as you can but what tinkering).
Picture is good, stabilizer synonymous. The AF is pumping for my feelings only in very difficult situations, that was when Henkelmann Canon DM XM 2 at me a lot worse. Also, the exposure was in the automatic fine.
The Lowlightqualität a VX / PD or TRV high GS 500 can not reach.
Well, unfortunately, can be obtained from Panasonic GS 500 (as with all Pana Consumer) does not completely separate the shutter, the aperture and gain change. It is only the shutter and a combination of Aperture and Gain. So we must open s.Aperture change Gain & Gain away and we must change the Aperture.
GS 500, I rarely let down, the question now should be "Should I have about ¬ 800 for a 576i PAL Camera spend?" If it s.800 ¬ HDV models like the Canon HV 20 / 30 (SonyHC 9 is still a little expensive), which may be synonymous 576 PAL but synonymous with high and have a 16 / 9 sensor as opposed to the 576i PAL cameras (almost all 4:3 - JVC GR PD 1 is like an exception than mongrel).
With a Henkelmann can the GS 500 but not synonymous compare, for their modest appearance, it is already a friend - the inner values that.
I know 2 Film Canon XL 1 and Panasonic GS 500 with concert recordings side by side had s.Anfang smiled, and then honestly admitted that the GS 500, the better & newer automatics had for the situation (no extreme pumps with blue and red, no over-exposure etc). So when Automatikfilmern the GS 500 has good cards.
TRV 900 is undisputed, however, was significantly higher synonymous ....
GS 500 vs. HV 20 gabs here too often.
VG
Jan
Antwort von tobesdop:
If I had the choice I would always draw back to 900 - had time a Pana GS 200 and was totally dissatisfied. Each new camcorder had with my TRV 900 can be measured - None came synonymous only rudimentary s.sie up.
Even the possibilities of my (current) FX 7 are - apart from the higher-resolution picture - rather modest 900 against ...
Antwort von HeikoS:
Especially since the drive is indestructible. Mine is now almost 10 years old and was often used. In the time I had only 2x the wear parts to replace. The drum itself is still not worn out either dropouts in the recording, playback or even 9 years old LP recordings ...
If I had the choice I would always draw back to 900 - had time a Pana GS 200 and was totally dissatisfied. Each new camcorder had with my TRV 900 can be measured - None came synonymous only rudimentary s.sie up.
Even the possibilities of my (current) FX 7 are - apart from the higher-resolution picture - rather modest 900 against ...
Antwort von tobesdop:
Hello from Hochrein
My runs synonymous already page 98 without any problems. For the next above optimization only so much, it can stray into the production of factory settings should be improved. So color, warmer or cooler, etc. There was a rumor that is not aware of these values have been set optimally to the distance to the "professionals," to keep.
Details in, camcorder v & Co, Issue 85 - April 2000 WERS can still obtain.
Bodo
PS the above workshop Hilt synonymous with the owner of the TRV 890 which is posted in the forum.
Antwort von jason:
I think the owner of a Pana change their "work unit" more ...
If you have a TRV 900 grab could probably keep for a lifetime - why are synonymous so hard to get - and if so, then not to Catapult price because the owner usually knew what they s.dem sweetie and had the Parts have accordingly maintained.
Antwort von MACerle:
I think the owner of a Pana change their "work unit" more ...
If you have a TRV 900 grab could probably keep for a lifetime - why are synonymous so hard to get - and if so, then not to Catapult price because the owner usually knew what they s.dem sweetie and had the Parts have accordingly maintained. Well, a lifetime is probably somewhat exaggerated. But my TRV900, I have been synonymous since 2000 and I would not up your order. What makes this camera has everything already joined, and it still runs like clockwork. Once I left it general overhaul and re-adjust. That was after 6 years of regular use. And one thing is certain: Even if the industry for the storm blows on HDV, DV format is still some years, since it is a proven and in the Handhabeung (cut) a secure format. Anyway, my 900 still provide long service.
