Newsmeldung von slashCAM: Test: SonyXDCAM PMW-EX1 - of pre rudi - 4 oct 2007 17:57:00
Many filmmakers are waiting eagerly to the first estimates to Sony XDCAM professional Flash PMW-EX1. Finally, this model Panasonics HVX-200 in the barriers are. We had the possibility of a first pre XDCAM EX Sonyfür of 48 hours under the microscope to take and can now consider what the buyers of tomorrow can expect ...
Antwort von joecast:
which reads quite nicely ....
under the motto: totgeglaubte live longer
gruß cj
Antwort von aroma:
Thanks for the interesting test.
Some questions I would have as yet:
What about faster pans out, or fast moving objects?
Is there, as with HDV in general, artifacts and / or scum?
As reflected in the XDCAM EX codec used against the AVC-Intra codec of this Panasonic?
What does it with a slow motion at reduced Resolutionaus? Some Sony cameras from the consumer and prosumer class to offer something (Smooth Slow Record 200i/sek at very low resolution) Is the XDCAM EX synonymous something?
Thank you in advance and many greetings
Antwort von Feit:
Even now it should be clear that this one-box wirtschschaftlicher-flop will be. With fair and right, the user can expect that the tremendous production benefits by saving on maps in an appreciable extent s.die buyer in the form of an equitable price will be circulated.
It remains the hope that the market will make this adjustment. -A gun as presented should be easy and relaxed for half of that and actually unspeakable price of the merchants offered. Even then the profit margins are still very, very significant and even more in the vicinity of a decent pricing commercial move.
Antwort von kyromoto:
For whom should the system because of the SxS storage to be a flop? About the Manufacturer?
But what the consumer is concerned, he never necessarily to buy.
It is true even 20 years ago people said that a DVD recorder is probably the most complicated device belongs, in a household can ever find. But the mass production of very precise and secure expensive tape drives is probably synonymous with the period with a relativization brought.
How much does it cost the VHS recorder actually last in the best case?
Antwort von ruessel:
Actually, I am of the Focus board a little disappointed, here I had this image in Sonywith chips s.Resolutionerwartet (+30%).
War because when the comparison with the Canon XHA1 the EX1 synonymous of the Optics forth in its optimum aperture? Could I imagine, since the Ex1 is so much light that was dimmed too much .....?
Antwort von xandix:
Hi,
So for me to see the sharpness of images seems as if the XHA1 interference already in the circle will appear (a sign of Kantenaufsteilung) while the EX1 is still good, but tend to be somewhat blurred.
As long as but not of both cameras, the aperture values will be published and the contrast (visual comparison) are not identical in both images, is the meaningfulness of this presentation very relative.
Because both (visual) contrast, as synonymous to Kantenaufsteilung affect human perception resolution.
Gruss
Antwort von deepcode:
It would be super great if its a two-time images of the possible depths (un) schärfe could post!
The best way for a ~ 50mm focal length equivalent (relative to 35mm) and the largest aperture (1.8?) :-)
So I feel the drum and see what the theatrical work in an area would be possible because you can not with greater telephoto settings rumtricksen.
Antwort von caren:
Cam is great!, Only for me in the mountains a bit difficult. Sherpa did not need everything yourself dragging.
I place the consumer Cam volgt as follows:
Take the FX7 (1 / 4 "3Chip), set (only) 14-16-times zoom on it, but with man. Zoom lever! Technique as Fujinon. And up to 16GB Memory Stick,
all under 1.5 kilograms with a large Battery and - price under 3,000 euros.
Would anything?
Robust because no tape drive or hard drive!
Yes, I think the shepherds of the XHA1 synonymous something better!
But ... what does the little excerpt from?
It should really be Aperture Time!
So the Lichtstän.bekannt would synonymous.
Did even the HV10 and the FX1 with the ISO 12233 test chart.
The sharpness of the HV10 is not better for this are far more chromatic aberration present - and the luminous intensity is saturated at 3 Apertures FX1 better! In the videos (each 2 already created) showed that the sharpness impression by the very small chromatic aberration looks better! Even the good Image Stabilization contributes some help! (I train at full speed with no tripod).
So, sharpness is not everything!
A test video recorded freehand, shows what the situation is.
Wait and see whether my desire is.
Antwort von K.-D. Schmidt:
How much does it cost the VHS recorder actually last in the best case?
59 ¬. Still seen at Aldi.
Greeting
KDS
Antwort von kyromoto:
I would be very interested to know whether the camera Timcode in-out has. Someone knows what to do so?
Antwort von rudi:
Hello dear community,
we really had the camera not even 48 hours, of which a day is a holiday fell, which is why we do not do all the tests were that we wanted. Therefore, the time was simply too short. Among other things, the camera was not true in our test lab, but is only in the editorial on our provisional test chart has been tested.
Nevertheless it is here already say with certainty that our pre-EX1 significantly sharper than for example the Z1 is that we see the similar figure for this in this this article ....
http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Test/ Canon XH-A1-.html
In our case it seems to me the Canon A1 Contour indoors a little more to have than the EX1, but of course this is all relative. So if we would begin, with a fixed aperture to draw comparisons would still not so meaningful, since each camera at another Aperture reached their optimum sharpness. We are such measurements anyway very critical. Who wants to know why, should please even read the following article:
http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Editorials/Sinn-and-Unsinn-of-Camcorders-Tests.html
In this sense, we wanted to with this article simply noted that the EX1 (if the series as good models synonymous losses) of the sharpness is quite good and in a league with the XH A1/G1 plays. Whether it is now one of the two +10 or - 15 line pairs more or less under certain circumstances, but which is actually quite a taster. In any case, she plays above the Z1 and definitely see above the edge of what is technically possible. More details will follow anyway in a second article in which synonymous test pictures are shown.
And unfortunately, the camera already synonymous since Thursday early next on their way through Germany, so we did not want more test shots can do.
However, we would like more detailed tests synonymous only with a production model, so that the work is worth synonymous.
Many greetings
Rudi
Antwort von rudi:
I would be very interested to know whether the camera Timcode in-out has. Someone knows what to do so? Can of course be that we have overlooked, because we now it is not particularly respected, but as far as I remember there was no TC-Out.
Rudi
Antwort von kyromoto:
That would be very unfortunate and stupid of Sony, but wait.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
With fair and right, the user can expect that the tremendous production benefits by saving on maps in an appreciable extent s.die buyer in the form of an equitable price will be circulated. This could perhaps be expected if the (no longer existent) drive, the only cost factor would be a camcorder. In the case of the PMW-EX1 is expected but only the Fujinon Wide with so little distortion cost more than the tape drive saved. So far, in any event, such lenses were already without dranhängenden camcorder easy times a lot more expensive than it is now all the EX1.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von robbie:
via HDSDI she sure tc - out;)
Antwort von Tino21:
Anyone who wants to see times Camera or test, which I can only
Antwort von TechPro:
Hello together,
Now I had the chance yesterday the camera once in the hand and to take closer look at ....
In short, they say, is synonymous her handling of a dream.
Visually a little look / like the Z1 and synonymous keyboard layout is similar.
Disadvantages There are some synonymous. For example, the camera in the base price does not have a battery charger in the strict sense but only through a transformer directly s.die Camera is connected. Even the relatively small battery is not long with. According to Sony, not only larger but follow Batteries s.nächstes years still synonymous single 32GB cards which we increased the recording time possible. From next year there will be synonymous nor a kind of MAZ or deck for the cards give.
My Conclusion: M25 and Z1 and EX1 buy sell.
Ordered it already and it should come in the next few weeks;)
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... now I had the chance yesterday once the camera in hand to take ... a dream ... My Conclusion: EX1 ... buy ... I've got a good piece yesterday also the first time in the hand held and I agree with this impression: Even if I personally will record on tape and a camera design as the shoulder would really prefer, I was excited of the EX1. Even the Fujinon Lens, the overwhelming good and the display Lowlightfähigkeit that is definitely on the level of VX2100/PD170 are likely to make this camera a dream - not to mention all of the nice little things that you tend to incidentally discovered.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... has the camera in the base price does not have a battery charger ... but only through a transformer directly s.die camera is connected. That would have at Sony tradition, so I have not asked, but the manual is included quite a decent named Charger BC-U1. That seems synonymous necessary, because the battery can probably only be in this device and not in the camera can be loaded.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von TechPro:
Unfortunately, I thee Disappointments in the EX1 is not a Charger in the actual response. Only the internal load. It is one in the catalog to find but the representative of Sonymeinte this is extra to order ...
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... the EX1 is no actual meaning in the Charger at ... the representative of Sonymeinte this is extra to order ... Well, should it actually s.besten know! However, there are German or Swiss dealer, the BC-U1 as part of the standard package of the camera the data (or at any rate, promise) - just like it in the manual way, and synonymous to the Sony site is. And the EX1 can then have a fixed charge Battery?
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von TechPro:
Yes, seems so.
I have, as I said, just why the right to demand extra
calculated and he said that it is not enclosed.
I and the other people in this room were surprised synonymous
However, it may of course be that this combination
only with our pre-release versions is ...
We will see (hopefully soon - in two weeks should be there);)
Antwort von WoWu:
Weis someone randomly if the light sensitivity for EX1 with pixel binning is connected?
