Frage von WWJD:
Hi together 
 Soon have a theatrical open-air performance record on HDV. 
 Unfortunately, the actors do not Ansteckfunkmicros, which would be connected s.einer audio mixer. Their voices need to live without being absorbed any Tonhilfsmittel. Since the actors are synonymous relatively far away from the camera position (; about 20-30m), I had misgivings Tonproblem. 
 Can you give me some tips on what kind of microphone should I use? 
 By the way: Did synonymous H4n a Zoom Handy Recorder for separate audio recording. 
 You Grüss 
 Jack
 Antwort von  hofnarr:

what is the spielfläche? 
 backdrop yes or no? 
 How many actors are simultaneously on stage? 
 etc. ..
 Antwort von  newsart:

This indeed means that the actors have to speak so loud that the audience understands it without Verstärkungf. Thus there should be no problem sBühnenrand position 2-4 and microphones to record either each separately or equal to (live, makes it less of a problem when cutting, because the sound engineer at the performance of the entire event as always in focus has shot mixing) to.
 Antwort von  WWJD:

@ jester: 
 It is a rectangular shape, on a diagonal Page of the Tribune, 
 gegenünegliegenden on the stage, the synonymous to the one long side 
 moved on to a part is. Few scenes, how many players at the same time I do not know at the moment, so about 5-10 people. 
 @ newsart: 
 Can you recommend an affordable mixer, with about 4 inputs, and 
 is what kind of mics do I take??
 Antwort von  Meggs:

 Can you recommend an affordable mixer, with about 4 inputs, and 
 is what kind of mics do I take??  Mixer eg 
 http://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_xenyx_1202.htm 
 Microphones eg http://www.thomann.de/de/the_tbone_sc180_stereoset.htm 
 I would distribute sBühnenrand synonymous 4 mics. Condenser microphones with cardioid polar pattern. Be sure to use wind, in addition to the SC180 (pure LowCut, wind noise). 
 If you record the channels separately, you are more flexible in noise at 1 Micro (;) wind, spectators, and you can compensate better for different volumes. Good experience I've made it, (s.Schluß can downmix to compress, gently places are loud, noisy remain the same). This raises the speech.
 Antwort von  newsart:

I would probably with two boundaries Microphones (; middle and middle re li) and two directional microphones are working s.den corners and then a Field Mixer normal SQN3 or mix with 4s. 
 For a record I would not buy the stuff, of course, but to rent. 
 Megg is certainly right that the downmix afterwards yields the best results. But it is synonymous much more expensive than a live mix that you have done then 1:1 on your video. Since synonymous must understand the audience, the Schauspiler, the acoustics should not really be so problematic. A Field mixer has the advantage that you're totally power independent and you can set the sound man practically into the audience, as when he bothers s.wenigsten. 
 Where the performance takes place, then, perhaps we can help you with technology / know-how. 
 Regards
 Antwort von  hofnarr:

little backdrop = little opportunities to hide microphones to "". be suspended micros will probably not be synonymous possible remains s.ehesten the stage edge, as of newsart recommended. possible low-noise small membrane micro-capacitor should be placed every few meters close to the ground work out. H4N is synonymous run along the existing (; leading edge center stage, from the microscopic zoom to 120 ° when the actors on stage are "scattered"). 
 cheap branded goods would be eg: 
 beyerdynamic MCE 530 
 Rode NT5 
 akg c1000 
 rode m3 
 OKTAVA mk-012 
 and many others. border area could work well, 2 pcs. ntg3 rode shotgun as synonymous. The Noble solution would be 2 stk. Gefell kem970 sbühnenrand. sauteuer but great micros ...
 Antwort von  WWJD:

Thanks guys for your suggestions. 
 Am now somewhat relieved to know that some start with something like ;-) 
 By the way: What is the difference btwn Condens. and Dynam. Micro? 
 @ newsart: Thank you for your efforts, but the whole is held abroad ...... 
 You Grüss 
 Jack
 Antwort von  hofnarr:

http://www.soundnezz.de/projects/www/radiobox/radiotechnik/mikrofon.html 
 http://www.beyerdynamic.de/home/service/faqs/mikrofon-faqs/mikrofonarten.html 
 http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamisches_Mikrofon 
 http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kondensatormikrofon 
 etc. .. ;-)
 
 Antwort von  Meggs:
 What is the difference btwn Condens. and Dynam. Micro? 
 Condenser mics are more sensitive than dynamic microphones, providing a higher level, need electricity Phantom or Battery.
 Antwort von  WWJD:

Super guys, that sounds so good. 
 Nice Weekend