Frage von der balou:
hello together,
I had to get larger quantities of mini dv tapes, I once again made a cheap prices. fazit, no preference whether the internet or in business: when the tapes were conrad with distance s.billigsten.
I bought Of type: sony dvm60pr3 (the yellow premium).
5-pack 9.99 ¬ (!).
If someone has a tip, where there are cassettes dat cheap? would be nice.
gruß
clemens
ps: I'm not a conrad-contributors :-)
Antwort von Stefan:
John Ruskin (1819 -1900):
The law of economy
There is hardly anything in this world that some man can not a little
make worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people
The only guide s.price be lawful prey.
It is unwise to pay too much, but it's worse, little
. pay
When you pay too much, you lose some money, that's all. If
You pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the
can not fulfill thing you bought was incapable of doing.
The law of business balance prohibits paying a little money-a lot.
Accept the lowest bid, you will need for the risk that
They incur hinzurechen something. And if you do this, then you have
synonymous enough money to pay for something better.
Antwort von camworks:
@ stefan: answer somewhat flat ...
the "law of economy is" probably only for products of different quality. if a particular product of a manufacturer preisvergleicht at different traders, so you do not have anything to fear. especially not with tapes, for there is neither need nor service warranty (such as eg) with a camera.
Antwort von Stefan:
"the" law of the economy "probably applies only to products of different quality."
I meant it exactly synonymous, but one may simply write so that If a certain product is not so successful? -)
CU
The fat Stefan
Antwort von camworks:
I think this falls under expression, you can ban None.
Antwort von der balou:
?? brushed under:
after the game is before the game ...
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Antwort von Markus:
This Sony tapes, there are synonymous in Blödmarkt for 10 ¬ / 5 piece, because you do not have extra to Conrad Electronic. ;-)
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
@ Mark
What do you think of the premium? Here, once posted an even ARD and ZDF, the records on these tapes. I think at least it was here in the forum, I may be wrong synonymous.
Antwort von Markus:
Hello Andrew,
I had posted, USIM post
Which DV cassette for my camcorder / tape exchange? ;-)
Have had no brand with MiniDV tape problems, not synonymous in mixed mode. Whether it was the happiness / is, I can not judge. Even those who usually post here their contribution, have any difficulty.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
@ Mark
I finally had time only blocks on the LCD of the camcorder. After switching off and switching on again everything was normal. Could it be that it is s.tape, but I have played very much synonymous with Vegas in zurückcapturen on tape. Perhaps what has been suspended since. What do you think? This effect had never seen before. I have since I've always used the TRV33 these tapes.
Antwort von Markus:
Hello Andrew,
I can not remotely assess whether the tape was faulty or something went wrong in playing off. Keep an eye on the times. ;-)
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
No, it is my time off even happened when I had left after recording the Cam and then went into standby. As I watched the scene then was admitted persons will only see more pads on. Thereupon, I turned off the cam and turned back on itself and everything funzt. I think that because something got mixed up in the software. So what happens is not only in the play.
Antwort von Markus:
It sounds, however strangely. Can you find out whether the image was recorded errors / will or may occur only when playing?
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
No, everything is perfect on the tape and watch recorded during capture and on the finished DVD nothing. The picture was just as pixelated as long I have left the camcorder running, then shut down and restarted, and exactly the same places again went wuderbar.
Has hitherto been only twice. At first I thought it was really trial and error because of the play in Vegas. I think it really connected with the software, there's something just mixed up.
Antwort von gescha:
@ Mark
What do you think of the premium? Here, once posted an even ARD and ZDF, the records on these tapes. I think at least it was here in the forum, I may be wrong synonymous. Hello Andrew,
For over 5 years, I only use Sony tapes for the TRV-900 and VX 2100th Initially, the Sony DV Excellence 60 tapes and later, the Sony DV Premium 60 tapes. A difference between the two types of Sony, I could certainly identify with my shots not. It served merely as the camcorder recording device. All tapes were then with the DV recorder Panasonic NV-DV 2000 and further - into the editing program recorded and edited - and then again with the Panasonic tape recorder as an edited movie played out. Basically, all films are again backed up to tape material.
My work Sony900 synonymous today as the beginning. It was previously only a head drum cleaning with Sony cleaning the band needed. Artifacts are to me so far remained unknown. Basically you should use the brand of its own brand of camera and tapes remain synonymous here. The reasons could be listed here go beyond the contribution. But every film-maker is well advised, when, in the statement of the camcorder Manufacturer is here synonymous with warranty conditions into play.
Greeting
Gescha
Antwort von AndyZZ:
Basically you should use the brand of its own brand of camera and tapes remain synonymous here. The reasons could be listed here go beyond the contribution. Too bad. Had our times interested!
But every film-maker is well advised, when, in the statement of the camcorder Manufacturer is here synonymous with warranty conditions into play.
I think this is mainly commercial interests play a role. It might indeed not only sell your camcorder, but synonymous accessories. And if you take into account what is now accessories, especially of camcorder manufacturers, costs, then one can assume that the accessory market is very important, because the implied warranties of silly and stupid!
Antwort von Markus:
In my MiniDV camcorder manual is available, you should use MiniDV tapes of the system. Use a bstimmte brand is only a recommendation of the manufacturer, not a condition for the guarantee.
Or has that changed now?
Antwort von AndyZZ:
Is with me as well, and I see it exactly like you, Mark.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
I use the camcorder since I've always only the Sony premium, except the very first tape was of Mount Fuji. So it can not come of a dirty mind well, for otherwise it would be permanent so that I could with the camcorder pixelated playback.
Antwort von AndyZZ:
I started off very diverse: Sony Premium, BASF Emtec, Sony Excellence ....
Emtec is the biggest scrap since I have a massive picture interference every few minutes (and the recordings of my daughter, then 4 months old, cry at the Sony premium ...), it was very rare. In the Sony Excellence, which I now use exclusively on my TRV50 and HC1000, synonymous when it hurts the wallet, I have not had another misfire. Movies, of course, synonymous only Short Play. So the Sony Excellence are recommended for me.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
I have been with me until one can determine the dropout with premiums. But I am talking primarily about durability of these tapes, as synonymous is extra on the package on it that they are suitable for archiving. Can one say the opposite?
Antwort von AndyZZ:
But I am talking primarily about durability of these tapes, as synonymous is extra on the package on it that they are suitable for archiving. Can one say the opposite? Let's be honest: which would be synonymous Manufacturer write on the packaging: not suitable for archiving! For me, these are mostly all marketing phrases ...
But if it had been okay for you, then that's good.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
And what do you think of these bands, AndyZZ.
Antwort von gast:
In my MiniDV camcorder manual is available, you should use MiniDV tapes of the system. Use a bstimmte brand is only a recommendation of the manufacturer, not a condition for the guarantee.
Or has that changed now? Not the manual but the warranty limitations Version 1.0 - 04.2004 read of Sony Germany GmbH.
Only in this way a shoe is it.
Antwort von AndyZZ:
And what do you think of these bands, AndyZZ. Can not evaluate tapes that I do not know. My opinion of myself to trying out, thou knowest I now use Sony ausschlißelich Excellence for my SonyHC1000.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
Thanks Andy.
Antwort von WeiZen:
Moin,
Now mix and Fuji Sonynicht.
I once read in www.videotreffpunkt.com.
Accordingly the Fuji are harder, the Sonyweicher.
I grudgingly have to take time for a contract Fuji.
This then resulted in 5 tapes 10 dropouts.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
@ Ulrich
The Fuji I got for free cam to do so. This was the first tape and since then I guess only premium. I think Fuji is somehow synonymous totally loose inside when you open the door already is because the entire tape completely relaxed. I think this is not the yellow of an egg these tapes.
Antwort von Max 100:
The discussion on DV tapes is not much, if not different criteria are known.
It makes a difference whether a tape is pre-encoded or not. The reasons can be found in relevant articles.
Only once used tapes (1 x Recording and then stored as a master tape for the cutting operation) or more times and erased again used for recording video tapes - regardless of brand and type - must be assessed differently. Camera and recording habits are also taken into account. Proper storage and Bandlbehandlung synonymous with plays into it.
Normally it takes, scene after scene, a review of the scenes take place until s.end one day of shooting. Should be considered in every scene rewinds to the recordings created for the head drum and the DV tape a very heavy burden, which is actually preventable. Basically you should use the tapes that are recommended by the camcorder manufacturer. This is according to his head drum coated tapes are available. As I've previously thought s.diese rules, there is no problem for me. I always use the same band as brand and synonymous sites and band've ever driven in the past 5 years with DV tapes and good camera. Over a head drum cleaning properly would require a TV technician can explain. In Casablanca forum have already provided guidance in this regard.
There are certainly reasons why Video Magazine no longer publish test's with DV tapes.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
Hello
I läst here really have no rest. I now have Sonykontaktiert, but not much informative synonymous write back. You have only posted those Excelence durable as the premium and is synonymous the dropouts will not occur. The particulars on the packaging, they are not even eingeganden because the packaging is definitely only for the premium long while (life time). I think I'll keep looking at the premiums and what comes out, it would halt much annoyed when these tapes no longer walk after small time scale.
Or am I the next camcorder would capture the massive problems with getting into the PC, ie that of the camcorder is not compatible with the tape as it should be with the JVC's.
Antwort von Charly0348:
John Ruskin (1819 -1900):
The law of economy
There is hardly anything in this world that some man can not a little
make worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people
The only guide s.price be lawful prey.
It is unwise to pay too much, but it's worse, little
. pay
When you pay too much, you lose some money, that's all. If
You pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the
can not fulfill thing you bought was incapable of doing.
The law of business balance prohibits paying a little money-a lot.
Accept the lowest bid, you will need for the risk that
They incur hinzurechen something. And if you do this, then you have
synonymous enough money to pay for something better. Usually I screw me comments, it is written, we had enough. But since I now have repeatedly stumbled over this quote am, I can not help it. This quote was conceived and poorer by the stupid and make the rich even richer. I have a few days ago, purchased after long searches on the WWW, a Canon XH A1, for 3149th - ¬ EP I had him synonymous may have for 4500th -. Which is better??
Antwort von dash snow:
But you now have the problem that you can consume Euro 1361
Antwort von B.DeKid:
His wife will thank him :-)))
Un to the DAT's - if there intressiert - maxell DM s are ok, I find, we make use of the lot in the sound studio to make nen sound (sound) impression ;-) really was the reason of the time we all knew her maxell Music Video Library And then just as full of times a swing DAT s were acquired, we were in agreement that it should be against maxell. Who can not remember s.den Spot http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=cAlYkIzvICc
And as a TV commercials do not say ;-))) characterize
(For HP STREAMER JUST ONLY Dats of HP)
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
This quote was conceived and poorer by the stupid and make the rich even richer. I have a few days ago, purchased after long searches on the WWW, a Canon XH A1, for 3149th - ¬ EP I had him synonymous may have for 4500th -. Which is better?? You have the quote is not clearly understood. This is not about selling
identical items at different prices for
a manufacturer, but
categories to articles fabricated of different manufacturers.
BG, Andreas
Antwort von dash snow:
John Ruskin (1819 -1900):
The law of economy
There is hardly anything in this world that some man can not a little
make worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people
The only guide s.price be lawful prey.
It is unwise to pay too much, but it's worse, little
. pay
When you pay too much, you lose some money, that's all. If
You pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the
can not fulfill thing you bought was incapable of doing.
The law of business balance prohibits paying a little money-a lot.
Accept the lowest bid, you will need for the risk that
They incur hinzurechen something. And if you do this, then you have
synonymous enough money to pay for something better. outstanding contribution. intolerable that schnäppchen posturing today!
Antwort von dash snow:
The Sony Premium are not as premium as the name suggests ... it This is Metal Evaporated (ME) tapes which are less by principle than Metal Particle (MP) tapes.
With us, synonymous only work in the Sony cams, are in a very short time after XL1s smeared their heads so that they need to service, with Panasonic MP tapes there has been synonymous for long operating times, no problems.
We got delivered synonymous views on Maxell tape casting in such a neon cassette box, which was probably the best s.Markt tapes (1 tape 1,50 EUR or so) there was the bank away bad dropouts.
Antwort von Quadruplex:
The Sony Premium are not as premium as the name suggests ... it This is Metal Evaporated (ME) tapes which are less by principle than Metal Particle (MP) tapes. ME tapes are coated with (encapsulated) Reineisenpartikeln, MP tapes so watered. ME tapes - have been talking quite amateurish - a higher storage capacity - for example Hi8 is the Picture in the use of ME tapes recorded with more detail. So it's solder, calling them "on principle" worse "about.
However, it was probably used in professional applications early concerns about the robustness of the ME tapes - if I really know why DVCPro uses MP.
Because it has ME tapes but there are synonymous since 1989 (with the Introduction of Hi8): So far, nothing of great Bändersterben heard. In Hi8 is indeed now the most difficult to ever find another player.
Antwort von dash snow:
With digital, it is precisely the other way because here the higher density of ME tapes does not come to bear, but the lower band of abrasion MP tapes.
In Hi8 MP were synonymous nor the cheaper tapes in DV tapes are more expensive, the MP.
Antwort von Markus:
Who uses in-MP for MiniDV tapes? To my knowledge, there was (or still exist?) Only one of Panasonic tape that is based on the MP technology. And it certainly does not lie in the greed-and Blödmärkten on the shelves.
Antwort von dash snow:
We are not synonymous with Blödmarkt buy one ;-)
And that with the ME vs.. Canon MP tapes I have of writing ...
Antwort von chris67:
For the very incredulous here nor the White Paper relating to PDF:
http://www.dlt.com/storage/whitepapers/quantum/dlt/MetalEvaporatedTapeVersusMetal.pdf
Accordingly, the MP-keeping tapes longer on average 10x before it comes to dropouts, etc., and what you the heads is vollsifft the additional layer with which lubricant is needed in ME compared to MP in connection with the already high abrasion strip.
Can anyone think what he wants to ;-)
Antwort von Markus:
That MP-tapes uncritical towards ME-types are, I am still of Hi8 known. The metallized tapes are very fragile and once viewed obliquely, it can come directly to a continued drop-out assault, of which affects a very large part of the picture.
Who is filming with one Digital8 camcorder has, indeed, take the choice between MP and ME (Hi8 tapes!), But when looking closely to one must MP MiniDV tapes.
Maybe even someone a link to a supplier of metal-coated MiniDV tapes?
Antwort von chris67:
holding the MP tapes longer on average 10x ... because most people here play on her tape anyway just once, should not the choice to buy.
BG, Andreas
