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Test: test: Blackmagic Intensity Pro of rudi - 6 Aug 2009 12:01:00
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Now that we in our last test of the DeckLink HD Extreme card full article



Antwort von deti:

It would be very nice if the card would work without a problem, but at least with us regularly denied the HDMI handshake, because the card does not respond correctly to Hotplug Detect and provides no EDID block. This many not be configurable HDMI-setter in the PAL or NTSC mode transmitted without audio. Unless the HDMI mode is set s.Zuspieler down, there will be no problems. Many consumer cameras such as Panasonic or Canon of but can not be configured. Similar problems are reported synonymous of other users on the network.

If for the time a card EDID block delivers, it supports these modes:

HDMI receiver capabilities:
Video detected:
720x480i@59.94 / 60Hz 4:3 NATIVE 0x86 (; 06)
1280x720p@59.94 / 60Hz 16:9 Native 0x84 (; 04)
1920x1080i@59.94 / 60Hz 16:9 Native 0x85 (; 05)
720x480p@59.94 / 60Hz 4:3 NATIVE 0x82 (; 02)
720x576i @ 50Hz 4:3 NATIVE 0x95 (; 21)
1280x720p @ 50Hz 16:9 Native 0x93 (; 19)
1920x1080i @ 50Hz 16:9 Native 0x94 (; 20)
720x576 @ 50Hz 4:3 NATIVE 0x91 (; 17)
640x480p@59.94 / 60Hz 4:3 NATIVE 0x81 (; 01)
Audio detected:
Audio Linear PCM 0x01 (; Max channels 2) 48KHz

Unfortunately lacks a display indicating the format in which a signal current is applied s.Input. This information is essential, because the capture settings appear to know nothing about it at the wrong choice and only a black picture. Since helping the central Choice of input and output modes, unfortunately, nothing. Rather, one should be careful when running programs capture settings are made there, because quite often leads to a blue screen with the message "Process has locked pages".

@ Slashcam: What experiences have you done?

Deti



Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

The card is shit.

Quite often the Downscalen of 720p to PAL does not, and degenerates at ungerendertem material from Final Cut Pro to flicker, which is a AJA does not, for example.

Also does the HDMI output does not show picture on a monitor - WITH HDCP SUPPORT -.

A supposedly affordable tool that does not do his service. Stay away.

MB



Antwort von PowerMac:

Also going to flat-screen HD and PAL Down-scale tube at the same time. So HD or SD. Super sausage.



Antwort von holger:

It is not necessary to install Vegas 8: The necessary files can be found right after the drivers installation synonymous in the Decklink directory, as it is synonymous with all other plug-ins of the case.



Antwort von wolfgang:

So no, I can not understand here in the comments criticisms s.der map in its entirety. A little more would be to draw a differentiated picture all right, I think. Yes, even in CS3 was the inclusion of the card only partially solved - the card is there some addressed only if the Black Magic Notes templates. In other templates I had always had problems, and occasionally the card failed with me (at all, as with HDV material from the CS3 timeline). CS4, I can not judge with regard to the involvement of the card.

The integration into the 32-bit version of Vegas Pro 8 Vegas Pro 9 is as synonymous previously possible - you should only say, that has been supported synonymous Vegas Pro 8 only in beta, and Vegas Pro 9 only the tick of handwritten transmission with the Treiberdatein is supported (; and officially do not). It is more difficult because even that 64-bit version - yet neither Vegas Pro 8.1 Vegas Pro 9 64-bit - have not any more integrated interface - Holger that would have been heard in the article, I think.

What I do not agree with the assessment that there is no difference in graphics cards in Vegas were (and I am applying it consciously to Vegas). I do not mean, however, the 8-bit signal processing, but the resolution. At least for my graphics card I have from Vegas herraus a significantly better resolution of a good HD picture, comparing the Intensity Pro and hdmi to hdmi graphics cards with DVI adapter cable. This is synonymous with test images proved. And in some pans of HDV material behaves Intensity synonymous better than my ATI graphics card - might be that my graphics card is crap - but I've certainly learned to appreciate the intensity here as synonymous bit other users of the Vegas 32 version.

What does not always work well in Vegas is the preview of AVCHD material when using the intensity - the only internal preview on some systems has been occasionally significantly better preview capabilities in frames / second, compared to the intensity. I do not know the absolute generalized to there are too many dialects of AVC and the behavior is not always easily reproducible. And not necessarily attributable to the card. But I did it again and again to observe.

I would hope for the future a better integration in our editing programs - whether it is CS3 (; as synonymous) probably CS4, and it was Vegas in the 32-bit as synonymous in the 64 version. Would be here Black Magic with the NLE software forges sit down and make better inclusions - which could include both sides - the card is a much better and be truly synonymous very cheap solution for a quite good but HD Preview chain. I hope that is doing something ...



Antwort von deti:

I am of the opinion that a credit card that has only via HD-SDI and HDMI in / out would be to much for everyday use, as a Analogmonster. If you look at it, whatever number of chips in the Intensity Pro board only for the analog input and output on it goes, then there exists a real potential savings to build an HD-SDI interface on it too.

Enclosed a picture that shows what is on the board. Here are the main components:
Digitalkram:
PX1011 (; PCIe Interface)
XC3S1200E (; FPGA)
K4H561638 (; 256Mb DDR SDRAM)
FL040AIF (; Flash Memory)
TDA9975 (; HDMI receiver and 10bit RGB and YUV decoder)
AD9889 (; HDMI transmitter)

Analogzeug:
ADV7180 (; 10bit-PAL/NTSC decoder)
ADV7393 (; 10bit YUV, composite and S-Video Encoder)
2 (x CY22394; timer / PLL)
CS4265 (; audio codec / converter)

What the F * ck?
CY7C68013 (; USB controller with 8051 CPU)

Does anybody know what they are looking USB Beech on the board right up there?

This would, incidentally synonymous refuted that the card delivers only 8bit. The built-analog devices are all designed to 10bit, presumably these are the same chips as the Decklink Board in order to minimize the development effort.

Deti



Antwort von rudi:

Quote: @ Slashcam: What experiences have you done?

In fact, we had occasional problems synonymous active HDMI signal s.der map to find on capture. We have done this, however, due to the fact that we have continually experimented with DirectShow filter graph and ffdshow to foist the card synonymous another codec when capturing. Although this worked occasionally, but had often synonymous, a new driver installation result. This is exactly the problem described in that one of many consumer camcorders can not influence the HDMI signal (; particularly negative here was to Canon). Therefore we wanted to blame this behavior in the article is not alone the map. However, we had a blue screen before.

Quote: Does anybody know what they are looking USB Beech on the board right up there?


Over which we have already surprised synonymous. But since we can look forward to his imagination going. (; Alternative flash option?)

Quote: This would, incidentally synonymous refuted that the card delivers only 8bit. The built-analog devices are all designed to 10bit, presumably these are the same chips as the Decklink Board in order to minimize the development effort.

With 8 bits we thought the HDMI signal. It should be clear that the intensity would probably synonymous with no problems 10-bit HDMI, but this is deativiert in the drivers to sell more cards yet to be synonymous.

Regards

Rudi



Antwort von Peter Friesen:

Hello,
So I have a part for a year. It is possible from the perspective of the normal user can only say that the part is scrap
I want to edit video `s and not tothe moon fliegen.Das there was no connection to the sound card and you are therefore on the audio output of Intensity umstöpseln must s.Betrug borders.
So Conclusion: Never install a bit of Decklink!

Gruß Peter Friesen






Antwort von Peter Friesen:

Hello,
So I have a part for a year. It is possible from the perspective of the normal user can only say that the part is scrap
I want to edit video `s and not tothe moon fliegen.Das there was no connection to the sound card and you are therefore on the audio output of Intensity umstöpseln must s.Betrug borders.
So Conclusion: Never install a bit of Decklink!

Gruß Peter Friesen



Antwort von wolfgang:

Interesting Peter. So I drive the Intensity Pro with the 32 bit version of Vegas, and it is with me so that I am on the 2nd hdmi Intensity Monitor - for me an HDTV - synonymous to transfer the audio signal get. This is naturally only in stereo - is true. What I, at least for 2.0 projects, but quite sufficient. For 5.1 projects, I'm going through the sound card - that's right.



Antwort von Peter Friesen:

Hello,
yes that's right, via HDMI, the audio signal comes out, of course, would be synonymous worse.
On the TV is then synonymous Plama all clear, but when I am with the Preview Monitor s.PC not exactly work. It is expected as a normal user, if the part 4 is compatible with CS, I get the sound synonymous. If you still think of how long it took until the Decklink men were as far as now, one can only say that these are software Fuscher
Incidentally, there are HDMI - splitter, so that one can decouple the HDMI audio signal and then feed into the line again, but I beg you ..
Give me the part of Edius, pure and fly off, and nothing before the Moon.
Gruß Peter Friesen



Antwort von deti:

"wolfgang" wrote: ... on the Intensity hdmi to 2 Monitor ...
Well, but that job would have any motherboard or any graphics card with HDMI output perfect, done synonymous in 50Hz with 5.1 audio. This requires, in any case not an expensive capture card, which is not right for capturing ;-)

Incidentally, Blackmagic Design is aware of the problems with HDMI / DCC handshake and tries to find a solution. At least they say so

Deti



Antwort von Peter Friesen:

Well,
they try, what do they do so hobbyists and Fuscher just ....

For me it has got them done, after all, still capture more ... ?

MfG

Peter Friesen



Antwort von wolfgang:

So I can confirm this with the equivalence of the graphics card does not necessarily - at least my graphics card is significantly worse than the intensity, ok hold on a DVI-HDMI adapter cable. But is synonymous an MSI ATI RX2600 XT and thus a reasonably modern card. It may be that over hdmi graphics cards are as good - but synonymous since I would rather see me in a system test times using pictures that actually achieved resolutions. Intensity is the fact that my older Canopus NX now has nothing to - and synonymous, the graphics card on the paper 1920x1080 50i, but tests show pictures quickly on the difference in the two aforementioned cards. At least for me.

That involvement at Adobe was not particularly good, although Adobe has officially backed ... I know this is crazy, and at this point I am totally with you. There was, indeed, the involvement of the beta driver much better for Vegas. A collaboration between the Black Magic and Sonyaber is broken - why always synonymous. Well ...



Antwort von raphipaffi:

Hey folks,

So yesterday I tested once, the video signal of an XH A1 capture over the Component Out to lossless. And I'm FilterGraph and uses this setup:
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3114/huffob3.png

So I use HuffYUV to compress lossless data. Thus easily create 1920x1080 25p. Good sound but now I had not plugged my filter graph so synonymous to take on (and only the lines was nothing s.den).
So I can not understand why it is said in the article that you are uncompressed limited to the shabby MJPEG codec or complete. I see a so that the normal user erstmal so warnimmt. Since her but synonymous with FilterGraph have rumexperimentiert,'s amazed that she says nothing about this solution. So for me it works without problems. And I do not even need a RAID to store the data. A normal Seagate Barracuda 7000.11 500GB tuts synonymous.
And with the drivers there were no problems. So for me and my blue screen shots is the ideal solution.

Gruss,
Raphi



Antwort von Alf_300:

I have the Intensity Pro synonymous, tested for lack of camera via HDMI and cable box.
Proper operation except for DV and JMpeg I had not until I had installed a faster hard drive.
With the included benchmark we already see what is happening and what is not.
During installation I had to synonymous (only by hand of U.S. Copy DE; Premiere CS3)
If you have the Drivers 1.11 Map synonymous with running Premiere 1.5