Newsmeldung von slashCAM: Test: Test: Panasonic HDC-SD300 - The new reference? Of rudi - 10 Feb 2009 14:42:00 > The new HD-top model of the Panasonic Consumer League come the first image sensors for use, synonymous with no pixel shift arithmetically the full HD-resolution work. Can Panasonic So now to compete with regard to the sharpness unlock?
Antwort von Jan:
Thank you for the test.
Exactly what we had expected happened - (not negatively)
This makes Panasonic - Canon and Sony make the fire .....
VG
Jan
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
With plenty of light, good video ...
Camera of the Year 2009?
Now was the SD100 Camera Slashcam in the year 2008 ...
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Antwort von Shiranai:
At Trusted Reviews, the camera already pre laurels without end. What, however, after reading this test again relativized.
I would honestly 3x3 Megapixels of expected more, especially in low light - still cuts very well Cam s.and surpasses Canon in part to a trifle.
However, Canon's new models is the time to wait, rather than the SD300 with its last year's models to compare.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
This is again only a fair-weather camera has, I am interested in whether the SD300 with attached Sunglasses (polarized glasses), the display looks at all?
zum Bild In the SD100, I saw with attached Sonenbrille only black!
Antwort von domain:
In that case, I would to the SD300, however, synonymous black look, especially because without sunglasses Pol-Effect almost no longer to get.
Antwort von EEG:
No Camera from the pro camp Sony, Pana, JVC below of EUR 10,000 is more than 1 megapixel per chip, even when the chips have four surface (1 / 2 "). Who" moving pictures "record and / or with low light cope , is 3 times with 3 megapixel bad advice. They are only the "Pixelwahn" in the amateur camp owed. Resolutionist not everything.
Antwort von RickyMartini:
For HDV 1.6 MPixel rich and for FullHD 2MPixel - everything is just about the creation of higher-resolution photos.
Antwort von EEG:
... filmed on 3 times 2 megapixel to 2 / 3 of the chip area = 3 times 1 / 6 "! great resolution, but the temporal resolution is in no test - not synonymous with Slashcam - measured.
Antwort von Jan:
With an optical resolution stability with a big loss? (I do not understand), or why Panasonic is only a smaller area for the video provide?
The SD 100 was sharpness in things with their 610k (Pixel Shift is synonymous not 1920s Resolutionherzaubern) simply put, the new camera is definitely better.
VG
Jan
Antwort von WoWu:
... filmed on 3 times 2 megapixel to 2 / 3 of the chip area = 3 times 1 / 6 "! great resolution, but the temporal resolution is in no test - not synonymous with Slashcam - measured. EEG, is the 16:9 area mean?
What exactly do you mean with "temporal resolution"?
Antwort von EEG:
... or why Panasonic is only a smaller area for the video provide?
Lt. the published specifications are 3 times 3 times at 3-megapixel 3 1 / 4 "chips for still image is available, of which 2 / 3, namely 3 times 2 megapixel to 3 1 / 6" part chips for video. (Arithmetic: 1 / 4 * 2 / 3 = 1 / 6).
Wolfgang: that everything should be for 16 * 9-apply format.
(I am happy to correct that wrong is human)
Erich
Antwort von EEG:
EEG, is the 16:9 area mean?
What exactly do you mean with "temporal resolution"? For "Temporal Resolution" would have to be a measure to be developed to indicate what movement / swing angular velocity at which motion artifacts such as blur leads, bucking, education, etc. The blocks are Proficams in order to achieve the highest possible temporal resolution optimized by limiting the number of pixels to the top , high transfer rates of up to 60 MHz and more intra-frame compression rather long GOP (group of pictures) and more fast processors.
Erich
Antwort von WoWu:
@ EEG
Hi Erich,
I must admit
.... I have with the land division is not entirely understood.
But the camera has 3 sensors each with Mpix 2.2, which already has the size 16:9 and not 4:3 as in the past.
Accordingly, neither a correction factor of 4:3 to 16:9 after issue, nor a correction for a Farbmosaikmaske.
Thus it is likely 2283 pixels horizontally and 1285 pixels vertically.
The "excess" values are expected for the motion prediction outside the picture window are visible. (Global vector)
To that extent, I 1 / 6 "concerns not understand without further explanation.
Antwort von EEG:
@ EEG
Hi Erich,
I must admit
.... I have with the land division is not entirely understood.
... To that extent, I 1 / 6 "concerns not understand without further explanation. Correction:
The video, set 2.07 Mpx, only a portion of the surface on the 1 / 4, 1 "chip that contains a total of 3.05 Mpx are upset. To the diagonal of the sub-chips with 2.07 Mpx to determine have the ratio of land (2.07 / 3.05) to the square of the diagonal in relation to. As a result - other than above - for the part-chip with 2.07 Mpx:
1 / 4, 1 "* SQR (2.07 / 3.05) = 1 / 5"
and not 1 / 6 ", as stated above.
Erich
Antwort von WoWu:
Hi Erich,
.. with a 3-chip camera, even if the design of the sensors would be 4:3, it brings in at 3.05 Mpix 16:9 at 2017 pixels horizontally and 1134 pixels vertically.
So I can at best will not recognize the problem?
And how are you on the 2.07 Mpix?
Antwort von EEG:
Hello Wolfgang,
there is a PDF of Dateil about the Panasonic "HDC-HS300EGK" with the technical data:
Pixel: 3x3, 05 MP (total), 3x2, 07 MP (effective)
Erich
Antwort von WoWu:
Hello Erich .. did you link me, because I really can not imagine what the then with the 2.07 mean.
Time, quite apart from that I basically agree with your belief that the small pixel size in such a small chip is detrimental anyway ... I would only understand less.
Antwort von EEG:
Hello Wolfgang,
here the link:
http://www.business.panasonic.de/print/datenblatt_ph.asp?model=HDC-HS300EGK
Regards, Erich
Antwort von WoWu:
Hi Ernst,
thanks for the link, now that I finally geschnallt what the mean.
But you have in your calculation of a small mistake, because if I get a "windowing" to make a chip, I do not shrink the chip, because the pixel size is naturally preserved. Quite differently than I would (in this case) a 1 / 6 "chip set. A 1 / 6" chip would have a PP of 1.24 y, the 1 / 4 "sensor, but 1.59 y. Both sensible enough for TV pictures because even with a 1 / 4 "sensor would be by the Lens at full 1920 Resolutioneine quality of 314 lp / mm presuppose. Resolutions, which simply could not afford to are already there and the limiting factor is the Camera.
So even if the three chips have 1131 x 2010 resolution should be no later than the lens creates no more. And even if I have it still a window of 2.07 Mpix make are always 300 Lp / mm.
Antwort von Interlaced_Killer:
What issn nu with the fan? Has now or not?
And she takes on progressive or interlaced? When has it ever Vormodell awaiting progressively until s.Ende some sophisticated buyers have found out that it's not true.
Antwort von airtight:
Pity that the bitrate from 17 Mbit / s remains. If they had increased to 24, then I would like to have this growth ...
Antwort von Jan:
Two new functions are still down, but not quite so important for some users.
The new Panasonic models now have a time lapse function and a direct MPEG 576i down edition of their material. Time-lapse function in an HD Camera, there were of my knowledge, Panasonic, Sony or Canon (models up to 2008) but not included in the class up to 1500 ¬.
The MPEG 2 PAL 576i output is synonymous with new Panasonic, but Sony can quite long, with Canon HDV synonymous.
VG
Jan
Antwort von EEG:
But you have in your calculation of a small mistake, because if I get a "windowing" to make a chip, I do not shrink the chip, ... Hello Wolfgang,
Although it is only a rather theoretical approach, but once we see it this way:
Looking at the 1 / 4, 1 "chip with the 3.05 Mpx and cut it into a" window "with 2.07 Mpx that this window has the size of a 1 / 5" chips. Anyone can easily calculate (see above). And that is the key size for the video with this camera.
Kind regards, Erich
Antwort von fokuss:
S.SlashCam question: can you photos of the right side of the camcorder to upload? I am particularly interested in the lateral accessory shoe. can not in the web of the other photos except sd300 find just the display side of the 3D view on the Panasonicseite does not.
Thanks in advance
Antwort von sirpwnalot:
Is there somewhere and test it for the videos were the sd300.
Würd mich happy times of the quality itself can not convince of test report.
Antwort von WoWu:
Hello Wolfgang,
Although it is only a rather theoretical approach, but once we see it this way:
Looking at the 1 / 4, 1 "chip with the 3.05 Mpx and cut it into a" window "with 2.07 Mpx that this window has the size of a 1 / 5" chips. Anyone can easily calculate (see above). And that is the key size for the video with this camera.
Kind regards, Erich Hi Erich,
.... which I do not see it because the horizontal Resolutiondes 1 / 4 "chips and so remains only of the" redundant "vertical lines disappear. And you have to be the pixel size and the fill-factor of the larger chips. Since the production technology of the chips of this size but identical, would be in a smaller chip and identical Resolutionsomit the fill-factor increase and the values thus worsen.
Would you have a 1 / 5 "chip set, would be synonymous all other parameters change ... and so the sensitivity as synonymous and synonymous associated with the signal to noise ratio worse.
Quite aside from that the customs value in any case are only reference values and with the real dimensions of the sensors is only partly to do.
Antwort von nachtspion:
What I do in case the test may not entirely understand, is to assess the Lowlight properties.
I have the SD300 Slashcam in the database with the HF100 and I compared the 12 lux images are viewed. My subjective impression is that the SD300 is much brighter picture. While it is then the noise is critical, but if I change the camera settings so change the SD300 roughly the same picture as the HF100 generated at 12 lux, the noise would subside synonymous? Or what I see as wrong?
Antwort von blip:
S.SlashCam question: can you photos of the right side of the camcorder to upload? I am particularly interested in the lateral accessory shoe. can not in the web of the other photos except sd300 find just the display side of the 3D view on the Panasonicseite does not. Here are two quick photos, so to speak, made between the door and Angel ...
Antwort von Jan:
The automatic white balance love grins ....
Antwort von rudi:
I have the SD300 Slashcam in the database with the HF100 and I compared the 12 lux images are viewed. My subjective impression is that the SD300 is much brighter picture. While it is then the noise is critical, but if I change the camera settings so change the SD300 roughly the same picture as the HF100 generated at 12 lux, the noise would subside synonymous? Or what I see as wrong? It is not just the noise, what the assessment is received. Comparison synonymous times the (rest-) sharpness of the images. Because the SD300 is clearly after.
In addition, the Panasonic tricks here by the exposure of 1 / 50 to 1 / 25 reduced (interlaced stripes are missing), while the Canon obviously still with 1 / 50 films (interlaced strips available). That brings the best points for Canon.
Antwort von nachtspion:
I am now not so professional, but a comparison of the two images can then cameras but not so meaningful. OK, now you know the HF100 a better automatic mode. But the manual options for the SD300 makes it so interesting, especially in comparison to HF.
Sogesehen it would be good to know how the picture looks like when the SD is set to manual so that they have the same attitudes as the HF in automatic mode aufweist.
That is an objective image comparison, at least for my claims, because the lack of manual intervention possibilities of HF make me hesitate to buy the camera. Since I am of the VX2100 in Lowlight'm very spoiled, and good qualities in precisely this area very important to me are I am hesitating now synonymous with the Panasonic. The now is everything I miss at the HF, but failed "apparently" in Lowlight. (or can be anywhere from 12 lux pictures of the old VX2100 Slashcam database of movies?)
As I have brought in experience, there is no HD cam below the ¬ 1,000 in Lowlight with the VX2100 can measure, anyway, or exactly why I would like the best in HD Lowlight in <1,000 euros.
The coming to Sony's quite good, on the homepage of Will Sony but they did not specify the input jack for microphones have. So ein Mist! If I am wrong, I ask you to me absolutely correct. I would like to Cam for interviews, without input jack or alternative is a camera for me unusable. Wants are not really external audio recording.
Probably need in a hybrid from Canon / Panasonic / Sony.
Antwort von rudi:
I am now not so professional, but a comparison of the two images can then cameras but not so meaningful. Yes and no. We here at the test setup synonymous hot heads discussed. But it is not easy. Because in our database appear synonymous, which does not allow manual setting, you must halt any joint test, which is all you can apply. I personally filme eg Low-Light always with 1 / 25 second, because we won here plenty of light and movement in the resolution for my taste relatively little loss. Manufacturer Many see this as well, and put the cameras in automatic mode in low light at 1 / 25 second.
But if we like this test, we would have a lot of Sony's for the past 3 years under 1,000 euro can not test because they simply do not shutter speed of 1 / 25 seconds to offer.
Just one problem: Gain. Some cameras can still be 18 dB, only another 12 dB or less. So it may happen that a camera with 12dB still get the picture would make it better, but allowed 18 dB. A fixed value set here makes little sense, as long as not all cameras offer the same values.
So we have decided -> automatic mode. Measured is what the Camera rausholt. Synonymous Certainly not ideal, but a decision. If we now change would be equally so the comparability.
But one thing is helpful but if you look at the test pictures still looks interlaced strips sees, and (!) The camera manual 1 / 25 seconds allowed, then we know that there is more there is, if one with 1 / 25 seconds would be filming.
For all other problems on comparability, I recommend that once again our articles:
http://www.slashcam.de/artikel///So-testet-slashCAM---alles-.html
and especially:
http://www.slashcam.de/artikel//Editorials/Sinn-and-Unsinn-of--Tests--alles-.html
Many greetings
Rudi
Antwort von nachtspion:
This is a dilemma, and I can understand the man synonymous for a test must decide. Here we opt for the "weakest link" decision. But what is correct, the other way, it is not possible.
But one could do so in future. For the devices offer the manual controls, add an extra column. The images in the mode in the car were made, again the two are then pre-determined parameters have been made.
Then Comparison namely a layman like me. This can be seen at first sight, aha RF has apparently not enough possibilities scenario manual abzulichten.
For someone like me, it is then much easier to compare and to make a purchasing decision, because the Slashcamdatenbank is my only clue.
Clearly a professional has enough experience to his information from the images filtered by Slashcam (bright but blurred, unnatural colors, etc.).
Antwort von Pyrospotter:
Habe grade and get the SD300 now synonymous knows how to get s.die Cam. In the preliminary report for active video so you could see only the shoe, but the enclosed "diversion" to simplify the matter.
Is me through that one already before me pictures, so ask s.einen Admin, my contribution to delete.
Antwort von nachtspion:
What is your first impression of the Cam. She is in my immediate choice, but I am still undecided. Do you have any experience with the HF100 and can do this from your point of view of comparison?
Or. Cam what else have you, SD9?
Antwort von Stonehorn:
@ Pyrospotter
I would be synonymous on your described experience looking!
Have a variety of electrical market in the hand held.
The HF100 is very inconvenient to use, good HD quality or not.
Sony's CX11 is much better but the memory sticks are expensive arg!
The SD300 is very well in my hand and makes great use. Very good to find the Viewfinder! I have of building from a Panasonic digicam and come with the handling very good zurrecht. In addition, Panasonic is well known to be in harmony with Macs. For me as an Apple user is not just a small factor. Purchase From keeps me only from the high price. But I think times in the summer for the Cam already well below 1000EUR to be.
@ Slashcam
Just in the PDF manual after reading, that the inlet s.der Page actually is a fan! Can you possibly explain its properties? Say is the part to be heard? Turns the s.and again?
Antwort von sirpwnalot:
hab ne Japanese Page found it on the example of the videos there
http://74.125.39.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20090218/zooma399.htm&usg=ALkJrhij5oBL02Ouy35EL3eGb-t6fQtpug [/ url]
Antwort von RickyMartini:
@ Pyrospotter
I would be synonymous on your described experience looking!
Have a variety of electrical market in the hand held.
The HF100 is very inconvenient to use, good HD quality or not.
Sony's CX11 is much better but the memory sticks are expensive arg!
The SD300 is very well in my hand and makes great use. Very good to find the Viewfinder! I have of building from a Panasonic digicam and come with the handling very good zurrecht. In addition, Panasonic is well known to be in harmony with Macs. For me as an Apple user is not just a small factor. Purchase From keeps me only from the high price. But I think times in the summer for the Cam already well below 1000EUR to be.
@ Slashcam
Just in the PDF manual after reading, that the inlet s.der Page actually is a fan! Can you possibly explain its properties? Say is the part to be heard? Turns the s.and again? Caution!
With AVCHD, the old rules regarding the compatibility no more! You'll go through the
ProRes (Intermediatecodec) must go to any AVCHD with an apple to be able to process!
The fan cools the chip AVCHD and always runs well.
Get more information about
AVCHD & Mac clever!
Antwort von Stonehorn:
Thanks Ricky! Synonymous've just read that AVCHD virtually only in Apple format is converted. Hab nen quite jaunty MacBookPro with iMovie 09 'in front of me, so I have therefore only to NEN Import. But once imported so everything should run quite unnecessary, as I am accustomed. Must be me again the electric fan in the market just listen. So far, I just turned off in your hands.
@ sirpwnalot Thanks for the link! Moving pictures tell so much more than still pictures!
Toll would be if someone has a raw AVCHD file directly from nem Panasonic for me would have. (Also of the SD100, etc.) could be so free as the times it works! I would be very happy if someone a video snippets could upload somewhere.
-> Find the link under sirpwnalots;) But beware those who would like to try the same iMovie is intrinsically seeehr while importing!
Antwort von RickyMartini:
There are even videos of the new HS300:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20090218/zooma399.htm
This is the link of above! ;)
Let's "Read" as it is with you! :)
Antwort von Stonehorn:
Werkel I have all the time with the first snippets in iMovie! Had, however. Mts with Voltaic (free version) in. Mov convert. So then just 24MB more than tenfold to 263MB. :-O HD really need a lot of space!
Antwort von RickyMartini:
Werkel I have all the time with the first snippets in iMovie! Had, however. Mts with Voltaic (free version) in. Mov convert. So then just 24MB more than tenfold to 263MB. :-O HD really need a lot of space! Klappt playing the MTS file with any program at least somewhat easily?
Antwort von Stonehorn:
Works with Toast 9 and the latest VLC nightlybuild (but still not perfect).
Quicktime does not, otherwise the path is only about Voltaic.
I have all but still a little test. I'm still old SD material used HD is still uncharted territory for me! Once imported, but made it back just the usual. However, I must when exporting a little test. The goal is a good picture for HD-Ready 40 "TFT Television.
Image quality of the HS300 but I think as far very good! As far as I am here on my small 15 "can be assessed. I still need an external monitor with full HD resolution. But since the purchase of a HD-eh pending until the summer because I do not stress and wait synonymous first user of my previous opinions bookmarks.
Antwort von Pyrospotter:
So, yesterday after I first 5 minutes of video and made it into the calculator had thrown, I try to grade it at Vimeo upload. My line and spins a little as 500MB yes take breaks he likes, but the hope remains. So far, I must say that the Cam is almost what I had wished. Why not the full 24MB data transfer, by, I'd like to know. Now a few more chips and the photo function Kicking and they would be perfect. The recordings over the component cable s.Röhrenfernseher are sometimes very beautiful. The recordings with Media Player Classic on the laptop synonymous look good, but I need a device that has a screen resolution of 1920x1080. Maybe tomorrow in the office. The videos in 1280x720 as a Windows Media file to DVD are synonymous klasse. Aufjedenfall ever ne super increase compared to the SD100, which I had synonymous.
Antwort von RickyMartini:
Even without FullHD monitor can enjoy FullHD material - does not work because you kirrelig with, guys!
With a 22 "monitor and 1680x1050 is the best way is synonymous!;)
If you have a 17er or 19er has to be worth an upgrade to a FullHD course.
Antwort von Flati:
The Lowlightfähigkeit is a big disappointment. Since the Canon HF100 is really a different class.
Antwort von Pyrospotter:
So, here my test video.
Fireworks Typical setting 1 / 50, 0 dB and F2.0 as well as manual focus, so we filmed all of our fireworks.
Antwort von nachtspion:
@ flati: you have both cameras in the hand held? Have you filmed in the car mode or manual set everything in the Panasonic?
Antwort von nachtspion:
I have an interesting Atikel to HDC HS300 with trusted reviews found:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/camcorders/review/2009/02/07/Panasonic-HDC-HS300/p1
Most interesting is this passage:
The level of detail and color fidelity this camcorder can produce is nothing short of stunning, in virtually all conditions. Low light performance is particularly amazing. There is a certain amount of grain, but the level of color s.very maintained low levels of illumination is a revelation. Overall, this is the first consumer camcorder we've seen which has managed to exceed the high benchmark set by Canon's excellent HF10, HF100, HG20 and HF11. - Lowlight ... amazing
- Exceed ... Canon HF10, HF100 ...
Antwort von Jan:
The new video is active within the next few days on the market.
Time excited about what they are on the SD 300 write ....
And I have the camera is still not in the shop ...
- Panasonic - Do you like me? Yeah, I probably overpaid Canon advertised ***
VG
Jan
Antwort von nachtspion:
Have another test found HS300:
http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/camcorders/panasonic-hdc-hs300/10147.html
He confirms the experience from the Slashcam test. Poor Lowlight performance.
Antwort von Satbär:
For those who are interested:
According to information of Panasonic is the winner in the video asset digital 3 / 2009:
http://www.panasonic.de/html/de_DE/1962696/index.html
Regards
Antwort von cb62:
link does not currently seem to lie s.der Panaseite (conversion?)
Thanks for the video asset notice.
For those who (like me) can not expect:
the asset as a video magazine comes only yes p.17. March out, but you can now synonymous magazine as a pdf download (7.5 ¬ = payment via 'ClickandBuy', there goes by as credit, debit ,...) => is already on my PC ;-)
They have their way, testing 'refine' => 2 tables as a general overview on 109th Page For me unexpectedly: the Canon Legria HF S 10 in the laboratory has 2 points less (= 18 of 25 possible)
Antwort von Satbär:
Hello,
link to the Panasonic is working again at least for now.
For the curious, to wait for the booklet:
Are there remarkable about the?
Regards
Antwort von cb62:
What interested you in detail?
If there are several specials, such as purchase advice Panasonic, 4 newcomers, news, test: HDV professional SonyHVR-Z 5 E, Praxistest: GPS function in the VE SonyXR 200, various editing program testing, ... indoors
edit, forgot link
Here is an overview to find
http://www.videoaktiv.de/Hefte/2009/VIDEOAKTIV-3/2009- April / May.html
Antwort von Satbär:
I went to the test of the Panasonic HDC-SD300 and the Canon HF Legria S 10th As many probably wait on it.
Regards
Antwort von cb62:
Hmpf, I am not well versed in order to copyright ....
If I can not please give notice, then I edit it out.
Here is a mix of my summaries and quotes (Panasonicorientiert):
.... SD 100: bad focus ... now is one of the SD 300 is now one of the
sharpest .... Interior scenes even beat those of the
HF S 10th What remains are the apparent blurring
in pans, in daylight, but they were limited.
Here, both candidates were almost at the same level of sharpness.
.... in color are now less colored (not Lowlightb. claimed!)
In all other situations grießelte is light at only 300 SD minimal. Reliable AF, reliable stability
Sound: Canon Dynamics slightly better, with better spatial Pana
For all values with the vertical resolution to do: Panasonic to class (s) better, as well as noise in the area 900Lux
In the hope. that this was OK ....
Antwort von Satbär:
Thanks for the brief summary. Next week more s.Kiosk.
Everything sounds not so great progress compared with the previous generation. Since there still remains a Canon HF 100 (HF or 11?).
Greetings!
Antwort von cb62:
So now I tend to Panasonic. ;-)
Antwort von Stonehorn:
I am still on the GH1:)
Antwort von Jan:
I got the magazine synonymous before me (yes who has a subscription), the S 10 is probably more of a Disappointments, minimally worse picture quality of a HG 20 & 21 but more expensive ....
A certain Lowlighteinbruch Video Active has synonymous with the SD 300 found (the Slashcamtest was not so wrong).
In the line pair resolution is the SD 300 but "world class" - in the price class.
I have now finally been synonymous SD 300 because, well the touch screen I do not like really. The ring features are now better resolved. In my opinion, it is rubbish anyway, the WAG or the example on the shutter ring to place (as its predecessor).
Distance and Zoom is always logical and confuses the menu is not too much.
Through the touch screen (but what good!) You can now very quickly adjust aperture and shutter (s.LCD with selectable icons below) without the main menu to go.
Function Long Exposure (as of me suspects) to get a (1 / 25 sec and faster) or (1 / 50 sec and faster) default to bring about equal opportunities. Canon and Sony have this feature synonymous.
VG
Jan
Antwort von nachtspion:
@ Jan, I've bought my HF100 and am a little disappointed (again goes back). My problem is the LCD screen of the currently filmed slightly delayed (perhaps 0.5 seconds) shows. Is similar to the SD300 to see?
What is your overall impression, one can find the Cam classified as semi?
Can you find the Cam with the other you've used / had to compare, maybe even HF's or HG's?
After the HF100 over the sky is praised, but I am not satisfied (the time shift disrupts really anyone?), I'm still skeptical over the whole test reports.
Antwort von Satbär:
What struck me at the Panasonic HDC-SD300 still interested:
Disturbs the fan, except that dust can get inside. In particular, the fan noise on the recordings to be heard? Or you can switch off the fan. Other cards with recording but have not synonymous fan.
Greetings!
Antwort von cb62:
I have now finally been synonymous SD 300 because ..... Hi
cool!
Did you perhaps coincidentally synonymous a suitable IR or UV/IR- there? I would be interested in burning, as then the Low-Light Picture looks.
Antwort von Sirius:
Hi,
after years without, I speculate on the Panasonic HDC-SD300.
On the topic of shooting, I am a Beginner.
What struck me during the tests again and again noticed, as synonymous with this Cam,
is the seemingly poor "LowLight ability."
I have questions.
What does "bad LowLight ability"?
What is with normal shots in the house?
(Z. Bsp. Livingroom with daylight or artificial with s.Abend)
Is the "ability LowLight" here to "reasonable" Recordings
make them?
Or even here one needs an additional source of light?
Simply put, in which recording situations, you
"LowLight" and which not?
I know, I know, certainly not easy to say, certainly more
Situation dependent.
Eventually, the one or the other here in the forum still something
to say?
Antwort von Jan:
@ Satbär - Actually looks like a fan, but I heard nothing, although the camera shot. This can now s.einer possible for my hearing, or it is not a fan (Even though what are the big air intakes else there?) As we know it (ie the SD of 9) .... In the menu there is no off switch - I would have wondered synonymous.
@ Night spion
These tests do I like about the magazine (yes you can take a look at the video or in the active database Slashcam throw) & or specific users (such as the trunk), and None for the purpose of cost optimal test conditions &. The HF 100 or the HG 20 & 21 I've always gone, because many customers have quickly understood that it is not necessarily wiser, on the new Canon models to wait.
The time delay, I never noticed (as so many users), you are synonymous, the first user and customer (in this issue describes).
Yes, more manual intervention options & auxiliary displays, there were rare in the class, the Camera is synonymous out clearly as the SD 100 & HS 100th Also in the sound because there are very unusual manual options (bass setting).
A 25 P mode ala Canon but I have not found.
@ Cb62 - IR I have unfortunately not as
@ Sirius - this question can be answered very badly, because the demands of the customers are very different. As for a user or a good picture, is for another user a noisy dark picture - depending on the right stop. For me it was like a Panasonic GS 90 Picture for interior shots with blinds pulled down and 2x 60-watt lamps in the apartment too dark, other people thought - it is ok - what hast thou?
In normal daylight windows and has a SD 300 in my opinion, no problems, evening shots in the apartment would be synonymous with light then such a dispute. Some of the 200 class, such as ¬ 90 to GS but in daylight indoors a little "time out".
Zb video has assets test for synonymous pictures at 150 lux (interior shot) and 30 lux (Leselampenlicht) - Videoaktiv.de. Slashcam is synonymous test pictures under different lighting situations.
Professionals often use a light, one can eg synonymous with premiere soccer look. Although the cameras are much more light, brings a picture with just a light head better illumination, and the synonymous clock already 17:15 in the summer after a match. Otherwise you stop weak colors, or a dark & noisy Picture.
Yes, you should use a light, 90% of the owners of up to 1500 ¬ Camera make this but still not in order to supplement, weight & volume or more effort. Man, there are satisfied with the picture. The companies have not so many free Camera Accessory shoe no gifts - because only very few users use.
VG
Jan
Antwort von nachtspion:
I have to fast for a short video made. There is the time offset well to recognize.
http://vimeo.com/3676078
It should be noted, for example if I have the bottle on the table, bang, when the sound comes and then the audio levels at the bottom of the left HF ausschlägt delayed.
Why is it never has a disturbed me remains a mystery.
Antwort von Shiranai:
Why is it never has a disturbed me remains a mystery. I think very few people rely on that on the screen everything absolutely synchronously expires. I am honest it did not noticed the issue before I have read here.
Antwort von Sirius:
@ Jan
Thank you for the detailed answer.
I will probably buy me.
The controls are more important than me
LowLigth the better capability of the new Sony.
Antwort von nachtspion:
@ shiranai: I have often blindly film, which means that the position of the camera quickly changes (at breast height of overhead). As I often do not have the possibility to quickly rotate the display added. What happens now is that I have a head-on event and think the movies filmed in the box to have. In fact, I have perhaps too early umgeschwenkt / off and then it is clearly on the film to see.
It may not have much time to be offset. For my needs, but the camera is not suitable.
Antwort von Jan:
Yes, a fan, I had slight hearing last week.
You hear it but only in quieter surroundings, or if one with the ear is very close to ran. A tonte would be good to get to investigate whether one of the recording sounds somewhat synonymous.
Maybe you can but since the manual was to make sound, the camera has a manual Tonaussteuerung, AGC, Bass DB + 3, + 6 DB, quiet setting. Then there are still the focus and zoom center or surround. More manual actually has no sound in the classroom.
Then the second Quick Menu (s.LCD), where you can quickly adjust important functions immediately without the main menu, for example, there would be resolution, Tonaussteuerung various LCD settings.
The already described setting for quick gain, aperture and shutter and WAG on the LCD is synonymous advantageous - it is now simply faster.
With some companies you have to order the WAG or the shutter set menu only through struggle.
VG
Jan
Antwort von nachtspion:
@ Night spion
These tests do I like about the magazine (yes you can take a look at the video or in the active database Slashcam throw) & or specific users (such as the trunk) ...
Jan In my opinion, but user reviews are more than the tests in magazines. Slashcam says as schelchtes Lowlight, but I have a lot of test reports where the SD300 read Lowlight better behaved than the HF100 s.den day, will certify. I imagine none of the magazines, online or print, they are bought. I work myself but, inter alia, in the media industry and knows exactly how ad sales and test articles or reviews can flow together ...
Your opinion would be yes only one of many! I would never buy a camcorder alone in this opinion based activities, nor would I accuse you s.Ende when the camera stops the thing I expected or promised you did:)
Antwort von Schaub-Movie:
Hello together
I am VERY excited synonymous of this camera, had until now only of Panasonic cameras. I'm glad that such a Panasonic brings to the market, which was already sleepy!
Which camera should you take now? The SD, TM, or the HS Model?
Are the hard disks susceptible to damage and it will be easy via USB as "ext. Harddrive" recognized?
Gruss
hes
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
the TM 300 does not exist for the German and Austrian market, but for Swiss clients. There is an SD 300 with 32 GB built-in internal memory.
On the Internet it is synonymous distributed, but you never stop exactly where she comes from (possible warranty).
The HS 300 will have a hard time because it is not so many customers is likely that about 400 ¬ pay more - just a built-in hard disk to have. Several well-known companies have fast cards for the next few weeks and (Verbatim or San Disk Ultra 32 GB) for about 90 ¬ - synonymous then a 120 GB hard drive redundant.
Panasonic Germany has become synonymous already noticed, and shall, where the price of the HS 300 will soon reduce.
So if you shop in a shop in Austria or Germany, buy the SD 300 is actually the first choice.
Although I have almost only good experiences with hard drive camcorders have made (normal movements when shooting & repair rate), it will not last long anyway give. Ensure the increasingly expectant Prices of flash memory cards.
At Canon Sonyhat or a hard disk camera, but even more sense, because with Canon's 24 MBit / sec mode needs more space, or Sonywith their expensive Memory Stick Pro Duo in the fall is costly.
Is only a matter of time. Canon has been in the lineup 2009er no HDD camera more .....
Normally the camera directly detected, and you can have several functions (eg directly burn directly rüberziehen, Print Photos) via a USB connection realized. I got the HS 300, but had not yet s.PC - because I do not have (because of the 400 ¬ extra charge!).
VG
Jan
Antwort von nachtspion:
Jan. .. you do not want maybe a few times SD300 test video at Vimeo to upload. So the inside shots, etc.? :)
Antwort von Schaub-Movie:
404ERR
Antwort von Sirius:
Since yesterday, I am synonymous proud owner of a SD300.
Unfortunately not yet had much time the Cam to learn more about.
Had once filmed at night in the living room.
The result was OK.
We make Skiiing soon, there will plenty for the Cam
Used.
Let's see how the recordings are in the snow.
Is not the easiest environment for Still Image & Film.
But what I say may be much smaller and the keys
Icons on the LCD and s.der Cam. not be with my sausage fingers!;)
Antwort von lepremier:
Hello,
times I would be interested in how many minutes or hours on a 8GB or 16GB card fit when the best recording quality selection. Can me someone to answer the question?
Greetings!
Antwort von Sirius:
With 16GB about 2 hours at best quality.
Twice as much as my old SonyDigital8 did.
Antwort von lepremier:
Thanks for the quick reply. And approximately how long is the battery life when the camera is filming nonstop? Synonymous times I would be interested. And can the SD300/HS300 without Battery operated, if they connect or s.den electricity load it?
Antwort von Djordji:
Hi,
at my first post in the forum but I just wish all sincerely.
I got my SD300. Unfortunately my experience with different cams to any useful judgments but now I have one days with the Camera rumhantiert and find that they have quite a good impression.
Schlieren in the fast movements I noticed in the manual settings can disappear. Mir is in a test in Lowlight (evening lounge) unpleasantly struck. According to the manual zoom on the same subject with the ring (technical term, I must still learn) these streaks on the monitor when the camera pans no longer be seen. Like everything on the PC looks like I have not tested.
I will tomorrow for some tests with the SD300 because I need s.Freitag was charged a few instructional videos to rotate the camera and I need to know. So if anyone wishes to have only. The upload to Youtube is guaranteed because it belongs to the workflow which I practice.
I now go to the forums regarding search of good microphones, good editing software and rectangular format Welsch.
If anyone has helpful links on this then go on. I will be with his work and Dell Notbook Magix Videodelux know quite well, unfortunately, with the. Mts format is not really clear.
Thanks for the quick reply. And approximately how long is the battery life when the camera is filming nonstop? Synonymous times I would be interested. And can the SD300/HS300 without Battery operated, if they connect or s.den electricity load it? Hi, at Panasonic, you can download the manual and there is everything
http://www.panasonic.de/html/de_DE/44350/index.html#anker_44350
The Battery is the smallest Maximum continuous recording time with 1 h 50 min indicated. models for the next 3 hours 30 minutes and 8 hours 40 min.
The Camera Battery can be synonymous without the power to operate but you can not simultaneously charge the battery and the Camera without power supply used.
Gruss
Djordji
Antwort von Jan:
Yes right here living in the hut, so you can see - with the SD & TM or HS 300 Panasonic has succeeded in throwing a good ....
Schaub @ Movie - For the best quality the camera has a data rate for Sound and Picture with 17 MBit / sec ie 2.125 MB / sec. A Class II card would normally be slow (or just enough). Panasonic and Canon make a Class 4 card when operating in the best quality, because the Class 2 is not always able to guarantee that the 2.125 MB / sec will be managed.
This does not mean, as the San Disk Ultra synonymous only Class II, yes, I've also been enraged with a SanDisk employee entertain ... The Ultra had a few months ago, Class 4, Class 2 and then size it is up to 15 MB / sec! I can hardly write, the card up to 15 MB / sec creates when it actually "only" Class II can (ie 2MB/sek write and read at any time)
The Ultra is the levels, but her speed and should work.
San Disk Extreme cards have the fastest time in class (Class 6), but are exaggerated NEN Tick for these recordings. Perhaps you have with a good computer system, but the data on hard drive faster.
There are unfortunately a lot of cheap companies, even the Class 6 on it, but not even create a Class 4.
Well, the Panasonic cams sign up after about 45 sec-the Canons immediately - if the card is too slow - so it was at least for me.
@ Sirius & Djordji - then good pictures!
@ Spion night - I have very little time in the company synonymous not quite a typical room lighting, but the other two users will certainly test upload videos
VG
Jan
Antwort von Frank B.:
I'm looking for this synonymous. In a test (do not remember where) I read that a light Sirren would occur in the audio. After I read that the camera has a fan, this could be the explanation. I find it quite disturbing that because a fan inside rumwerkelt, where there are other apparently without creating Manufacturer. The could lead to an error source. If he should turn times, burning is likely in that part of the electronics.
That frightens me a bit now from.
Can someone confirm that the audio input sirrendes noise occurs?
Or I have with the fan misunderstood. Air vents alone do not yet close to a fan. They could be synonymous with the temperature over a heat sink exchange serve.
Frank
Antwort von Schaub-Movie:
Yes right here living in the hut, so you can see - with the SD & TM or HS 300 Panasonic has succeeded in throwing a good ....
Schaub @ Movie - For the best quality the camera has a data rate for Sound and Picture with 17 MBit / sec ie 2.125 MB / sec. A Class II card would normally be slow (or just enough). Panasonic and Canon make a Class 4 card when operating in the best quality, because the Class 2 is not always able to guarantee that the 2.125 MB / sec will be managed. Hi Jan, thanks for your answers! Here comes the real life in Bude, the Panasonic camera with your innumerable needs manual settings so you simply have loved;) ... Incidentally, yesterday I had a TM-300 ordered!
Panasonic ... ideas for live
mfg Heinz
Antwort von lepremier:
@ Schaub-Movie
Where did you ordered because the cam if I may ask? somehow I find when google does not really reputable dealer for the cam.
gruß
Antwort von Schaub-Movie:
@ Schaub-Movie
Where did you ordered because the cam if I may ask? somehow I find when google does not really reputable dealer for the cam.
gruß Hello lepremier, in Switzerland, you get only the HS-300 or TM-300! Actually wanted the SD-300, they would get but as synonymous, I would in a case of warranty problems ... so I stop the TM-300 ordered.
mfg Heinz
Antwort von lepremier:
I still think about whether I have the sd300 or hs300 buy. and the TM300 would be a good interim solution. I do not want to always use SDHC cards, SDHC cards because only bad for recordings over the whole tag suitable (for eg time lapse).
Antwort von Jan:
I'm looking for this synonymous. In a test (do not remember where) I read that a light Sirren would occur in the audio. After I read that the camera has a fan, this could be the explanation. I find it quite disturbing that because a fan inside rumwerkelt, where there are other apparently without creating Manufacturer. The could lead to an error source. If he should turn times, burning is likely in that part of the electronics.
That frightens me a bit now from.
Can someone confirm that the audio input sirrendes noise occurs?
Or I have with the fan misunderstood. Air vents alone do not yet close to a fan. They could be synonymous with the temperature over a heat sink exchange serve.
Frank Frank you hear a fan (and that is synonymous with a general not power device for sound problems) - I've not only heard (was not close enough on it). If the ear closer ranbringt you can hear a slight fan noise (aufgeschraubt I have the camera but not yet), the manual was credible, I said nothing about synonymous.
However, it is known that in several Panasonic Cameras Flash memory has a fan installed.
Yes, maybe you can hear in quiet surroundings sssssssss quiet, but did not test. The test magazines have written about nothing ...
Why Panasonic installs a fan, knows only the company. Canon, JVC Sonyunf come from non-synonymous. No idea how much the fan helps Panasonic (processor performance, power consumption etc).
VG
Jan
Antwort von Schaub-Movie:
Hi Jan
Does the fan ever?
The cam can credibly synonymous HD video directly in standard DVD format (. Mpeg or something?) Issue, thought that the fan safe for the hardware encoder in the camera was ...
mfg Heinz
Antwort von sirpwnalot:
Is there any problems when memory cards, of course, fast enough, of Drittanbiertern (such as SanDisk) used?
Antwort von deti:
No, you can even take very cheap (eg http://www.guenstiger.de/gt/main.asp?produkt=802948) - which are probably all from the same factory in China.
Deti
Antwort von sirpwnalot:
No, you can even take very cheap (eg http://www.guenstiger.de/gt/main.asp?produkt=802948) - which are probably all from the same factory in China.
Deti Ok well, thanks.
And I do not necessarily think that so very cheap no-name brands deliver what they promise.
Since then I trust rather SanDisk and ko., Which are maps of the price / performance so much but still better than a piece of the Panasonic.
Antwort von Frank B.:
Thank you, Jan, for the info!
Then I imagine it with the Camera again superior. Such a fan is already scrap. ME has something to nothing in a search. He is a disorder relating to source of the resulting noise, especially as the big danger is that the thing with aging is getting louder. Since you now advertises that the new AVCHD camcorders no more mechanical elements are present, which could wear out (tape drive) and then builds a fan ON. Well!
Frank
Antwort von Jan:
Is there any problems when memory cards, of course, fast enough, of Drittanbiertern (such as SanDisk) used? Well, the American manufacturer SanDisk is the world's number 1!
San Disk has a simple but synonymous cards, for example with the red packaging (Class II), which is not better than the rest
No, I just wanted to mention low-cost operators, since I had last time an 8 GB SDHC card of ******** (German camera manufacturer from the East) where it was Class 6, only the map, even in a Class 4 Panasonic strikes (The Camera said the request for the required 3 MB / sec not succeed). Then, San Disk Ultra-pure - and the camera has no message more, but next to love.
@ Frank - you hardly hear it. Walking times to security in a business of your choice and listen to you personally. Yes the sound is always there, if not synonymous will stop as soon as the camera s.ist.
The SD 9 had a fan synonymous, as far as I know.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Satbär:
[quote = "Jan"] [quote = "Frank B."] I'm looking for this synonymous. In a test (do not remember where) I read that a light Sirren would occur in the audio. After I read that the camera has a fan, this could be the explanation. I find it quite disturbing that because a fan inside rumwerkelt, where there are other apparently without creating Manufacturer. The could lead to an error source. If he should turn times, burning is likely in that part of the electronics.
That frightens me a bit now from.
Can someone confirm that the audio input sirrendes noise occurs?
Or I have with the fan misunderstood. Air vents alone do not yet close to a fan. They could be synonymous with the temperature over a heat sink exchange serve.
Hello,
the manual is the fan on Page 2 above. Let the air vents free. Here is the link: http://dlc.panasonic-europe-service.com/EUDocs/GetDoc.aspx?did=165617&fmt=PDF&lang=de&src=3.
Much worse, however, is the following (see instructions):
1. One should not vases to the equipment.
2. You may not burning candles on the equipment. So no candle as a video light and always take the original accessories.
Regards
Antwort von cb62:
Much worse, however, is the following (see instructions):
1. One should not vases to the equipment.
2. You may not burning candles on the equipment. So no candle as a video light and always take the original accessories.
Regards Haha ...
now I have tea on the keyboard (I am really awake) ;-)
Fan does not scare me, it is a better inside (aka Manufacturer is about), if it can be warm.
Have too many bad experiences with other devices made, where we thought to be able to waive or unterdimensioniert equipped (eg PC, portable, even vacuum cleaners ...)
Just waiting on falling prices for Pana + hopefully synonymous to SDHC memory.
Antwort von lepremier:
me is something in the manual panasonic noticed.
yes I'm playing at the moment with the thought my hs300 to buy. now I read in the manual that the hs300 the hot shoe adapter is not supplied.
Shoe Blitz
(supplied for HDC-SD300/HDCTM300;
not supplied for HDCHS300)
VYC0996
(Manual Page 7)
Now of course I wonder why?
I take so much time that the three models (sd300, TM300 and hs300) to the extent are identical.
the hs300 the schuh vllt. but at the top of the camera or the other reasons? so someone has experience?
gruß
Antwort von Schaub-Movie:
Now of course I wonder why?
I take so much time that the three models (sd300, TM300 and hs300) to the extent are identical.
the hs300 the schuh vllt. but at the top of the camera or the other reasons? so someone has experience?
gruß Hello Lepremier
The SD300 & TM300 are identical, the HS300 HD is synonymous with a zoom lever. The flash shoe at the HS300 is at the top behind the Microphone integrated! (See Manual Page 16/Pos.26 - Picture 1,2 & 3)
Or:
Antwort von lepremier:
ah, then the whole does a meaningful. this is me not even noticed. thank you for that.
Antwort von Jan:
Thanks Satbär - did not read the instructions, but probably correctly located.
VG
Jan
Antwort von frane28:
Hi folks
Have been 1 1 / 2 years, the SD1, a very good part!
Because I watch videos, corporate events, family occasions and weddings do, I looked at the SD300 increased.
My first impression:
The handling is easier and faster
Lowlight For my SD1 is just as good as the SD300.
Weissableich goes in all modes, Manual synonymous, in the direction of blue-green, which means silver colors are bluish.
Photos in the Photo mode, you can not 10.6M with a 10M Fotoklipse compare. (Image noise)
What s.meisten stöhrt me is if I s.TV results fast times and wants to see some nonsense like to be able to delete before I started with Pinn. cut, I notice that the firmware of an older model must come as features such as joystick and buttons to light the camera does not have (my SD1 has joystick, the SD300 has Tuchscreen and Quick Launch bar)?
I hope that the "too early to buy" and once to update, upgrade or can, I'm a little disappointed that Panasonic Cams those in the trade there !!!!!!!
Antwort von sirpwnalot:
So I've now synonymous today ordered the SD 300 and am very excited.
Antwort von lepremier:
so here we read of more and more buyers;).
I am the way, then reihe mal ein.
've just bought my new hs300. now follows just the most exciting part of the sale - the unpacking;).
Antwort von byps:
Hello Forum!
Now follow this thread since the start of the opinions and wishes of the SD300 after I've added yesterday, want to know if there is a need for snow shots too use?
Or whether the camera settings enough?
Incidentally, the fan is synonymous in my opinion, barely audible!
Overall impression: Great (but is not synonymous difficult since I am now one of only about 9 years old converted SonyDCR 110 am).
Impressive: handling of files with the included software:
Burn directly to DVD than BD and may be directly on the PS3 to play! and in the context (the individual clips are played one after the other)
Gruss
Rolf
Antwort von Frank B.:
Incidentally, the fan is synonymous in my opinion, barely audible!
That is what is not.
My questions are:
- Is it synonymous in five years, barely audible? (Fans are usually with
age louder because of mechanical wear)
- Burns at a possible mechanical failure of this part of the electronics
by?
- Has the fan effect on the recorded audio sound? (Tests
report of a sirrenden Begleitton in the audio stream)
The fan, I see as a problem factor synonymous when he barely notices when new.
Frank
Antwort von byps:
@ Frank
a "noise sirrendes" I have not been registered. But suppose that the fact is that the fan only when heated by the Camera anspringt. When this is the case, then you will probably see more in the summer, I guess.
Basically your argument is certainly justified. But who knows what will be in 5 years ;-)
I now enjoy the first part!
Regards
Rolf
Antwort von Rolf Hankel:
Hello Forum!
Now follow this thread since the start of the opinions and wishes of the SD300 after I've added yesterday, want to know if there is a need for snow shots too use?
Or whether the camera settings enough?
Incidentally, the fan is synonymous in my opinion, barely audible!
Overall impression: Great (but is not synonymous difficult since I am now one of only about 9 years old converted SonyDCR 110 am).
Impressive: handling of files with the included software:
Burn directly to DVD than BD and may be directly on the PS3 to play! and in the context (the individual clips are played one after the other)
Gruss
Rolf Hello
How is this with the fans when the Cam in a UNDERWATER HOUSING is yes then there's only one air circulation instead.
Gruss Rolf ...
Antwort von byps:
@ Rolf Underwater
if the fan only at higher temperatures start, then that is certainly not under water theme - I guess times.
Aaber how broadly written: CIH only guess that is thermally controlled.
Anyway, you can see a close look at whether EER sicht rotates or not.
In my tests has not yet rotated.
Rolf
Antwort von byps:
Fan!
Sorry guys, thought you could see! was a fallacy.
I can confirm that really silence, de fan is heard when the ear tuned directly holds.
Turn on recording the Leutstärke an extremely high höhrt is synonymous here Sirren already described.
Personally, this bothers me at first was not.
Antwort von Schaub-Movie:
Hi folks
Have been 1 1 / 2 years, the SD1, a very good part!
Hello frane28
You've been 1 1 / 2 years, the SD1, as I know so synonymous has a fan!
What looks so after 1 1 / 2 years ...
- He has become louder?
- You can hear this in audio?
mfg Heinz
Antwort von nachtspion:
@ HDC-owner: Why does it not even a little test shoot and presents them to the networks so that the other a picture of them can do.
Lowlight would be super.
Strange already HF S10 footage can be found, but none of the HDC SD / HS / TM 300
Antwort von WuB2009:
Hi,
Up next in the thread has the option of MPEG-2 576i PAL output mentioned. Even though it should surprise some people here: The interest to me. What does that mean exactly? The fact that the recording in lower - not "HD" resolution - will be played on? In the MPEG 2 format? As an AVI?
The background: I want the camera, among other things for web videos. Since a low enough Resolutionja completely. The MPEG 2 PAL 576i output but should actually be much more comfortable in an editing software to edit than AVCHD - or I understand something wrong?
Many greetings
Burkhardt
Antwort von Jan:
Fan!
I can confirm that in real silence, de fan is heard when the ear tuned directly holds.
. Sag ich doch!
@ WuB2009 - just for users like you, Panasonic has incorporated this feature. If a smaller Resolutiongewünscht, but conversion to a later time or compute-intensive, which gives equal Camera MPEG 720x576, which is synonymous Calculator pleased, especially when he is older. In general, 1080i material which is 720x576 rausgegeben - synonymous better than gleichaufgezeichnetes 720x576.
Canon does not stand on this issue to existing HDD and Flash devices, Panasonic synonymous not afraid, only Sony can there ever actually.
VG
Jan
Antwort von gkiphard:
I am particularly interested in whether the sd 300 at movements of the camera when shooting unsharp aufweist. How sharp are the images, like the colors of course what would you say to sd300 now or wait for the canon of legriamodelle or another model?
Antwort von Jan:
With blurred one must be careful.
They can synonymous, 25 P mode for Canon, or wenns Schliereffekte to go from not 100 Hz LCD Television.
Canon is no longer so easily, as in the last year. Since they had so nearly alone. The very limited manual SonyXR 500 (but bombs Lowlight for this class) or 300 of the XX are the Panasonic S 10 & 100 heavily reattach. It's like Formula 1, because I see no clear favorite.
Video Active had the S 10 & 100 in the test, and an over-flying, it is not synonymous.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Jan:
[When blurs one must be careful.
They can synonymous, 25 P mode for Canon, or wenns Schliereffekte to go from not 100 Hz LCD Television.
Canon is no longer so easily, as in the last year. Since they had so nearly alone. The very limited manual SonyXR 500 (but bombs Lowlight for this class) or 300 of the XX are the Panasonic S 10 & 100 heavily reattach. It's like Formula 1, because I see no clear favorite.
Video Active had the S 10 & 100 in the test, and an over-flying, it is not synonymous.
VG
Jan
Antwort von partylogger:
Why Panasonic offers no TM300 in Germany? If we believe once again that the Germans did it with us and schröpft models circumcised?
I have now with my TM300 UK-trust order. It cost me about 960 euros and is therefore priced on the SD300 in Germany, but with built in 32GB flash memory.
Good, with warranty, it is probably harder, but I have never had problems and toitoitoi, I hope it remains so synonymous.
Antwort von Schlingel:
Good, with warranty, it is probably difficult Why?
Because you need
Antwort von partylogger:
Good, with warranty, it is probably difficult
Why?
Because you need
Antwort von Schlingel:
Good, with warranty, it is probably difficult
Why?
Because you need
Antwort von byps:
What does it with extra batteries?
If you absolutely original take?
Gruss byps
PS:
Had synonymous to use for Snow asked: Necessary?
Antwort von Jan:
Why Panasonic offers no TM300 in Germany? If we believe once again that the Germans did it with us and schröpft models circumcised?
I have now with my TM300 UK-trust order. It cost me about 960 euros and is therefore priced on the SD300 in Germany, but with built in 32GB flash memory.
Good, with warranty, it is probably harder, but I have never had problems and toitoitoi, I hope it remains so synonymous.
As Panasonic says (rightly) that especially in Germany, the Flash memory like a 16 or 32 GB cards are extremely cheap rausgehauen. Then it is not worth 200 ¬ more for the same camera with built-in memory of 32 GB that if the 32 GB card for 100 ¬ here is a loss ..
In other countries you get no brand card Class 4 o'clock-2 o'clock for 5 ¬ GB or 4 GB for ¬ 8.
That is the reason.
Canon goes double, but synonymous remembers that as a HF 100 sold much better than a 10 HF with built memory - at least in Germany.
About VBG external battery, there are a lot of trouble so far, I have no known foreign manufacturers found. Let's see .....
VG
Jan
Antwort von partylogger:
Why Panasonic offers no TM300 in Germany? If we believe once again that the Germans did it with us and schröpft models circumcised?
I have now with my TM300 UK-trust order. It cost me about 960 euros and is therefore priced on the SD300 in Germany, but with built in 32GB flash memory.
Good, with warranty, it is probably harder, but I have never had problems and toitoitoi, I hope it remains so synonymous.
As Panasonic says (rightly) that especially in Germany, the Flash memory like a 16 or 32 GB cards are extremely cheap rausgehauen. Then it is not worth 200 ¬ more for the same camera with built-in memory of 32 GB that if the 32 GB card for 100 ¬ here is a loss ..
In other countries you get no brand card Class 4 o'clock-2 o'clock for 5 ¬ GB or 4 GB for ¬ 8.
That is the reason.
Canon goes double, but synonymous remembers that as a HF 100 sold much better than a 10 HF with built memory - at least in Germany.
About VBG external battery, there are a lot of trouble so far, I have no known foreign manufacturers found. Let's see .....
VG
Jan
Maybe yes, but still costs the TM300 in other countries as much as for us an SD300, so the 32GB of internal memory quasi-free.
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Antwort von Jan:
The Ultra is the levels, but her speed and should work.
The Panasonic SD 300 is the San Disk Ultra fast enough, synonymous in the best mode HA 1920th Hab ca 23 min s.Stück filmed - no message.
The Ultra is but strangely at the Canon models too slow at 24 Mbit / sec (3 MB / sec) mode means the camera - card is too slow ..... So true, the Class II on the packaging, durable 3 MB / sec, it can not guarantee, slightly higher than Class II 17MBit/sek like in the SD 300 but it already.
VG
Jan
Antwort von frane28:
Schaub Hello-Movie
To your question because the fan noise of the SD1. The fan runs constantly so as the new, was worse than the noise now, but for my applications absolutely not annoying ambient noise predominate, but when you are in quiet surroundings will make special recordings, you'll probably hear it, the firmware of the SD300 bother me any more appropriate.
Greetings Franz
Antwort von lepremier:
hallo frane28,
my hs300 I have no joystick errors "discovered when they yuv s.meinen lcd was connected. you can vllt. explain why, when something is readable of joystick or where the error occurs?
Antwort von Ricotchet:
Hi I have increased the SD 200 and found that the fan is inaudible on the recording synonymous.
I would be interested in how the sd 300 in relationships.
Can someone with a sd 300 please upload a video in absolute silence?
Thank you
Antwort von Jan:
The fan of the SD 300, one hears only in extremely quiet atmosphere, you might think - Canon Sony and friends want to make the model poorly. Several magazines have test the fan with None mention, not according to their synonymous tonte.
Panasonic synonymous stressed that, if the fan no immediate damage are observed. It provides cooling, but is not Hilfsystem where other components by a failure of fans to affect.
This is clearly organized panic.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Frank B.:
Nee, Jan, this is not scaremongering. I'm as synonymous not a fan of any company, although I actually currently a Sonyhabe - no fan.
I'm s.der SD 300 very interested and would like to buy me, why should I then want to do bad?
Nevertheless, I can not so quickly on the fans remain.
Times I want briefly to some statements of which you (your statements as quotes):
"The fan of the SD 300, one hears only in extremely quiet atmosphere ..."
So you can hear him! How quiet it must be that he hears? What is extremely quiet? I have out back and take a recording made of a classical concert. As ever, it is extremely quiet.
Several magazines have test the fan with None mention, not according to their synonymous tonte. "
Test in active video 03/09 p. 35: "Disturbing made a steady Sirren noticeable, the more noticed than the background noise of the Canon" (NB: Comparison Test with Canon HF S 10)
I am convinced that Sirren goes back to the fan.
"Panasonic synonymous stressed that, if the fan no immediate damage to be observed."
What does please no immediate damage? How does the part because, until damage occurs, 10 minutes, or maybe 3 days or 3 months?
"He cares for cooling, but is not Hilfsystem where other components by a failure of fans to affect."
And what is that supposed to say now? What is a cooler, if not a support system? What should the fans because if it does not help? When, through no failure of the fan components break down, why you cool then? They would then have to omit him synonymous.
Sorry, because I can not see panic. I think these are legitimate questions and criticisms.
I will in any case wait a little longer with the Purchase and here are a couple of experiences await.
Frank
Antwort von eschek01:
Hello and good evening,
had me on the basis of the discussion, here at Slashcam, the HS 300 increased. Yes, admittedly, I'm really an amateur film, but by very long experience in digital photography (Nikon D700 at the moment) I think the quality of an image can be assessed. And what the SD 300 delivers is mildly expressed haarstäubend. Sharpness, Color performanceect. Even after several tuning attempts. Will the Camera fastest possible sale.
Antwort von partylogger:
Hello and good evening,
had me on the basis of the discussion, here at Slashcam, the HS 300 increased. Yes, admittedly, I'm really an amateur film, but by very long experience in digital photography (Nikon D700 at the moment) I think the quality of an image can be assessed. And what the SD 300 delivers is mildly expressed haarstäubend. Sharpness, Color performanceect. Even after several tuning attempts. Will the Camera fastest possible sale.
Do you have the comparison only to digital DSLR synonymous or you have an opinion / comparison to other HD camcorders in the field?
I am still on my TM300, which in the coming days to arrive. I'm anxious times like these from my perception to a HV30 or HG21 proposes. I should not read. Meanwhile I'm already skeptical about whether I with the TM300 the right decision.
Antwort von numeris:
... through a very long experience in digital photography (Nikon D700 at the moment) I think the quality of an image can be assessed. And what the SD 300 delivers is mildly expressed haarstäubend. Sharpness, Color performanceect. Even after several tuning attempts. Will the Camera fastest possible sale.
DSLR images with HD video, you can not compare, but moves at the Picture. Did you compare with other cameras, even footage from the web download?
Antwort von eschek01:
Yes, sorry, I see stop with the Camera Raw's. If you have the material in FCE you come together to process the tears ... A pity, I thought we were already there next. Whether because the EX1 / 3 funzt better? Or maybe on the next generation of HD capable cameras to wait? So it will be sobering for me
Antwort von numeris:
Yes, sorry, I see stop with the Camera Raw's. If you have the material in FCE you come together to process the tears ... A pity, I thought we were already there next. Whether because the EX1 / 3 funzt better? Or maybe on the next generation of HD capable cameras to wait? So it will be sobering for me
I had had personal problems with the poor quality of super-8-cilium pictures. And then the analog amateur video stuff was synonymous rather Augenkatarrh-facilitator. I stayed the whole time for photos, SLR with Canon FD lenses, which were super sharp. Since 2004, movies I DV. If half is acceptable, my SonyDCR-TRV60 was synonymous not quite cheap. Now, I plan to switch to HD (V) and synonymous know not yet. Today I saw a camera tapes SonyFX1000, this is great quality, especially in the interior of a church - overwhelming. But not synonymous with photography booth to compare this should you already have a cine-camera of 50,000 to 200,000 euros herumschieben.
If you have a similar quality in Con-/Prosumer-Bereich want to wait, you will today and tomorrow can not be filmed. http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/digitales-fernsehen-hdtv-hdv-avchd-f%C3%BCr-ein--and-umsteiger/1018079 there s.Schluß an outlook of the book - perhaps in 20 years you have the quality that you are looking for. Now maybe meet 3000 Euro Cams synonymous, unless you absolutely want the memory card and money is essential for the Sony card to spend.
Gruß, numeris
Antwort von Jan:
Hello and good evening,
had me on the basis of the discussion, here at Slashcam, the HS 300 increased. Yes, admittedly, I'm really an amateur film, but by very long experience in digital photography (Nikon D700 at the moment) I think the quality of an image can be assessed. And what the SD 300 delivers is mildly expressed haarstäubend. Sharpness, Color performanceect. Even after several tuning attempts. Will the Camera fastest possible sale.
That is exactly the problem, the D 700 is at least one EX 3 (if you can compare) and not a consumer no preference whether Canon, Sony, or the 300th HS Since we had a world of difference synonymous of Vollformatchip a Nikon and the 1 / 4, 1 "of the Panasonic MOS.
This could be compared, as if you have a 3l car has 250 hp and a 90 hp with 1.4er too lame holds ....
The HS 300 is undoubtedly in the class! a powerful camera.
VG
Jan
Antwort von lepremier:
synonymous, I must say that the hs300 makes super sharp images. Before buying, I have a lot of value to the sharpness of the picture or put a lot of depth and camcorder images compared. I was just about me a canon HF10 cheap to buy. but could just as fidgety my finger under control. I found a great shame then that the HS100 as bad in sachen has cropped image.
Now, after I first test images shot with the hs300, I, as expected, perfect image quality and sharpness of conviction.
zum thema sirren I have found nothing. nature have previously made recordings. the pictures are really very impressive. the camcorder I can really recommend to anyone. something better, there are currently not included in this price range. and it is certainly in the near time synonymous not exist.
photo in the new digital video camcorder is the 3 way, synonymous tested. sony 1st, panasonic 2, canon 3rd . what makes me s.dem test surprising is the fact that the sony camcorder in sachen equipment have 100 points and the panasonic "only" 86 although I do not really synonymous to assess how well equipped is sony or what funktiionen are selected. bin of the functional diversity of HS30 in any event enthusiastically.
As gesgat, I recommend everyone camcorder.
Antwort von Jan:
Yes, Sonyfreut itself nicely with the XR test winner with 520 chip? Still Image & Video 05.09.
Well, if it is for the equipment was 100 points, that is not quite understandable. Besides GPS and a good LCD, the camera almost nothing special. In Lowlight is strong, but with equipment that has not much to do.
Which already has a focus on tracking objects and not just faces? Object and tap the Camera is not the object at rest and logs even when the object disappears and where.
Panasonic amazing what the camera has reingepackt.
The demand for SD 300 is great, Panasonic is expected to soon supply problems (except they have expected, because I do not get cameras is probably not the case).
A little disappointed, I am of Canon HF 10 & S 100, the 2008 models were so strong.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Schaub-Movie:
synonymous, I must say that the hs300 makes super sharp images ... bin of the functional diversity of HS30 in any event enthusiastically.
Hello Lepremier
Thank you for your report about the Panasonic 300! Tomorrow I can pick up at my TM300 ... juhui:) and I s.Freitag Holidays, Great timing!
mfg Heinz
Antwort von lepremier:
well well, the test should be possible not to take seriously of chip foto video. chip remains flat chip;). but a little disappointed I was anyway, since the sony note the very good and the panasonic only well received.
but what is the hammer:
the new sony is in the ranking at number 2 resulted from the Canon XH-A1E. and which surely can not be. on a space-4, then the hs300, incidentally:).
panasonic really seems to have supply problems. it's still relatively difficult s.reguläre dt ware ran.
Antwort von Schaub-Movie:
panasonic really seems to have supply problems. it's still relatively difficult s.reguläre dt ware ran.
Hello Lepremier
The sales launch in Switzerland was announced by April 09, the day my camera too! Everything seems to be well specified, look forward to the Cam, had previously always been Panasonic cameras.
Good film, I wish ...
mfg Heinz
Antwort von sirpwnalot:
well well, the test should be possible not to take seriously of chip foto video. chip remains flat chip;). but a little disappointed I was anyway, since the sony note the very good and the panasonic only well received.
but what is the hammer:
the new sony is in the ranking at number 2 resulted from the Canon XH-A1E. and which surely can not be. on a space-4, then the hs300, incidentally:).
panasonic really seems to have supply problems. it's still relatively difficult s.reguläre dt ware ran.
The problems with the delivery, I can only confirm that my SD 300 only comes in about 3-4 weeks and I already have a wait.
What disadvantages (eg Garatie) one has actually over the internet when the TM 300 ordered in Germany do not exist.
Because many are still more available.
Antwort von Jan:
In Munich, it is half sold out, synonymous known retailers often have no good anymore.
I run the client synonymous to Bude, a customer wanted to take two (since when gibts denn sowas?). Economic downturn? Probably not for Panasonic.
Panasonic has always been accommodating, even with gray. Therefore, Panasonic will award a 1 year old synonymous worldwide warranty, although if they come from any pirate's nest comes from Africa?
In the worst case, you send to Switzerland, when a case arises warranty, so legally, but I think not. For the safety of times in the Pansonic demand service centers
PSC
VG
Jan
Antwort von lepremier:
I would be interested in what times the average semi-program like sony vegas pro, for the sd/hs300 acceptable. on the sony vegas pro side is yes, unfortunately that AVCHD files of panasonic camcorder in 1920x1080 are not compatible. is not exactly synonymous praiseworthy because sony panasonic yes, together with the AVCHD codec developed by: /.
[code: 1:525 a8d93d0] Added support for reading 1920x1080 AVCHD video. 1920x1080 AVCHD files created by Panasonic camcorders are not currently supported. [/ Code: 1:525 a8d93d0] (source page:
Antwort von RickyMartini:
Movie Studio 9 Platinum has no problem with the PanaClips (NTSC material have thus been tested). The Canopus AVCHD - is synonymous with the material clean easily.
For, however Edius NEO Edius 4.x or necessary.
Antwort von partylogger:
Finally, first recording times of individuals in the network:
Here recordings with the TM300:
http://www.vimeo.com/3888195
http://www.vimeo.com/3903716
Antwort von Shiranai:
Here is a test of the HS300:
Antwort von Schaub-Movie:
Hello
Have since Thursday TM300, until now, I am enthusiastic of the Camera! Q. The menu is very handy, but I am still plenty s.ausprobieren camera. For my taste, the camera a little larger, as some of the GS500. From the fan, I have yet heard nothing in my shots.
Questions:
- Have you synonymous HDWriter V 1.0 here? Is synonymous yes the 2 or the 2.6 version ...
- Has someone experience with external batteries, for example, Replace? I read that the battery time remaining is not displayed ...
mfg Heinz
Antwort von lepremier:
hello-movie Schaub,
my hs300 is synonymous with hdwriter 1.0. but it does not bother me, because I do not use the program anyway.
alien to batteries, I can say nothing. I will be me, but only original batteries for the camcorder to buy. manufacturers do not trust strangers;).
gruß
Antwort von Jan:
The SD 300 is now synonymous in Germany fully available ...
VG
Jan
Antwort von Schaub-Movie:
hello-movie Schaub,
my hs300 is synonymous with hdwriter 1.0. but it does not bother me, because I do not use the program anyway ...
Hello Lepremier
On the SD Card are the films. Mts, when I'm with the import HDWriter are. M2ts files ... what is the difference?
Antwort von deti:
There is no difference in the file.
Deti
Antwort von lepremier:
can be synonymous in. "mpg" and rename it runs:)
Antwort von Jan:
MTS are just the Rohateien, some information about the stream can be found on other files. Therefore, each program does not equal the MTS file. Is a little like VRO files.
The Panasonic program adds the MTS with the auxiliary files created and believe that a m2ts file.
VG
Jan
Antwort von sirpwnalot:
I now order my SD 300 canceled and instead a model TM 300 EU ordered what is deliverable.
I hope I have therefore no disadvantages (warranty, etc.) to have.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
You've certainly accurately predict inquired?
Antwort von Jan:
I had my mustard s.02.04.09 already written. Since even a Panasonic 1 year worldwide warranty (; else makes almost no video producers) offer, there should be no problems. Europe warranty is 2 years at Panasonic.
Although one hears of disgruntled customers with the underwater camera SW 20, but I have otherwise only with Panasonic will receive fair treatment, and that applies to my own products of Panasonic synonymous and that of my clients (at least as far as I know this).
VG
Jan
Antwort von clacker:
If the audio level s.Screen displayed?
Antwort von Jan:
Yes and no, depends s.in which mode you are.
VG
Jan
Antwort von sirpwnalot:
Hello,
hab gestern my TM 300 Panasonic get.
As far as everything works perfectly, have only one problem with the adapter for the shoe accessories:
When I try to like in the instructions in the camera is stuck on the very difficult and we almost did not get him out more.
Has someone experiences / problems with the SD / TM 300?
Antwort von clacker:
Yes and no, depends s.in which mode you are.
VG
Jan
I get no NEN Level mode to see ....
what I do wrong?
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
is somewhat confused. I'm trying something out of my memory, the camera because I do not stand before me have.
i. A (intelligent auto) mode - no meter
In Auto mode - but not usually - in the manual mode, AGC (Auto Gain Control) to choose among Tonoptionen (touch screen) and return to manual mode and leave in the car mode, the Level s.sofort, although there is no manual Tonveränderungen can make (except the 3 special functions Surround, 2 channel and .....)
VG
Jan
Antwort von Frank B.:
How do you control and that because the sound from? Or does it not?
Frank
Antwort von MaTsE:
Hi,
I do not know whether its right =).... am
since its week I broke the HDC-HS300 ... is almost the same quasi-CAM ....
Proper recordings I have not done, comes s.Weekend * freu *
But the settings I am still net so sure:
ham what the boys of Pana at the image level thought ...
HA, HG, HX and DB
ich habs mal auf HA, because according to this manual promises the best quality ....
But what exactly are the steps?
I will try it aufjedenflall and am curious whether I accept or s.Plasma differences s.PC!
Vlcht is already someone smarter?
lg
Mats
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
i in A or auto mode you can not always disqualify manual, this function is then locked. However, the camera following the switch from manual mode with a Choice Tonveränderung then synonymous in the Auto mode level.
In manual mode is a manual Tonaussteuerung already there in the Tonmenü setup or directly on the touch screen with the function key and then select the top.
HA, HG, HX and U?
Hold different data rates and resolutions - depending on the customer's request.
One needs the best motion representation, another would prefer smaller files with slightly poorer performance.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Frank B.:
Hi Jan,
So man. Audio Control is! And you can see the display is synonymous? This is apparent from your posting did not show.
What should because a display in automatic mode and manual mode s.Ende missing. That would be a nasty bug.
Frank
Antwort von Jan:
In manual Tonaussteuerung the level will naturally appear.
In Auto mode, but usually not, unless you have previously visited the manual mode, and selects AGC setup and go into auto mode (where there is no AGC & Setup, then Auto Gain Control & manual Tonaussteuerung there) and lo and behold now is at once synonymous of Level in Auto mode (the mode in which you do not activate) - this is probably a bug but a nice.
In A mode i does nothing.
I would prefer but otherwise presented in the menu of choice - Tonpegelanzeige yes / no in all modes - but Panasonic would probably not.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Frank B.:
Yes, thank you Jan! I was somewhat irritated clack of statement, that he in no mode Tonaussteuerungsanzeige get to see. So now it's in 2 modes. More I did not want to know - for now. Thank you for your inquiry. Manual Austeuerung with meter in manual mode from enough for me. In the negative case, I would have probably the Camera of my wishlist deleted. So first thing, although I do not really have the built hinwegkomme fan. But this has already been enough written. What one else reads it, is quite convincing in the price range.
Frank
Antwort von Jan:
Error - Error .....
That's when something like this from memory recounts.
So now again.
In iA mode, there is no manual and Tonaussteuerung not synonymous meter.
When auto mode, you can see by the menu, choose manual Tonaussteuerung that conjures synonymous then a level indicator on the LCD, the Quick Menu (LCD) you can but in this mode, no manual Tonaussteuerung choose only the menu.
In the menu you can manually via menu or via the Quick Menu button Tonaussteuerung select manual, then there is a level indicator synonymous.
Yes dear user correctly without manual Tonaussteuerung there is no mode offers a level indicator. You can at least still Tonaussteuerung manual (setup for Panasonic) + AGC select how the camera next to the manual specified level still make small changes.
It's a little strange, you should probably at the automatic level adjustment with meter None resign - because you stop mode in which nothing can change eh ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von Bruchi:
Bin a few days since the SD300 owners synonymous.
This forum was not entirely innocent s.meiner purchase ;-)
However, I have no HD environment. A camera purchase was due as early and I stop at the Cam with HD on. Now to my question: Can I HDWriter with the recordings, which were the highest quality, dubbing on the same PC in order to convert mpeg2 with PinnacleStudio 9 Edit them?
Did the original files ever being done, but the shakes in my computer a bit too weak performance when viewing with the HDWriter. Or is there another way with little effort my old Studio 9 to bring into play?
VG
Bruchi
Antwort von Jan:
I have the software with the new SD 300 has not yet been employed.
The older SD XXX Writer Software Programs, the HD signals to MPEG-2 convert PAL signals, but not HD MPEG 4 to MPEG 2 HD.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Bruchi:
Thanks for the reply first, but I am still in search of a simple solution to the conversion of AVCHD to MPEG 2nd Who has ne idea, please register.
I have yet another question s.Alle, synonymous to the HDC-SD 300 have:
I do not know whether it is the beginning of s.war, but a few days ago I noticed that the camera's off, the front-and back to move a little rattle. Is switched on to hear nothing. I suspect that it is in the range of the lens comes to these noises. Has anyone found the same? Tomorrow I will be times when dealers ne inquiry.
LG
Bruchi
Antwort von Jan:
If normal - optical stabilizer.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Thanks for the reply first, but I am still in search of a simple solution to the conversion of AVCHD to MPEG 2nd Who has ne idea, please register.
Go easy with Pinnacle Studio 12 Pros (; Ultimate):
1. CLISP AVCHD on the timeline set
2. As with MPEG-2 HD 35-50Mbit / s herausrendern.
3. The MPEG2-HD file into the timeline and load scene detection by content and by next edit
Of course, always the correct setting to create the project.
Antwort von Sirius:
Thanks for the reply first, but I am still in search of a simple solution to the conversion of AVCHD to MPEG 2nd Who has ne idea, please register.
LG
Bruchi
When the Camera is a software which can be!
Antwort von Jan:
AVCHD in 576i PAL MPEG 2 yes - but truly synonymous in AVCHD High Definition MPEG 2?
Was at least its predecessors with the supplied software.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Bruchi:
AVCHD to Mpeg2 I would already suffice. Only I have the included software for this option is not (yet) found. That it should go, I have already read here in the forum. Vielle. somebody has a hint of the software as I say ;-).
LG
Bruchi
Antwort von Jan:
I have this function with the SD 100 or SD 9 (, I now no longer just what exactly was the type) tested.
The software could then from the AVCHD files, 720x576i PAL MPEG 2 files and then burn to a DVD.
The quality, however, was more than modest.
So anyway, I would a real editing program to buy (; Cyperlink, Edius Neo, Pinnacle etc) there is better.
The synonymous SD 300 has a selectable MPEG 2 PAL edition 720x576i (; via USB), which would have been rich but synonymous.
As I write but a convert with the software or in the Camera of 1080 AVCHD to MPEG 2 1080 unknown. The software converts Magix eg MPEG 2 in the same order, so that they with the data is reasonably clear.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Bruchi:
Hi Jan,
once again many thanks for your answer!
Hab meantime mailed synonymous with Panasonic, where you informed me that the transformation by enclosed software until after the transfer was possible.
Since I've worked with Pinnacle Studio9 have, I ask myself the 12er version to purchase. A test version I've already viewed, wg. Lack of time but not intensive.
I have the feeling that you are in the field of Filmerei are quite versed, so I ask thee times right after you think about the program?
Synonymous, but you mentioned the possibility of the camera directly via USB into Mpeg2 output. The function I have not found, but at the same time the search go.
Maybe you're NEN tip where I can adjust.
Thanks in advance!
VG
Bruchi
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
on digicams, video cameras and SLRs, I know "quite" a lot (; synonymous should be yes as the seller), the field but I'm ne zero. Some of the main Programs and Keyfacts I know but, at the detail & aid operation, but looks bad.
This is because my home computer is very slow, and I do not have much time for intensive voted.
Pinnacle Studio 12 is quite popular for AVCHD (and while rechenaufwendig but tradable good), Cyperlink Programs are but here in the forum is very popular, industry number-1-Magix when AVCHD editing but very often criticized.
Studio 12 has just completed a well-run operation May:
Video Active
Panasonic advertises big with the direct MPEG-2 720x576 PAL output via USB, I've not yet tested. This had the SD 300 before long no Panasonic Camera. We should be in the playback menu to find exits.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
there was a pair of inconsistencies in the press releases.
In the first press was the speech of MPEG 2 output directly with the SD 300, now it was written (; synonymous to the data sheets) with the direct burner VW BN 1, which was but the first with data sheets do not specify.
Previously:
MPEG-2 Output: yes
Meanwhile:
MPEG2 output: yes (; with VW Brenner BN 1)
Yes, there is no camera in MPEG2 Skip edition, I'm through the menu again.
In the manual back in the software sector is the MPEG 2 (; 720x576 PAL) with the included conversion software.
What is completely lost on this camera is the slow motion function in photo mode.
There are either --
50 B / sec with 1280x720 pixels, or 25 B / sec with 1920x1080 pixels - 3 seconds is possible. The 60 or 30 B / s refer to the Japanese & American Model.
VG
Jan
Antwort von segelmusik:
Good Report. I have a Panasonic HDC-SD 300 on a 2-week sailing trip and it had a review written:
http://www.inpos.de/videoequipment.html
All in all a great part!
Have fun reading
Antwort von Bruchi:
Hello,
What is completely lost on this camera is the slow motion function in photo mode.
There are either --
50 B / sec with 1280x720 pixels, or 25 B / sec with 1920x1080 pixels - 3 seconds is possible. The 60 or 30 B / s refer to the Japanese & American Model.
VG
Jan
Where can I find it?? Have the menu at times searched but found no evidence.
Greeting
Bruchi
Edit: Habs found .... It is called "high-speed burst mode" (; Bed.Anl. P. 74)
Antwort von segelmusik:
Bruchi has written that he thinks at Studio 12 upgrade. Trying it out a trial version of Vegas, and look at my personal experience;
http://www.inpos.de/videoequipment.html
Because of this decision process is synonymous described. The Highspeed Burst mode is limited to S 74 and at 3 seconds. Power frame. So no wiekliche slow motion function.
Antwort von Bruchi:
Your personal experience, I have been very interested in yesterday and read it right under my favorite store!
But I think in the description of the time lapse function, you have to
"2 leaves to slow motion" rather Time Lapse meant, right?
Vegas invite me grad werds times down and then I look at it.
Studio12 was my favorite because I have with Studio 9 was very satisfied with the cut of MiniDV. Unfortunately I have the trial version of Studio12 is not really free, since I 3 days after the first Runterladen'm on vacation there. However, a clean playing of my AVCHD with approximately 1 year old 2.4 dual core it is not possible. I will begin to convert AVCHD to Mpeg2, because I always have no other devices have FullHD.
VG
Bruchi
Antwort von Jan:
I had already mentioned, this is the slow motion function to act only 3 sec.
The function can be found in photo mode, ie, 50 images in one second with 1280x720er Written resolution.
Many pure video cameras in the consumer class, the 50 frames (frames) per second can (I call times like Canon or JVC - it looks bad), there is not. Samsung and Sony have their slow motion function, the resolution is only at around 640x480 Rather.
It was holding a lot about the time lapse function (ie, all the few sec & min A Picture record) have been reported, but the slow motion feature is under the table like, so I call them again. The SD 300 is really an "all artists", if it is synonymous better slow for the money there (eg Casio digicams).
VG
Jan
Antwort von segelmusik:
Jan, dnake for the hint, the slow motion try for the moment the camera is blocked just because they filmed the wine growing (1 Picture / minute) to see what of it is.
From the slow motion with 50 B / s (ie, half-speed) Can you make sure what, if this software has not yet made between each picture that have interpolated. Where gibts sowas cheap or free?
