Newsmeldung von slashCAM: Test video of the new SonyHVR-V1U of rudi - 21 Sep 2006 12:11:00 Douglas Spotted Eagle on digitally producer describes his first impressions of the new SonyHVR-V1U, the professional version of the SonyHDR-FX7. Particularly interesting is a first Testclip (link is at the bottom of the page), which should show, among other things, with much thought Vorschusslorbeeren 24p functionality of the camera. Since this is an NTSC model, but you can not see how 1080p25 Sonyeinen stream writes in the 1080i50 format. Instead, you get a pull on the face (as synonymous mentioned in the article). However, for a first impression of interest ...
Antwort von Cocoa.de:
I can only write again and again that the camera manufacturers go the wrong way! What nutz 1080 24 / p, if the chip is so small that the depth of field makes me sick! When Sonyand Canon finally understand that it is about the size of the chip! We want 2 / 3 or 35mm, so you can finally form the DOF with Picture! I have hope now the Brevis35 35mm converter for www.cinevate.com and that this is as good as the demo movies promise.
Michael Pilipp
http://www.high-definition-television.de/
Antwort von prem:
So the Kamerahersteler know exactly what they do! The smaller the chip, the smaller the lens and the camera (sales pitch!) And the more Gringer costs. simple as that. What is the normal Urlaubsfilmr need a shallow depth, and it would spend more money and take a chunk with s.den beach? NO!
But you're right, when comes to the (semi) professional sector, the biggest drawback of the small chip is the enormous depth of field. And take the people to earn money-synonymous (relatively) large cameras in Purchase.
However, since HDV, you can create a relatively well-synonymous depth of field, because the blur circle is smaller. Then, still working with large focal And the thing is (almost) so at a big machine like Betacam.
chris
Antwort von Cocoa.de:
Sorry, but that is not true. Only s.2/3-Chips is going on with the depth of Wirkund. Certainly one gets the tele with the landscape setting, slightly blurred, but not sehlbst parts of the face as in 2.8 or even 1.4. And how big? A Nikon or Canon APC-C size camera is smaller than the HR1 and one 28-300 toys makes the thing still winzi than the FX1.
The Hintgergrund is rather that no one thinks back to the firm!
Antwort von Shao-Domi:
Therefore, the synonymous are so damn successful because where no one is thinking ...
Comparison with the size and your lame synonymous only to take a tiny bit, but you seem to know all properly, so I do not need to go there on it.
Construction du erstmal a camera for the price in size with larger chips, then we talk next.
Antwort von Cocoa.de:
I would pay for a 35mm camera like 10.000,00 Euro. And ... in 2 years there will be the synonymous! Sure.
Antwort von Steffen04889:
Yes you have time then ordered a RED ... can all hat nen 35mm chip etc. .. So, out of
www.red.com!
Antwort von Cocoa.de:
OF COURSE I know to be interested parties, the RED-Project. Unfortunately, it reminds me more s.das before about 8 years ago that circulates through the digital Project (Stillimage) film should be submitted in the normal SLR ... :-)))
Antwort von therock:
Images look of understanding with the people speak, listen, and maybe a bit synonymous. It sounds while on an adventure, but you will probably need to see the truth in the eye. The question is not whether camera, but when.
Synonymous, and then you understand that a full frame is greater. Photo and chips do not confuse with the needs of a video camera. There's still in there a little bit more technology. And your 2 / 3 "bringens nunmal synonymous only with very expensive cine lenses, which are then really great. The market for the XL-H1 with full-frame chip would not be huge with the target audience. And stupid are not synonymous Manufacturer yes. Canon, the only one with changeable lenses in this segment does not produce optics for large camcorder. Gaaanz other shoe.
Find that you have provided s.oder wait till RED with a little luck to disorder in the market, then pull the other perhaps after. But here is the synonymous: 300mm Prime Tele: 5000, - USD and a newly announced 28-85 zoom around $ 10,000. And do not get it next, why they could not use for photo optics.
Be glad, as has become the market, but did everything better and faster and cheaper than you 2 years ago could have dreamed.
Antwort von für jeden das richtige:
Who wants to shoot a film look on film.
For me there is look:
film, video and hd-video (not hdv)
I can not quite understand the excitement when asked for a few euro baptized something that otherwise the x-factor costs.
as mentioned in the thread, see the manufacturer undertakes to achieve with their products to some of the market, and only need the video images for home.
in the broad who can be the enthusiastic waving of stuttering have a look? rather then 50 frames in the near future.
Who pays for a cottage, but can not expect a castle.
mfg
seriously
Antwort von Vipe:
If you want images with low depth of field will fetch you the appropriate equipment ... the Manufacturer are not yet so stupid and to make their own high-end market break ...
Leg dir ne HDW-900 or Varicam to ... Pro35 adapter on it ... appropriate optics and even the joy of no longer a boundary is set ... simple as that ..
Sure it has its price ... But that is simply ... I will not get no Prosche synonymous for nem nen price of golf synonymous if I ever so loud screams and Kreische nen as a small child ...
think about it;)
Antwort von CamFreak:
Man but now it should be synonymous to good times ... Everyone has now set out its position clearly ... @ seriously were apropos to the 24p/25p = stuttering look - you ever in the cinema? Apparently not, because when the movies are 24fps with s.The canvas and are projected onto a DVD, the movies synonymous with 24fps NTSC or 25fps PAL. With 50fps would look like after ner documentation but not to film ...
Antwort von seppelman:
Thus, we come easy time relating to back. I do not think this test video especially exhilarating. Instead of the strips in an interlaced video here occurs Ghostig ugly.
Time in earnest, I'd rather have stripes, which I subsequently gone can deinterlace.
And as far as the stills, which I find synonymous not so impressive that they say it is essential now for the camera.
But look at what makes the Ready-Cam so.
Antwort von Cocoa.de:
"For since the films will be projected with 24fps s.The canvas" ... That's true only in part. Synonymous because we perceive the Movies 48 "pictures" per second, because each Picture "will be shown 2 times" (circulating aperture). Generally, I see absolutely no advantage in 24/25p! For every good editing program p does for me. More importantly for "film look" that the shutter time does not exceed 50stel! In my opinion, the 'Vido-look "of:
- Too high shutter
- Artificial sharpness
- Too little contrast (Gamm curve)
- Not enough depth of field
Michael Pilipp
Antwort von Cocoa.de:
"Put your ne HDW-900 and Varicam to ... Pro35 adapter on it ... and even the joy of such optics is no longer set limits ... is as simple as that .."
I've ordered exactly synonymous. Unfortunately - this will ensure you know as a connoisseur synonymous - is the Picture by such an adapter, not just esser. Also Optics expensive is not necessary. I use to take photographs for example, a Tamron 28-105mm 2.8. A system of Aperture, I do not need, as is the whole purpose Depth of Field.
No idea why you here so you resist my arguments. Because we want to make sure all the same: good results at reasonable and affordable prices.
Michael Pilipp Cocoa.de
Antwort von seppelman:
Oh man, you're still not even on topic. New Camera of Sony? Do you remember?
What you before your camera for the "film look" strap, actually belongs in another thread.
Antwort von CamFreak:
Just because the image will be shown 2 times the heist is far from the one performing the same 48 images since it is still as I said 24 or interpolates the circulation around recently been blinded frames ... Shutterspeed should in any case at 1 / 24 or 1 / 25 are führ nen ordinary motionblur Effect ...
back to the thread:
In SonyHVR-V1E / U, I'm not so sure, but how do I find the nice man who has something wrong in the pulldown. Unfortunately, I do not now know the link but I've already seen a better video. Nevertheless, I still doubt a little s.der camera since they are only 3 1 / 4 "CMOS sensors has ..
I do not know but could not do a bit murky, the light sensitivity?
cu
Antwort von PowerMac:
Just because the image will be shown 2 times the heist is far from the one performing the same 48 images since it is still as I said 24 or interpolates the circulation around recently been blinded frames ... Shutterspeed should in any case at 1 / 24 or 1 / 25 are führ nen ordinary motionblur Effect ...
back to the thread:
In SonyHVR-V1E / U, I'm not so sure, but how do I find the nice man who has something wrong in the pulldown. Unfortunately, I do not now know the link but I've already seen a better video. Nevertheless, I still doubt a little s.der camera since they are only 3 1 / 4 "CMOS sensors has ..
I do not know but could not do a bit murky, the light sensitivity?
cu From what you talking about?
I do not understand a word.
Afaik, the 24p signal to a 24psf within 60i. As always with 3:2 pulldown. The cutting process of the Lord has not work out how good.
When Ami, I would take the EU model. 24 @ 25 is much more pleasant than 3:2 pulldown m. By M.
Antwort von CamFreak:
@ PowerMac: How not understand? The 3:2 pulldown process is, I've read recently, not necessarily the best courses to either 60i conversion to reverse. Better he would have made 24p Advanced Pulldown - quintessential should lead to better results. But these are not noticed as perhaps my own experiences ... we let ourselves be surprised how the EU's version ...
Antwort von Director84:
If you really want to have 35mm look, with a chip of this size, but do not want to wait for the RED Cam, how about then'S ner with Arri D-20?
http://www.arri.de/entry/products.htm
Go there times on "New Products" and then "Arriflex D-20".
Thus you will achieve as much depth of field as you can only dream of you.
However, you should be part of this but a little more worth than that of thee above 10,000. Roughly tripled.
Antwort von PowerMac:
At least 7-fold. The D20 can not be purchased, however.
