Frage von Helferray:
Hello,
I'm relatively inexperienced at "light topics", but would like to be like a few "decent" HD recording with my SonySR11E of a wedding in Standesamt make (; area approximately 4 x 10m). Unfortunately, the room is relatively dark (; with regard to window), so I like the room with a lamp would like to brighten up a bit. I will be with my SonyHDR-SR11E (; on Tripod) about 2 m away from the bride and groom are. Can you give me a hint what it would be the perfect illumination (the most easily transported would be-230V electricity is available)?
My budget is approximately, 100 - 150 ¬ for the light.
Thanks & Regards,
Ray
Antwort von joey23:
DIY -> 3x 500W Baustrahler -> Indirect on the wall. Then wirds hell
DIY -> 1x 150W Baustrahler of the back, as highlight.
Search times on Google for "3-point lighting. Without knowing the room can be as difficult to give precise tips.
Antwort von Axel:
Ähhm, very stylish, with which the Baustrahlern. If the bride is smaller, it must of course still on a pallet, to help family members like to wear. While the witnesses are waiting to make their signature, they may as well use a large styrofoam plate high, as brighteners. Good comes synonymous always a sight for the bride so that she really shines. Has proven itself as a flashlight, just before the Klüsener held. The Sermon of the registrar / in of course you can always stop if there is time for you, to change the position. Then to loosen up a little praise for how the liquid and professional awards are runtergeleiert. That there ever a foretaste of the church wedding, where, however, we will never know whether the mothers before emotion or cry because they spotlight your mascara to melt.
Tip: Leave the tripod extended, but collapsed, and use it as a monopod. Thus, you are more flexible and s.schnellsten find a position in which you are paying
too much in the way of art and of the light (window, there are always great!) Favorable to the bride and groom falls. External directional micro synonymous, I would recommend.
The best light is in fact spoiled when alongside a photographer has been committed. Traditionally, the despised, the videographer and will try to s.den main points about five hundred flash shots to make their Tschump! synonymous also spoil the sound. A wedding is now a media ceremony, discreetly in the background to bring nothing. Glossy pictures are difficult to achieve, the style of a live-reporting would be appropriate. There is opportunity enough feelings to push the abgeschmackten reality soaps make it before you.
Antwort von deti:
Ähhm, very stylish, with which the Baustrahlern ... Thank you, it's really great together ;-)
Deti
Antwort von tunichgut:
kenn unfortunately the camera does not mach mal ne in the dark recording, the grainy black, you do not have 3 ccd camera, and thus a problem, then I would be 150 euros for a camera distributors to create, otherwise the regular lighting problems in the post, so baustrahlergeschichten often end with deep shadows under the eyes and zombie faces.
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
When a bride is to say the magic word so well: Soft Light. Baustrahler are the opposite of them are also yellow (3200K) and the windows are taghell (5-10k). So completely wrong approach.
My tip: film against the window, and bright with a large 2kW or 5 n.Chimera from the direction on the Cam. Done. Perhaps the best ever, but only if enough constant daylight s.Start is costly and max 100 EUR s.Tag.
For everything else goes your budget anyway. Waivers, but in no case on the Chimera or a 1x1m frame, otherwise it will be simply awful.
PS: And tell the photographer: "He flashes, you die." Should Lens kindly ne decent buy, then that is light enough there.
MB
Antwort von A380:
Good evening from Bremen,
My tip: film against the window, and bright with a large 2kW or 5 n.Chimera from the direction on the Cam. Done. MB A brief technical note.
2 KW = about 10 amps ..... may well go in the office when no other more light is switched on.
5 KW = about 23 amps ..... it is then in the dark Standesamt quickly .... because the electrical supply breaks down. At least the outlet is to replace the office ..... because verkohkelt!
Fortunately for the office before it burns down, there are hoping backups.
mfg William ... The A380
Antwort von deti:
... and all the misery of the "most beautiful day in the life" fit to stage.
Deti
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
2 KW = about 10 amps ..... may well go in the office when no other more light is switched on.
about 8 A - is actually always. In the rarest cases shrugs as a backup.
5 KW = about 23 amps ..... it is then in the dark Standesamt quickly .... because the electrical supply breaks down. At least the outlet is to replace the office ..... because verkohkelt!
There is no outlet for 5kW, which is a rotary power, and the runs are not synonymous with 23 amps at 230 V but with 13 to 380 V - the power of rotation, each locker.
Instead of a 5kW is synonymous but a 2.4 n.HMI is anyway much better because the light temperature to better match incoming daylight. Works but may no longer be with Chimera, but only with the context.
Below 2kW any case, you need not think about it, nothing will come of it.
HMI framework with second consideration is clearly the best choice. They can still NE 1 n.Stufe spotig from the other direction are, for the hands when the ring is übergestreift. The two in combination give certainly a neat picture. The HMI with the frame you should be so far away that the brightness of the skin in the direction of Cam at about 40-60%, which is facing away from Page 60-80%, in any event so that the difference amounts to 10-20%. The hair is already light by the daylight, you do not have extra shine. In addition, the HMI is the frame with a lovely sparkle in his eyes.
Fortunately for the office before it burns down, there are hoping backups.
bla bla bla ...
MB
Antwort von Axel:
The registry office before your mind's eye is probably a real Werther advertising, at least it is quite provincial. A medium to large urban Standesamt manufactures clients s.wie patients at the dentist. That one can not point out, is really amazing. Even if time were lighting up, is already such a number of sites of the families probably not desirable. There are a handful of other reasons to the contrary (logistical, financial, safety aspects, but s.wichtigsten: bias), and you realize that you do not speak from practical experience.
The above applies to a greater extent for the church.
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
The registry office before your mind's eye is probably a real Werther advertising, at least it is quite provincial. A medium to large urban Standesamt manufactures clients s.wie patients at the dentist. That one can not point out, is really amazing. Even if time were lighting up, is already such a number of sites of the families probably not desirable. There are a handful of other reasons to the contrary (logistical, financial, safety aspects, but s.wichtigsten: bias), and you realize that you do not speak from practical experience.
The above applies to a greater extent for the church. If you decently occurs, you get everything: time, contacts, confidence. I can do this especially for the church only to confirm, since I put it as a convenience for those who have done. There had been the pastor said that it would be difficult. To me he was extremely cooperative.
The fact is, you're dependent on good will, and the ONLY get with a good appearance. Reminder: We are talking about exactly ONE lamp.
MB
Antwort von Videofactory:
2 KW = about 10 amps ..... may well go in the office when no other more light is switched on.
...
5 KW = about 23 amps ..... it is then in the dark Standesamt quickly .... because the electrical supply breaks down. At least the outlet is to replace the office ..... because verkohkelt!
Fortunately for the office before it burns down, there are hoping backups.
If we are lucky, the people from the nuclear nor a super-GAU prevent!
Oh man here If you want to make someone afraid or what?
2kW revealed 2000Watt / 220 volts (I know, it really should be 230, but rather counts with 220, because that always varies slightly) So 9 amps.
So stay was 7 amps on and I do not believe that the circuit has only one (except this is really a province). If you do not flash lamp (which is always excreting HMI) haste no problems.
In 5 n.Strahler haste, as MB said, eh a CEE or Eberl-off times, which can be difficult to get into a power outlet.
But even if there is a normal Schuko-off times would be as nothing verkokeln or burn, simply because now the backup would be kicked out. As an office of a public building is, in Germany kannste you very sure that nothing happens. Because you could actually unscrew the outlet and with the hand grab purely because immediately the FI would trigger.
Well, I do believe, though synonymous s.das what Axel wrote:
That is far too expensive, because the people from the office probably more than just a wedding day s.dem are synonymous and the facilities needed.
Gruß, Alex.
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Oh man here If you want to make someone afraid or what?
(...) exactly ... or with other words: people who make just what you want. But I really completely no preference:)
MB
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Purchase it perhaps just a regular Baustrahler (9, -), plus 1 LED Baustrahler with stativ ca (30, -)
a used / cheap mini-DV Cam (90, -) and NEN cheap Tripod (20, -)
The Baustrahler behind the couple s.die wall and ceiling slightly above s.die
LED front (better synonymous indirectly, but they are usually able to synonymous DIMM Dinger oh yes you can craft a film without the glue before anything burns ;-) quasi fully professional, however, regulate the finances now look at the resources, resulting in a yes no must hold.)
So oh yes and the 2 Cam Schragenheim post in the corner so that the couple (their position) well capture
How can with the existing Cam just rumlaufen drum.
............
If you judge for 2 microphones at floor height or ceiling height - hauptsache out of the way / Picture and install / download in the Music Television, for example)
Then you can do something because what you can recycle.
I do not aim my Hollywood wedding.
MfG
B. DeKid
PS: Depending on your wall color and synonymous because Baustrahlern on the White Balance care, depending on the clothes (white), the then quickly yellowed from unspecified fine.
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
If the asker überhaupt nochmal reports ...
Replace existing light bulbs if necessary against much stronger. This can be synonymous with the often predicted Standesamt regulate. Since you've written, that the room is quite dark, I assume that there are few windows, or the light is not directly mind. Then you have fewer problems with mixed light.
If, however, a lot of light outside, but you need to brighten the faces can be synonymous with daylight lamps in standard versions of what reality. Then you have not so red-heads.
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
I do not aim my Hollywood wedding.
But this is the default.
I have noticed, I'm wrong here.
MB
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
If the asker überhaupt nochmal reports ...
Replace existing light bulbs if necessary against much stronger. This can be synonymous with the often predicted Standesamt regulate. This will not synonymous nicer, just lighter. In a room with windows, it is always bright enough. This is not the issue. The question is, how is it beautiful.
MB
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
My advice then was, the faces by daylight pears on the table Standesamt aufzuhellen order to possibly some windows in the background can be put forward. But we have no idea delivered, how the room looks like - let alone whether it's windows.
And the question was how to light the issues with inexperienced questioners 100-150 ¬ for light, "decent" shots of the wedding can be.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... is not a Hollywood wedding ...
... But this is the default. I have noticed, I'm wrong here ... False, you are certainly not here, just occasionally, you should bear in mind that there are different requirements and conditions of production there. If you need for a movie or a music video a staged wedding, can / should / must be naturally light technically steam. Who opposed to a real wedding with headlamps of 2kW to 5kW (!) Anrückt, the opposite seems to be little love for all parties encounter - except perhaps in the deepest winter, because you need a heater no longer ;-)
For practical tips in this case it would be indeed good if you have more info: room size, window position, camera position and last but not least, a statement of the office, how much is possible or permissible.
Antwort von Axel:
I do not aim my Hollywood wedding.
But this is the default.
I have noticed, I'm wrong here. No, Marc. It's just a different
style. When what you had done, you're practically been the director, you have the whole thing after your
Standard. No question that you've photographed more than the average wedding filmmaker, synonymous with its below-budget, would have skillfully. But I know such films synonymous, they are synonymous always a little too stiff, too geleckt, obviously. Between the perfect advertisement for your aesthetic ideal and the "shots" of an uncle with his private Urlaubscam there are other categories. For example, capturing the typical atmosphere of nervousness, between pleasure and mental / nervous strain. Since you have to manage the balancing act between restraint (one should only observe, not "while being") and intrusive (no close-ups will all sterile). And despite further stress by a striking video production nor atmosphere to get something -
this balancing act has still managed to None.
In a room with windows, it is always bright enough. This is not the issue. The question is, how is it beautiful.
You're right.
Hell is not
enough scale for us photographically sighted people. But the well-photographed pictures are synonymous is not the only measure of a good wedding movie. Often enough it must be read as
good enough. You need to work with what is there, and use his experience to the best of it to make.
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
As the synonymous, but who is a bride with hard brightening punisheth one shot.
Here's another tip: brides are usually geschminkt. Here it is synonymous NEN Schnack, because when it's dry make-up water-based, is in angular light in the pants. Dear camouflage, etc., and the contours of eyes brown, not black.
I would generally assume that the window on a Page of the area are located, and the people with half a face to the window seat. Press photographers take pictures of the side window, aesthetically minded with Flash into backlight. So I would synonymous around Closeups filming of the bride, and when the window is the absence of three whitening ausbrennt, it's always nicer picture.
MB
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Press photographers take pictures of the side window, aesthetically minded with Flash into Backlight ... The fact that the latter is the more interesting pictures, no question. Why do you press photographers, however, unable to do, now I do not.
Antwort von Axel:
Marc, I take back that I practically strangers you have mentioned. The make-up tips are valuable and can decide whether the film arrives or not. Not if it looks like as one of the zombies were on lease from
the death of her is good. Synonymous and it is true that Gegenlicht, although problematic, can be synonymous beautiful: A completely Clipped white background
can be beautiful. There are different synonymous intrusive for such situations (pastel, Blur). What is the most important thing: Even the worst nightmare ever s.Raum can still options to react. That should now - for God's sake! - No recipe, but we assume the lucky kiss in front of the altar, takes place as just a thunderstorm cloud has darkened everything. Who da witted enough, the fast shutter speed to double, for correct exposure is still a trite tears pushers for free. This kind are the cheap sleight, with which a clever wedding film reaps recognition to his disgrace and his profit.
Antwort von WideScreen:
I think if the questioner, I would never myself now synonymous Report. The question he would prefer s.ne house wall lubricated, then it would certainly get more help ....
Antwort von B.DeKid:
@ Marc
Nene, it's not meant, but then the budget and without any experience expensive rent is more light in the pants.
Like I said persl. would prefer more because Cams want to use as little as possible to disrupt halt ......
The theme MakeUp - of which we spoke garnicht yet ;-)
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von kalle70:
Class story, so to smile ...
Since asking the poor pig of which the bride was forced klimpernd man as video record the whole wedding in a few Lichtips because he has no idea whether the (presumably) extra for this purpose Camera purchased with the "darkness" in Standesamt cope.
Because he wants to not be bitching for grisselige gray in gray gematsche of newly married lady get.
And gets: Concentrated expertise! ;-)
I'm really curious whether the reports again.
Antwort von Helferray:
Hi,
So first of all times thanks to the many responses, the response is so huge!
Unfortunately, the solution with a number of 1,000 watts are not realized, not because I have permission to film, but not the entire space occupied may take (to the bridal couple). Especially here seem to be in half-hour s.diesem days weddings are announced, and I do not have hours prior to or can dismantle. So it should be somewhat compact, which if possible I can install the Tripod and max. in total 500 - has 1,000 watts (so I do not have the office because of the backups to bring distress). A 230V Schuko connector, however, is not a problem and present (to the registrar: unknown hedge).
The main ceremony is the wedding, and there should be filmed, not that it s.Schluss looks as if the wedding in a studio had taken place (too many Tripods, reflectors, cables, etc.). I think here to find the right mix is a small degree ... (good pictures, without too much of the bride and groom and the registrar as "disturbing" perceived technology).
Best Regards,
Ray
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
If you need help and too much money did sag decision:) Then I am sending you a few people who can.
Marc, I take back that I practically strangers you have mentioned. No problem. What weddings are concerned, however, I am really not very knowledgeable. Not really my profession, although I would feel like Sheikh für nen ne fette wedding to shoot. I fear only that with one take would not be done;) So far, all requests in this budget announcements synonymous s.meinen failed:)
MB
Antwort von Axel:
--- I think, here to find the right mix is a small degree ... Hello Ray,
that you worry about the right way to deal with it, a kind of "stage fright", you honor yourself and show the right ethos. I advise you, the room once to see with your camera and a few test shots to make. If the position of the light can not change (windows, lamps), can one's own location relative to optimize motive is a little intuition and a little exercise. Perhaps enough daylight through the windows, and you can ask that the Tungsten off. If not: Make the White Balance on the nature of light (art, natural light), on the skin of the bride and groom dominates. Mixed lighting is cruel, but you can sometimes get from a weakness to a strength.
If you perceive the visit, you can synonymous decide whether you Schleich Michels tip with the table lamp will take up the style to set up matches with s.besten something Opalschirm, for better dispersion.
Antwort von KrischanDO:
The fact is, you're dependent on good will, and the ONLY get with a good appearance. Reminder: We are talking about exactly ONE lamp.
MB All right. But on the 30 weddings at which I said in the last 10 years was invited, in small and in large cities, had just "bonded" by the wedding party already waiting next to the outside wind. And depending on the whim of law enforcement officials say was permitted or forbidden to take photographs, to twinkle on Videography, recordings to make to move or stand still.
Since you have already soft stones and can speak long before other, so that the officers between two "slots" let some air.
Regards
Christian
Antwort von K.-D. Schmidt:
Slots ???????????????
Antwort von KrischanDO:
Slots ??????????????? http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slot_ (aviation)
Just so does the fact that too often.
Regards
Christian
Antwort von bgk:
Slots ??????????????? Guckst here. The first description there is for the state ethics office often quite good ... :-)
Antwort von Helferray:
... I have times a Picture from the space in the office made so that the situation you can imagine better.
Meanwhile, I have me an emperor 8S worried (300Watt halogen video light with 230V AC adapter), which I will try einzusetzten. The light ehat one after a day built s.230V cord dimmer, s.der you can adjust the brightness. If because of the windows in the office and because of the daylight may be a Konversationsflter useful because of the color?
Thanks & Regards,
Helferray
Antwort von K.-D. Schmidt:
Guckst here.
The first description there is for the state ethics office often quite good ... :-) Thanks for the info.
Greeting
KDS
Antwort von Axel:
The dream of the Hollywood wedding in a small petty Amtsstube with pseudo-rustic dining room chairs of
`Roll sRaus ...
After all, the big windows, there's, there's always. A second man would not be bad, one
such
Alternatively, you could be the thing synonymous s.ein Tripod or a Hutständer (which may be in this office actually still have) s.der Attach wrist strap, but the second man would be better if he could make one so that he is not in the Picture you and the other the light cones for your current position to redirect motif. To avoid misunderstanding: The light of the windows!
Whether you this kind of light to make interesting, you can test. Films against a person and as bright a face with a Styrofoam plate. The aim has to be good, but the advantages are obvious: Natural, soft whitening without the side effects of such a chicken-heater ...
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Had ... ... a ... Konversationsflter useful? ... One such would you wish for some talks, but in this case is a good piece of 'conversion filter ";-)
