Frage von Detsky:
Hello,
I am director and editor, but no sound man!
Well, I was of the order together creates a Tonzubehör for a Canon XM2. My uncle is an innovative pastor, and the whole equipment is used of its film group. The much-do: documentaries, dramas, etc. Must also be flexible and robust for several situations.
I have now wrestled one days and made inquiries. Have found many answers, but now had a headache and need advice, we have 800. How we spend the s.besten?
So, as far as I am:
Headphones are important - either AKG K240 or Sonz MDR7506
XLR Adapters - I know the Beachtek series is better than the Canon MA300. Now, however gibts Beachtek DXA-4/4P/6/8. 6 and 8 have phantom power. But are more expensive. And with the 8 you can Impadenz (? I'm English and my German is sometimes check next to it).
The question is. Do I need phantom power or impedance dingsbums when the mics are good and have their own Batteries?
I think it's logical), a directional Micro s.einer Tonangel (for voices) and a stereo s.der Micro Camera (for atmosphere and different sound. What do you think?
For mics I get headaches. What are s.besten for our price range?
The complication, as far as my limited knowledge goes it is the performance of the Beachteks and the performance of the Mikros erwiegen?
I look forward to the outpourings of your collective brains!
Detsky
Antwort von Markus:
Hello,
Your approach is correct in principle: a balanced signal (XLR) audio recordings is on duty if you are between your camcorder and microphone cable a few meters. The tone control his s.Camcorders (Headphones) must, because nothing is worse than overdriven or not even recorded sound. Even the choice of microphones (directional micro s.einer Angel, stereo microphone for atmosphere) is okay for the described application.
For specific clarification, which is what Microphone with XLR Adapters and what headphones will be purchased, you could call someone from the film group, who / which is familiar with sound recording and you could help in the compilation of the required equipment. Ultimately it is synonymous to the film group and you do not work. ;-)
Antwort von beiti:
Whether you need phantom power, depends on the Microphone. Since the Canon MA300 fits so well on the XM2, I would stay here and buy only microphones with Battery.
Directional microphone s.der fishing is good in any case. There are cheap around 100 euros (TBone example of Thomann), but if the budget is not exhausted even otherwise, there would for example, a Beyerdynamic MCE86 into question.
To the Microphone of the Tonangel to decouple, I can recommend the Beyerdynamic holder EA 19/25.
If I have it right in the head, must be purchased separately at Beyerdynamic the windshield. Must of course be synonymous.
In many situations it makes sense to use the directional micro directly on the camera. All that is necessary for this purpose, an additional short cable.
Whether you also need a stereo microphone, hanging from the use of areas. And if so, then you will not (always use the camera for atmosphere, but something synonymous s.einer sound source distance because of the church group was speaking, I think) spontaneously s.einen choir.
I would book up the budget as follows:
First, the Microphone and buy the XLR adapter; to several XLR cable in various lengths, the wind, a Tonangel and rubber suspension.
In addition, I would still buy a second, cheaper directional microphone, occasionally you may want to start without modification of two different places and then has the opportunity. In addition, we have a reserve in case the "good" Microphone broken.
What else needs to be purchased or / may depend on the starting of film projects. One possibility would be the aforementioned stereo microphone with the necessary cables and adapters, one or more microphone stands, a mixer, any other (easier) microphones for indoor or orchestra microphones, other cable ...
And if not yet found anyone who has recordings of idea would be an appropriate textbook very well.
It is synonymous by the microphone manufacturer Shure a very good brochure on film and video sound recording. Somewhere you can download (in English, which would be) for you as an Englishman, the smaller problem.
EDIT: Forgot I had the headphones. Is of course synonymous important.
Edit2: The brochure called "Guide To Audio Systems For Video Production" and is edited of Shure. Google will help.
Antwort von Detsky:
First of thanks for the quick and very detailed answers! Echt toll.
I think you're right, Mark, that it would be better if the movie would help group members with research. But is not so easy because time is pressing. Which are geographically far away of me. I then have to explain everything yet anyway, because it is a young film group and I am their mentor. In terms of Directing and camera no problem. But things had sound. As you can see it now!
MA300 is not as good as the Beach Tek. Although he fits the camera, which is synonymous is a problem. You can install it - through the intelligent shoe - not somewhere else. There are other film groups in the area and want to borrow, perhaps the part synonymous times. The MA300 is synonymous fragile. Beachtek much more solid. The MA300 brings the camera out of balance, because he sits on top. The BeachTek sits solidly between Camera and Tripod. The MA300 has no balanced line leadership. Beach Tek has. Canon has rausgebracht the MA300 in despair quickly and because so many wanted Prokonsumer XLR. He's just not thoroughly thought through.
I think you're right that I do not need phantom power supply of the XLR adapter. Loved that you confirm my suspicion. So mics with Battery and a cheaper version of the Beach Teks. Probably the DXA-4P.
As far as cables and stands - except for a short XLR cable - have it all. My uncle runs a theater company synonymous and are quite successful. Could therefore obtain more expensive microphones, XLR cables, and micro-stands. The mics are designed for concerts and theater, however. But as a backup for a second-directional Micro, I think they were okay. So this extra expense account.
Here's looking at me MCE86 times. Thanks for the advice. I'll get on with at least a Tonangel Windkorb and spider. I have been synonymous said a windbreak for the Micro s.der Camera would be good, but he should not be too large - otherwise comes into the picture!
Beyerdynamic holder EA 19/25 is good. But I think there are synonymous pistol grips. Sun Microsystems may be synonymous times in the hand'll take along with Windkorb.
Have you any idea what the best length and the best model is for a Tonangel?
Do you have a suggestion for a good stereo microphone?
Last but not least, why would I get me a mixer? To connect more than two mics? But the camera has only two channels?
Little do I know,
Detsky
PS Thanx for the brochure!
Antwort von Markus:
I do not want to make unnecessary confusion, but I would take an XLR adapter
with phantom power.
Why? - Because of the flexibility. I would not be limited to microphones, which have either a battery power supply or do not require external power. Perhaps I have to say that I have phantom power has always been accustomed to know and appreciate the benefits. Many good microphones can only be used with phantom power and separate power sources cost extra money again.
Antwort von Detsky:
Hi Markus,
The XLR adapter but need synonymous Batteries - he should provide phantom power. And have not most mics an option for phantom or battery ... so are switchable.
Detsky
Antwort von beiti:
The MA300 brings the camera out of balance, because he sits on top. The BeachTek sits solidly between Camera and Tripod. [...] I think you're right that I do not need phantom power supply of the XLR adapter. Loved that you confirm my suspicion. So mics with Battery and a cheaper version of the Beach Teks. Probably the DXA-4P. I just had the screws between Camera and Tripod regarded as cumbersome, but if you see it differently, of course, there remains no advantage for the MA300. If you do not have the MA300 are taking, but then I would have a phantom power adapter with counsel. As Markus said, then you are more flexible. For example, the really long directional microphones, it is not at all with battery power. There are also microphones that run on batteries to rush for more than about Phantom.
Beyerdynamic holder EA 19/25 is good. But I think there are synonymous pistol grips. Sun Microsystems may be synonymous times in the hand'll take along with Windkorb. When a cart is wind present, the Beyerdynamic holder probably unnecessary. On some models you can pick up the actual basket to be used in wind-free indoor only the bare Microphone in the rubber spider.
why would I get me a mixer? To connect more than two mics? But the camera has only two channels? For that very reason. To mix the signals of more than 2 microphones simultaneously connected to 2 channels. Is however difficult to assess whether the film has ever needed for this group, I have only mentioned so s.Rande.
Have you any idea what the best length and the best model is for a Tonangel? Much more than 4 meters in length does not make sense anymore because nobody can hold. (The Micro samt Windkorb is indeed quite a lever weight.)
If the budget is hergibt, I would prefer a light angel made of carbon.
Antwort von Detsky:
Dear Teibi and Markus,
Thank you. You have made clear to me really a lot. Pantomspeise it will be and thank you for the advice pertains to the Tonangel etc.
Kind regards,
Detsky
