Frage von derpianoman:
Dear video enthusiasts,
I have a technical question:
From a stereo VHS recorder I go via scart cable into the analog input of my
Hi 8 -, the whole into a DV signal converter
I am using Fire Wire Recording on the PC. The Avi-files
are s.PC (!) just OK as everything myself with the camera had recorded.
And now the problem:
As soon as I by Nero (7) create a DVD, the sound - not s.PC, but only s.Television! - Not more synchronously with the picture!
Who can help me?
Thank you for your answers,
Klaus
Antwort von tommyb:
Bitrate too high?
7000 kbit / s for video and approximately 256 kbit / s for audio.
Antwort von derpianoman:
As a hobby I make scrap Nero user to a fixed setting (high quality or so). That is when with the recorded cases
synonymous never the problem ...
Maybe the "looping" and "on the run" Convert
just do not! (although it is the AVI files as said s.Computer
not considered!)
That means I have probably first on DV tape () begin
this tape and then capture. But before then I Lorio 3 x
Look, I prefer the VHS recorder to the same living room. :-)
VG Klaus
Antwort von DoBBy:
So obviously, the sound of Picture assynchron, while Nero renders the whole thing and burn to DVD. I do that a mistake of the whole Nero triggers.
I would point s.deiner times another authoring software take Nero is good for CDs / DVDs on the fly in order to copy and burn all the other things to do, but the NeroVision department and everything with film so as to do, has me personally very disappointed.
Use it as Adobe EncoreDVD times. Of which there are trial versions to download and then when everything is running beautifully synchronously, so you know what it must be located. Moreover, it is my experience (and perhaps slightly high standards synonymous) of the Nero encoder synonymous not just the yellow from the egg ...
Antwort von thos-berlin:
It is certainly not with s.der AD conversion by the Camera lie.
Antwort von derpianoman:
It is certainly not with s.der AD conversion by the Camera lie. And why then is the error
never occurred when I
with the camera recorded movies with Nero to DVD "verwurste"?
This allows a logical Konsequenzt but only that the error in the
Real time (!) AD - Conversion is the Camera! The order is then probably
"overwhelmed" at the same time, single and run.
So I will take a first film of VHS to DV tape and play
then in a second step in the Compost ...
... and reports tomorrow, whether the solution is!
VG Klaus
Antwort von DoBBy:
It is certainly not with s.der AD conversion by the Camera lie.
And why then is the error never occurred when I
with the camera recorded movies with Nero to DVD "verwurste"?
This allows a logical Konsequenzt but only that the error in the
Real time (!) AD - Conversion is the Camera! You wiedersprichst dir doch! What did you write above?
... From a stereo VHS recorder I go via scart cable into the analog input of my
Hi 8 -, the whole into a DV signal converter
I am using Fire Wire Recording on the PC. The Avi-files
are s.PC (!) just OK as everything myself with the camera had recorded ... So yes, as you say it himself? It can not s.der A / D function of the camera, if the recorded files s.PC "OK" means.
If only on the DVD asynchronously, then it MUST therefore when creating the DVD what's wrong ... (see my first post). Why are you now on the A / D conversion of the Cam?
Perhaps you have only synonymous clumsily expressed, I have at least understood so that the files after the conversion and the dubbing on the PC are OK and only on the DVD picture and sound diverging. If I'm wrong, please describe specific times, what you mean ...
Antwort von thos-berlin:
I assumed synonymous. If s.PC still everything is OK, then the error can not be earlier. Please use your attempt synonymous with the same tapes.
In addition, it may be in the use of variable bitrate when creating a DVD image with difficult content errors. Analogue material can be due to the image noise well at high data rates. DVD player (and the synonymous DVD Sezifikationen define the so-solid) have a limited performance as the data is concerned and which is below that of a PC.
A DVD that works s.PC must therefore not necessarily on all DVD players to be synonymous and the default values of a burning program can not match times.
The passiet if the data is übeschritten and the settings can be as high Quallität "be the case. Where will the high Quallität come from if not from a high data rate.
Try it in Nero please once and setting other records primarily debate whether the values of tommyb not exceeded
will. Otherwise, instead of variable bit rate times the constant sample.
I do not really synonymous, whether on VHS material the "highest Quallität" really worth ....
Antwort von derpianoman:
... You wiedersprichst dir doch! What did you write above? Quiet Blood, men! , -)
The difference is that the operational files from DV tape
come as AVI and land in the computer and the non-functioning
(asynchronous) files in the analog and digital input to output.
The WEG is another!
He's not on tape and
down again from the tape. This is the camera so primarily because,
and perhaps does it matter synonymous just perfect!
That I s.PC no difference of A AVI File to AVI File B
can recognize (both are running) is called - so what happens - the
faulty files (!!!) a hidden defect, the only
s.TV "comes to coverage." The play there is so synonymous "" somehow ""
otherwise ... Half ...
My trial is running, the Resolutionfolgt no later than tomorrow!
Liebe Grüße!
Klaus
Antwort von derpianoman:
In addition, it may be in the use of variable bitrate when creating a DVD image with difficult content errors. Analogue material can be due to the image noise well at high data rates. DVD player (and the synonymous DVD Sezifikationen define the so-solid) have a limited performance as the data is concerned and which is below that of a PC.
A DVD that works s.PC must therefore not necessarily on all DVD players to be synonymous and the default values of a burning program can not match times.
The passiet if the data is übeschritten and the settings can be as high Quallität "be the case. Where will the high Quallität come from if not from a high data rate.
Try it in Nero please once and setting other records primarily debate whether the values of tommyb not exceeded
will. Otherwise, instead of variable bit rate times the constant sample.
I do not really synonymous, whether on VHS material the "highest Quallität" really worth .... Thanks for the info! Be my similar attempt to restart!
In "High Quality" (the DVD has really not), the data
at 8000th So too high! Although the material in my camera
always "gefunzt has. But maybe the image noise really
a tangled mass of misleading data.
(So would the small Erna synonymous formulate)
So now I have to "Standard Play" with 5073 KB / s asked.
Thank you for your help (and sympathy, -)
Klaus
Antwort von derpianoman:
Good morning!
Well, this blank synonymous left his life in vain!
The solution is probably in a very different direction: In the "heat of the battle" (I had the mistake points s.anderen already searched), I had forgotten that I am a few days ago with a (normal?) Mono (!) VHS DVD recorder had created, not where the problem occurred!
Then I thought hold stereo is (especially with music) so nice and had 1 euro for a 6 head stereo recorder at Ebay shot. Somehow, this text suggested that the stereo image with a different track "links" is:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Home_System# audio Qualit.C3.A4t
But: Avi files are in order! ? An even auszuprobierende thing the AVI files again with "Super" to convert. Maybe then the "shortcut" of Picture and Sound restored?
Wonders (and you) with regards,
Klaus
Antwort von thos-berlin:
Whether your mono or stereo player, has no meaning. You play the signal via analog RCA cable into the AD converter as acting one. Where is the "know" how the signal on the VHS tape looked and whether of the mono-edge hi-fi stereo track or stereo track was? Solchre information is an analog signal is not vorghanden!
The AD-converters () simply converts the analog signal into a DV stream (with a fixed data rate) in order.
You write yourself that s.PC yet everything is OK. Why then should predict something wrong? ! Do you have your own idea, first on MiniDV aufnhemen and then into the PC trying times?
Geanu What have you done since, as the CD has left his life? Which data rate, etc. Did you once synonymous tried a constant bitrate?
Again: A noisy VHS recording may require a higher data rate than a clean DV Recording. Why? Because the image noise as a detail of the image is viewed with and thus is being processed. When noise sine Bildländerungen many available to a larger Datenrtate lead. MPEG encoding is simply folgenderaßen: Only a Picture compress, then only changes to the model store. This goes on several pictures and then comes back full. Consequently generates more noisy material such "changes".
When we say look, what you now employed with Nero did and how the current settings for the senseless death of the blank have led loud.
In addition, in a DV stream with the sound of Picture couples. There you can picture and sound are not apart. So if in the DV-format everything synchronously with each other, then it remains synonymous. Increases the Picture, then the sound synonymous. If s.PC this Datenstom correctly, then he is correct synonymous.
The DVD creation Picture and sound are separated and processed separately and then together. This makes the burning program or an advanced Konvertierprogramm. If so then Picture and Sound not synchronously, then this conversion is to blame.
Furthermore:
But if some devices now on the DVD is running, s.anderen not, then this is usually an "overload" of the players. Here then is the cause of the MPEG file and not in the original DV file.
If you SOWISO with Super herumexperimentierst, then convert so that some of the DV-AVI to MPEG 2 and burn it to DVD times. Eighth please still look at the data rates.
Varaible Datenrqaten namely mean that, depending on the "demand" a higher data rate can occur, but it may very kurffristig. Your analog material but may require more of these higher data rate, so the player will be longer so overwhelmed. Then it comes to mistakes, so you have the same attitude had not yet.
Antwort von DoBBy:
... The DVD creation Picture and sound are separated and processed separately and then together. This makes the burning program or an advanced Konvertierprogramm. If so then Picture and Sound not synchronously, then this conversion is to blame ... My question;)
Antwort von derpianoman:
Thank you for your detailed reply!
You write yourself that s.PC yet everything is OK. Why then should predict something wrong? ! Do you have your own idea, first on MiniDV aufnhemen and then into the PC trying times?
Geanu What have you done since, as the CD has left his life? Which data rate, etc. Did you once synonymous tried a constant bitrate? ...
When we say look, what you now employed with Nero did and how the current settings for the senseless death of the blank have led loud. So, or, as the Latins would say: "I have noted:
There are 3 different "settings".
When all three are involved AVI files appear to be OK
1. My run DVDs with Nero always "perfect".
2. My mono VHS transfer (there were 2) to run with Nero "perfect".
3. My stereo VHS transfer will not run. Yes, I have synonymous
only once on the record and then captured.
According to your statements would have the AVI files of 1 and 3rd identical.
Then in 3rd but would no errors!
The last DVD I had, as proposed, with a low data rate (circa 5000) is burned. The data is not the problem.
Now, it seems easier for me, the VHS recorder s.den Television
adapter than "just" the old, interesting things
to capture on DVD.
But I will test with "Super" again and make
Nero MPG2 files with the same "feed".
Nero is certainly not a high-end program for all the highest demands
but I come so long (see 1) fine, without ever
Problems have arisen! (And send even professionally Demo DVDs
gemeckt where nobody has, he can not play!)
I do not have mini-DV but a digital 8,
of (I do not know if this all do?) synonymous high 8 plays.
If the reason "other" with analog signals to act as a
Mini DV device? But as I said, run the AVI files .... yes ....
? I am back to the MPEG test!
LG K
Antwort von thos-berlin:
The Digital8 recorder uses s.der Firewire output interface in the same format as DV recorder.
Antwort von derpianoman:
... The DVD creation Picture and sound are separated and processed separately and then together. This makes the burning program or an advanced Konvertierprogramm. If so then Picture and Sound not synchronously, then this conversion is to blame ...
My question;) "Your speech" is not synonymous unfortunately explains why the conversion
2 x funzt and 1 x failed .. if you (like you) of the same
Starting position x = 3 AVI files intact, out ...
Antwort von thos-berlin:
"Your speech" is not synonymous unfortunately explains why the conversion
2 x funzt and 1 x failed .. if you (like you) of the same
Starting position x = 3 AVI files intact, out ... We hold synonymous only our experience. In my and me to read of cases was always the DVD creation and the cause not the DV-AVI file. Your cases are (unfortunately) does not comparable, given that MPEG encoding synonymous to the image content arrives. Only with the same content, the cases are quite comparable.
Only if you tell me that the time between recording the analog signal on Digital8 and its subsequent capture in the PC has a difference, (and I mean only the same source material) then I would be a bug in the DV data into consideration. However, I am very surprised to see it for the tape recording and the live-looping different 'grades' exist. As long as I break-standing position, werkelt another codec, as if the pause button is released? Not possible. The tape on the existing data model idtenisch but not with the interface? Why only on live looping?
Why does the DVD s.PC? Why is the AVI s.PC OK? Why does the error only s.externen devices?
Obviously, because of something the PC can do what the external device can not. These are usually the data rates! (BTW is synonymous times the burn speed to play a role. Sometimes with smaller speed probiert?) Why should the error previously incurred?
You have still not exactly written what data rates you've tried. At a constant data rate is only one value of interest at variable, there are two values (of Druchschnitt and the maximum value). Everyone should play s.Stand_alone for a player in which those of tommyb stay.
I have put my arguments and my solutions. More I can not do for you. Please let us know your solution.
Antwort von derpianoman:
... Your cases are (unfortunately) does not comparable, given that MPEG encoding synonymous to the image content arrives. Only with the same content, the cases are quite comparable.
Only if you tell me that the time between recording the analog signal on Digital8 and its subsequent capture in the PC has a difference, (and I mean only the same source material) then I would be a bug in the DV data into consideration. However, I am very surprised to see it for the tape recording and the live-looping different 'grades' exist. As long as I break-standing position, werkelt another codec, as if the pause button is released? Not possible. The tape on the existing data model idtenisch but not with the interface? Why only on live looping?
Why does the DVD s.PC? Howdy,
since I was maybe somewhere above prescribed:
The DVDs work s.TV and s.PC not.
In any event, the last went s.PC not synonymous. The rest is already in the trash.
There is always the same data (Loriot: Papa ante portas)
That I already know by heart .. , -)
The "Zwischenaufnehmen" to DV (as written)
made no difference. The codec is probably the same, has
but (in my amateur idea) more time, or it is
the work that he knows ".
= On tape and
= Of tape down
The mono-recorder is not synonymous less flickering, ie produce irritating than the Stereo Recorder. And the bit rate was
(as described in approximately 5000) 5045? If so clear?
I now convert with SUPER (although at first glance the picture quality of the mpg files seems to be worse than with Nero)
and will be times with standard playback burn.
These are (with / for Nero) 5073 kbit / s.
Otherwise, I always "lower field first".
But as I said, mono (and usually) this is OK
And what I just read is the "fast encoding" (which I
RESTRICT) the bit rate constant.
Uff. Yes, somehow this has a severe birth ....
Liebe Grüße,
Klaus
Antwort von derpianoman:
1. My run DVDs with Nero always "perfect".
2. My mono VHS transfer (there were 2) to run with Nero "perfect".
3. My stereo VHS transfer will not run. Howdy!
Also: The DVD, when I Nero with first by the "Super" converted mpg files gefütter have run s.PC and s.TV! And Nero will mpgs files still for hours to convert (?) And the picture quality seems worse to me.
Please do not say triumphantly: We have it known that the problem was, when you convert = Nero. Because:
The mono-DVDs and Digital-8 AVSi converts Nero so without the slightest problem! Converting means of "intact" (!) AVIS files works perfectly.
Is there a (freeware would be nice) tool, the specifications of AVI files, reads and finds errors? My Ulead Media Studio has the "Smart Check", which finds files that do not adapt to the preferences and then converted.
There are, however, all 3 versions of AVI files (so) OK!
If we look at any reasonable technical explanation can agree is synonymous not bad. I am a pragmatist and s.einem functioning only "work-flow" option.
Liebe Grüße!
Klaus
Antwort von robbie:
If we look at any reasonable technical explanation can agree is synonymous not bad. I am a pragmatist and s.einem functioning only "work-flow" option.
Clever software then please buy the work of a workflow, and not on "I can quite a few effects, and what is technically ok, eh know my buyers are not" designed.
examples were already mentioned above, as encore.
Antwort von derpianoman:
Hi Robbie,
I do not believe war to be Nero or any other software.
If I had coal on some things I would like to have "extra" growth.
Nero gave me in all matters for many years served us well.
I would like errors to "understand" before I just the software
damn.
Yes, and thus I am as naive hobby users synonymous forced
something about the technology to learn that I use.
That is to understand, right?
VG Klaus
Antwort von DoBBy:
If I had coal on some things I would like to have "extra" growth. To test whether it really is s.Nero the program and when you burn the disc vermurkst something, you need not spend money. Would you believe thoroughly read the above post, now you knew that you download for free as EncoreDVD and 1 months free can. Thus, you could then burn to your DVD and see if everything works.
You can of course synonymous but continue to ignore this information and now continue s.ewig speculate why these DVDs are vermurkst ...
More tips, we can not give you. Without an additional comparison software "do you not green branch.
BTW: That your DVDs at a bitrate of 5000 kbit / s not just look great, does not surprise me synonymous. Normally you choose (depending on the size of the film material) with the bit rate so that everything just fits so on DVD. Everyone MUST with a bitrate of 7000 or 7500 kbit / s cope. Most come as synonymous nor clear. However, variable bit rate of 7000 each time it must be!
Antwort von derpianoman:
Hi Dobby,
EASY! (why so annoyed? .-)
Of course I read everything: but I am punished poor drip that
aufm village there are no DSL. So just a quick software
ISSS nich runterladen!
But now times have you not mitgelesen:
I have previously always higher burned! Because I should
go down! This was suggested to me, because VHS anyway
much worse! And the draw of SUPER mpgs were "bad",
not of Nero. VORM Burn! So it was not the data!
So always read half and its own solution "rausdonnern"
does not help always. I hope you're not teaching ...
Comparison car: You have a difficult localizable gearbox problem
and will get of the workshop said: Well, Renault, the wonder
I do not. Buy yourself but simply a Volkswagen ...
Or: Take a look one months this beautiful Volkswagen
and enjoy a healing gear .... :-)
Comprende?
VG Klaus
