Frage von biber65:
I myself have such stupid about Google and trust me so little following the forum to ask them (do not hit me, please):
I do not know whether this is always so, or whether I should take some adjustment, but if I have videos on my computer screen (TFT), the watch will always verpixelt. What do I need to check as to allow the leaves? On my laptop I can normally anschaun in good quality.
It is synonymous no preference whether the films I with the Media Player with Quicktime or VLC player mitm, always the same. But as I said: only to the TFTs s.PC and not s.Laptop.
Particularly strong when you see it in the video appears red light (for me at a concert)
I really do not know what I must adjust.
If you have a solution, then ask for PC and Mac because I use the same problem on my iMac synonymous hab
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Primary colors are used in lower Resolutionaufgezeichnet. Also see video images on a TFT fundamentally different than on the TV (not necessarily better), what the gamma of the monitor and the sharpness depends.
Antwort von biber65:
That it looks different than on the television, I know only that it looks completely different than on my laptop which is synonymous barely a year old is ...
yes I know not synonymous. The presentation is totally Grobpixelig. I have the movie but somehow synonymous with high quality can see. DVDs are so synonymous Fair play
Antwort von Markus K.:
For Mac: Open the times in Quicktime MOV and then with the player setting the hook on "If available high quality video" is set.
When PC in Windows Media Player on Tools-> Options-> Performance-> Advanced and go to the slider for "Digital Video" to "big" move.
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
If you put your videos to DVD burning, you'll find that it's not the DVD, which makes good pictures.
Antwort von biber65:
Even after the changes to the settings the same result.
It is said as much to see if pungent blue or red light on the recording is. I can not imagine that the graphics card because abkackt. As I have said it is somehow s.der screen output.
Whether I look in the editing program, with the VLC player, with Quicktime with the Media Player. Always the same
Is it synonymous with you?
Or the screen can tolerate such strong colors just do not?
Antwort von Markus K.:
Can you post an example picture? The color of the screen is already on 32-bit and not only at 16?
Antwort von Eva Maier:
The next piece I've read above is a solution for PC and Mac sought because the graphics card will probably not be, rather the player has a bug if necessary during the recording.
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Antwort von Markus K.:
The next piece I've read above is a solution for PC and Mac sought because the graphics card will probably not be, rather the player has a bug if necessary during the recording.
/ E Relatively unlikely if it on the laptop looks normal ... synonymous with s.Mac can be less than true color to work ;-).
If it's not synonymous but are an example would be a picture or short video helpful example.
Antwort von TommyMeiers:
I will tomorrow times a sample picture posted as soon as it goes. Now back seat s.Laptop, far away from the PC and iMac. Have already made a screenshot just not yet uploaded.
As I said, s.Material themselves do not tend s.der output on the screen. On my laptop I can easily see the material in good quality. The color with the sounds plausible to me already.
I thought that even on 32 bit is set. hm ...
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
I could now repeat again and write that basic colors are not in full DV Resolutionaufgezeichnet be. As you know it but apparently did not understand, which brings you nothing.
Even otherwise it is nothing unusual, if a less fine Video Picture supplies, as films of DVD, the film has been rotated. Often it is synonymous to that of an amateur filmmaker with adequate image size is overwhelmed and details go because he is too far away and / or too wide in the area. Even a poor illumination (eg, use of pure primary colors) can s.sich satisfactory resolution of video effect.
There are numerous articles here about the otherness of computer monitor representations synonymous and some of the magic 4:2:0. Happy searching!
Antwort von Markus K.:
I could also repeat again and write it as if the questioner on the laptop looks good and s.Mac PC and far worse then the problem may be somewhere else ... but without this example, you can make no statement.
It is not synonymous to the fundamental disadvantages of PAL DV 4:2:0 with his Farbsampling, but about why it is on a computer and looks good on 2 other verpixelt.
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
That it looks different than on the television, I know only that it looks completely different than on my laptop which is synonymous barely a year old is ... I do not understand it so that the display on his laptop looks great.
Antwort von Markus K.:
I do not understand it so that the display on his laptop looks great. At least much better than the other two cases, and that yes, there must be a reason given.
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
As already said: Gamma value of monitor
If the bit too low, would not be the problem that he / she is in red, green or blue Resolutionhat lower, but that it is generally between the tones are more levels, which are not visible 32Bit.
It very much depends on how the monitor is calibrated. And there may very well come quickly to deviations that on which one or other monitor of this property does not recognize the DV and the Picture as "better" assessment. Perhaps the depth saufen lights in his / her laptop rather, so that he / she is the coarser resolution not immediately recognize.
He / she needs only the screenshot to examine the various computers.
Antwort von TommyMeiers:
Yes, may well be that it is "normal", I was disturbed everywhere.
here a link to two pictures and one, I think, 5 sec video.
The video comes of a concert that I've added last week (SonyPD 170). And since I have no influence on the illumination.
Just anschaun
http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=1FGK7BY2
If it says' yes, this looks on my screen just shit out "ok, then do I have to accept.
If your settings know how to fix ... her damit!
I am of the lights you already have a surreptitious Michel! And if someone does not understand what there would be but the possibility of him again to explain precisely. Thank you all for any help. Did I already capturing several hours and saves headaches
Antwort von Eva Maier:
When I looked garnicht looks so evil, as described,
somehow like night club, because the videos all look like this.
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Antwort von TommyMeiers:
So, if you have the video with the pictures comparing it to the presentation of her the same?
Or because something is different from?
So in general we can say that it is normal if the video in such an illumination grobpixelig, or how?
Antwort von Markus K.:
Did you this now only for the upload to H.264 compression, or is the native format in which you work?
In any case, I have never been so strong through DV compression artifacts caused seen. Time Treppchen s.harten color, ok, but so strong Verpixelungen never before.
Antwort von Eva Maier:
My statement is currently only on the pictures because my player or my slightly older system does not like the videos, apart from that I'm not a cameraman / woman so badly, I can not judge what is actually possible.
But I have some video so dim, the Germans certainly no better.
So do not panic -;)
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Antwort von TommyMeiers:
No, this is synonymous of when I look at the original material.
As I said, s.schlimmsten is in strong red light.
The material here what I've reingestellt has even complained to my laptop .... that which. I've synonymous but another video that I have done geschnitten hab aufm TFT considered synonymous and it was not exactly exhilarating. Despite Color correction (progressive output)
The Kammbildung is clear, only the fragments ...
And the recording of her? I did during the recording of times synonymous Manual to automatic asked. Also of artificial light to sunlight.
Always the same. Good, I think me, as long as there is on television does not appear, but I need the material is synonymous for the Internet, therefore, of
Thanks to all cases for your efforts
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Since then I have times changed the calculator to tell me about the video - for me it's OK!
Rear gibts a couple of streaks for example, I can not see pixels.
Possibly. but it is s.den different Rechnerkonfigurationern
drum times - Quicktime 7 and ATI X1950
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Antwort von Markus K.:
ATI x800 graphics card, Vegas & Quicktime Pro 7 I see clear pixels education, especially in the last scene (face, shirt, lights).
For me, the artifacts, but rather by the H.264 compression from?
Looks at the DV files directly from the camcorder similar?
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Hey,
you have the same material for
different times captured? (on the PC is playing?)
or is a file that you've moved on Network and of hard drive or DVD open?
Make sure you always have the same file open. Not even an uncompressed avi and even a compressed MPEG video!
Should everything be ensured, it is not s.PC and s.der video file. (On TV, a mpeg-video synonymous better than on the PC, because the TV Resolutionbei SD is much worse. This does not for HD Television or LCDs with higher resolution) Please check the color depth to the properties (desktop -> right click -> Properties -> Settings), make sure that the resolution is set correctly. (eg 1024x768, depending on what the monitor as a "best" Resolutionangibt. In 19 'TFT devices is 1280x1024 resolution than standard fixed)
Check whether you have the latest graphics card drivers installed. (Looks just like this video or is the normal style for each image on your PC? If yes, then necessarily graphics card check! If any picture or video looks normal, it must but s.der file specified).
If you are the material several times have been playing, keep an eye on the import settings and check if your tape still is in order [for example, by re-playing on the laptop or look at the camera, monitor]
(... that is not in the vicinity of a magnet was, "shower" was, in the sun is located, etc.)
Write us your results and s.besten post a picture, you quickly so that we can help! Many greetings,
Constantin
EDIT: Is it DV or HDV video? (In other words, HD or SD resolution?) This could be a completely different problem. Write us the
Resolutionvon your laptop and your TFT monitor. Write us
the details video (4:3 or 16:9, avi or mpeg, etc.)
Antwort von TommyMeiers:
So, once again changed the workplace: Now I sit in front of a MacPro and a 22 "TFT of my brother. (With Ati Radeon)
But it is more of a graphic of him so it never really noticed.
In any case, the DV video so as synonymous.
Whether loaded with iMovie or with Windows Movie Maker.
The files are the same size (1 hour concert 12.3 GB).
For me, just come only 2 plausible explanations you get: TFT camera settings or settings.
As it seems to me is the material as I've sent you is not normal. The material looks in the window as synonymous cut into the players the same way from what I've sent you.
Did the tape 3 times already synonymous captured, slowly tuts mir leid das Ding.
Antwort von Eva Maier:
There is probably no other choice than to burn your DVD to s.TV view. The best on the tube and flounder Comparison.
Otherwise, this video is OK
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Antwort von TommyMeiers:
Well then ichs werd mal burn. See you later
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Hey,
why should it s.den settings, if you see s.Laptop no pixels? Or does the material out there similar?
I must again ask (vll synonymous, it was already mentioned): Film du HD or SD? You transmit (if HD) synonymous with HD or SD in there already?
I have just viewed the video. For me, this looks rather as if it is an export-error would be like if we as a compressed MPEG?
(Apart from the fact that the red light cameras at such fast anyway s.ihre borders) Many greetings,
Constantin
Antwort von TommyMeiers:
So it looks like I think that the camera really comes s.die borders. Have written up so that there is a PD 170 was, therefore, so SD.
I got me some points on the laptop and viewed as they were synonymous so verpixelt. The TFT was seen everywhere in more detail.
Habs now runtergebrannt and viewed on TV and in the places where only rotlicht wars can be seen even on the television verpixelt.
Apparently it was so out of house included. But what can I do to clean camera absorbs synonymous with such a bright light? The Camera is synonymous not just the cheapest.
And the light man, I can not say synonymous: not just red light!
Apart from how to prevent, what can I do in order to save the recording? Synonymous Desaturate will probably not bring too much if the picture is verpixelt
I lad the same time highly Television Photos of the I've made (ie images from the video how they look on the Television)
Antwort von TommyMeiers:
ui, it was quickly
http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=0L8ZDP7B
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Now I do not synonymous, because the Schlieren what I call a very unpleasant effect (37 - 39)
There is good advice is expensive,
If enough material is available you could try the very bad things to replace?
Schade
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Antwort von TommyMeiers:
What can I do still s.der Camera settings so that the red is not so bad across?
Apparently there really kackt from the Camera. Do the same concert with a PD and a Canon MV filmed (in background) and in the MV was the picture in red as synonymous.
The fact that in the PD a CCD can somehow synonymous is defective or not?
In the future I will no longer hold such a material that comes scheisse
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
I find this extremely odd with the fuzzy grid. I do not think that is normal s.der Camera. At your place I would call Sony and ask, or times where the images to you.
Are you sure that you
have not compressed images by you as an mpeg exportierst? The video file you've uploaded, was not synonymous in pure uncompressed avi.
It may well be that in a mpeg compressed video relatively small artifacts are even more extreme (as it so there is a matter of "similar" pixels together in order to save space.)
If you recorded as uncompressed avi, you look in your editing program, if you then have the same artifacts.
Even my 3-Chipper Panasonic NV-MX300, which is significantly smaller than your camera, gets the better out! I guess there is a defect s.der camera before?
Many greetings,
Constantin
Antwort von TommyMeiers:
So now again have several concerts durchgeschaut, with the result:
- Concert 1: SonyPD 150, SonyPD 170, Canon MV 900 (light: bright blue, bright red). Result as shown
- Concert 2: PD p. 150 (2x), bright red: result: as described
- Concert 3: have you seen so
Newly captured: iMovie, Final Cut, Movie Maker
all files larger than 10GB in part to a std.
Defect at the Camera, I can now exclude as 4 different cameras were an older age and a less PD 170 degrees by 5 Heading hours.
tapes again precisely on the Camera LCD viewing. The same! I just not noticed before because the LCD is only 2.5 "in size.
But as I said: same result.
I know now that there are at least s.der recording itself is neither s.der Compression and still s.Capturen or a defective camera.
I would be only interested in how I can avoid in the future, with some settings s.der Camera. Blöderweise is my grad PD of the clean, therefore I have no direct access to it.
Are there any similar experiences has made? The light is for a camera anyway not exactly cheap but still ...
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
First, sorry for the bad start, I wrote in this thread had lain. Was probably because the internet here at my cucumber fingers again great tennis with me wants to play. I might just not win.
Now I have the video (the first at least) views, and it fully and completely confirmed my suspicion. That is the problem with chroma subsampling (4:2:0). Your cams are intact.
http://www.doom9.org/capture/images/color.jpg
That should clarify a lot visually.
And because Remedy ntweder:
1. With the help of light after that the guys are not totally immersed in red, but always get brighter. Konzertausleuchter are no friends of film crews, but the hope dies last. Otherwise, the subject is as unfit for your equipment.
2. You turn with a better camera with subsampling (4:2:2). Or on film:)
Then you'll get the post in such situations the saturation rausnehmen, making the picture faded, but fine afterwards drawn, because the gray is so light and so will be in full Resolutiondargestellt. An example that something is done quite often, can be found in "Run Lola Run". The memory sequences with Moritz and Franka in bed were Knallrot movies, on VHS, it was orange. How it looks on DVD, I do not know ... but I can imagine that it is synonymous Orange.
I would be in this case but more times with the lighting people to take a bottle of wine.
Antwort von TommyMeiers:
That reminds me echt mal a stone from the heart. I was already s.verzweifeln. I've only recently the 22 "TFT of me so I was not sure.
Only in the course of the thread, I was so much clear.
Conclusion is great and all that the camera the colors just do not pack and I Lichtlern in the ass creep needs. Helps ja nix.
I've previously schonmal rumprobiert and the Picture and a desaturated Gauschen Blur draufgelegt. Was better, but is not synonymous solution in the long run.
Have many many thanks for your help. Thus, the Sunday rescued
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
The gausche Wichzeichner leaves the picture are blurred. I think too blurred. On TV, you will think that the cameraman could not make sharp. Since then you have to use masks, what the whole thing is extremely expensive.
See again the analog output on the material directly to s.Television! I can not so somehow believe that it really was only s.Rotlicht! (If I somehow too extreme for such a Camera! Artifacts are normal, but not to a degree.)
Next time talking with the lighting, sometimes it helps to already have a hide and less to take in the Postpro then contrast and brightness to change? (How are the experiences?)
Many greetings,
Constantin
Antwort von TommyMeiers:
It is both in the red light as synonymous in the blue to be seen. Stop it surprised me that a camera such as the PD 170 does not cope with something.
With the present material, I can not do next than the best out of, so help nix. In the future beaasen lighting.
The 4:2:0 sampling with which I have still not completely understood. Do I have time Google. Most explanations, however, specifically arg.
Nice that we here in this forum meets on knowing ;-)
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
So what has changed, if you get the material through the analog output s.TV anschaust?
I could bet it looks much better (a few artifacts are normal). Maybe try again?
Otherwise, I was the opposite. ;)
Many greetings,
Constantin
Antwort von streetbiker:
Is the Television synonymous pixilated. Just do not stop so bad as on the computer monitor, because the muddy indeed represents
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Oha. Had thought that only the DVD is grainy, but not the picture from the analog output of the camera. Fairly krass these pixels.
Many greetings,
Constantin
