Frage von Andreas_Kiel:
Hi,
I have two clips, from completely different materials and come independently with Vegas Movie Studio 8.0d as WMV been rendered (a clip is 320x240, the other is 640x480). There is a strange phenomenon:
Both clips run in Windows Media Player normally calm picture with stand. As soon as I adjust the brightness (and only then!), Shaking the picture to a line like you would with a false Halbbildeinstellung. From now s.zittert is no preference which I still do. I leave the brightness at rest, runs the clip full 45 minutes without shaking. They are the only two WMV files that have something in my show, I suppose, I twisted something in Vegas.
But VLC plays two clips perfectly normal and without Zick from no preference what I do, synonymous to the DivX Player, the files are ok ...
GSpot like for some reason not properly ran, I simply no warrior so that analysis.
If I should post a sample, please tell.
BG,
Andreas
Antwort von Marco:
Reversed fields are highly unlikely, since in a WMV or Vegas Movie Studio out inevitably progressive rendering. In addition, the Effect would then always occur, not only to change the brightness in the player.
That looks more likely after an error from the player.
Marco
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Hi,
somehow the worm is totally in it, as I now also see: once a few come in fast movements, jerky extremely creepy synonymous with the small resolution. Yesterday created DVD plays perfectly normal.
Now I take a very short clip and try with it.
More conspicuous: the rendering into MPEG2 for a DVD went ratzfatz. WMV lasts and lasts and lasts ... I can progress in the preview monitor: there are 25 frames to render, then come four to five wait, then again 25 frames and so next. On a 70-second part of the calculator is a quarter of an hour.
Everything else (MOV, MPG, even m2t) is quite normal and quickly finished .. naja, will be a long night.
Ideas?
BG,
Andreas
EDIT: So, now I finally get a 70-second clip is uploaded, this is the third attempt with a Glibberbild in WMP. Can the error someone please try to understand? As I said: starts normally, then "Video Settings" and change the brightness has flickered. The bucking is even mentioned here at 0:30 visibly :-(((
The clip is as usual at rapidshare (yes, I know, are better):
http://rapidshare.de/files/39702253/rendertest.wmv.htmlEDIT 2: does the least self-Mucke this :-)
Antwort von Marco:
I can currently only set to 'nem Mac sift. What I have noticed is the poor image quality (probably by the low data rate) and an interruption s.verschiedenen bodies (eg the wind turbines). Whether I am on this system (with the QTP) s.der brightness change something, otherwise nothing will change.
If the WMV version 23.9 fps with intentionally rendered?
Marco
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
I can currently only set to 'nem Mac sift. What I have noticed is the poor image quality (probably by the low data rate) and an interruption s.verschiedenen bodies (eg the wind turbines). Whether I am on this system (with the QTP) s.der brightness change something, otherwise nothing will change.
If the WMV version 23.9 fps with intentionally rendered?
Marco
The picture quality is really the very last for WMV, data rate is too low, the doubling times I. The deadlock in the wind turbines, I have not even when playing of m2t. Here I note that in WMP the Picture s.den wings somehow seems to remain hanging, jumping the line is the halting of the violent image ...
As a frame rate 25 fps, I had set, definitely and precisely followed. Where does the number 23.9 come from?
I gave the times "quickly" with a doubled bitrate 500 kb / s from, other settings see hardcopy.
Let's see what the result looks like:
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Hab mal Google .... There was questioned in a thread, which makes it possible s.dem Graphics Drivers could.
Test the times ... Who knows.
Otherwise, almost all were most Probs with new installations of the latest WMP resolved, but no one described a brightness problem.
MfG
B. DeKid
Geb dir but wmv is right for the Popo and the WMP synonymous.
Question appear on the Probs synonymous if the material is 720 x 576?
Antwort von Marco:
"Where does the number 23.9 come from?"
To interpret the Quicktime player on my Mac. I have it in me to see Vegas.
Marco
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Hab mal Google .... There was questioned in a thread, which makes it possible s.dem Graphics Drivers could.
Test the times ... Who knows.
Hi,
in the configuration of the calculator is running smoothly with all that he should spend, since it is Vegas. On the software environment has been nothing but the XP updates changed. I suppose, in WMV, I eventually was inadvertently twisted.
Question appear on the Probs synonymous if the material is 720 x 576?
No, no piece. Have them (source material was HDV) a DVD, which beautifully and without zig running everywhere. No bucking, and rendered completely fix (45 minutes material in about 2 hours).
Play runs through WMV, 768x432, the same film willl 9 hours to render! Quicktime is even faster than MPG (DVD), Real Media, I still try, but I would be surprised if this would have become slower.
Another addendum: Parts of the material (demo clip) were already half a year ago in a DVD and synonymous for an "Internet" trailer completely synonymous to WMV easily used as synonymous is not a worm in it.
Thank you so far as first,
beg for more ideas: that is the K * tzen, WMV and I would immediately enter into the garbage, if I could be certain the audience would be the clip synonymous guaranteed without installation of any players ...
: - / /
BG
Andreas
Antwort von Markus:
More conspicuous: the rendering into MPEG2 for a DVD went ratzfatz. WMV lasts and lasts and lasts ...
Alternatively, you could synonymous to take Windows Media Encoder. This would have you targeted access to each desired parameter and the bargain would be synonymous Render time refreshingly short.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Hi,
the WME know I did not, but the approach sounds more than interesting: If I were in Sony Vegas geschnitten have, I give of the material from there as MPG and turn off the DVD by the Architect in three, four minutes into DVD format (to be yes not a new rendering).
Do you now, the generated file to MPG, Windows Media Encoder as a tasty morsel to accuse and to spend as WMV?
BG, Andreas
Antwort von Markus:
Do you now, the generated file to MPG, Windows Media Encoder as a tasty morsel to accuse and to spend as WMV?
That you could try, because the MPG file it is already there. If the quality is okay, that would be an option.
Normally I do with a less strong (single-) compressed format s.den WME approached.
Antwort von Marco:
I did for me on Windows is now synonymous with the WMP test, but I can assure you of Effect described not understand. For me, nothing changes in the presentation, if I change the brightness.
The wind turbines show exactly the same deadlock as when playing with the Quicktime Player. That shows me each player.
I got me the file then synonymous times viewed directly in Vegas. So the info of the Quicktime player, it would be a 24 fps video, is definitely wrong (from Quicktime Player should now synonymous not expect much more zuuu ...;)). It is - as expected - the normal 25 fps.
I see in Vegas, but synonymous, that the deadlock is not generated from the player, but image content. The deadlock occurs s.einigen still other places, there just is not so clearly visible, because hardly any movement in the picture is.
In WMV format as this depends not. WMV is great. I use it often and be happy - always made with Vegas. I suspect that somewhere actually incorrect settings in the way have come, but in retrospect, to find, can be difficult.
Thus, if the WME for you is an alternative and it does so, it would be so great. Otherwise you could have me any time your Movie Studio Projektfile charge. Maybe it reminds me of something.
Marco
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Hi,
So until here ever thank you very much, I have to sit all day (or more accurately since yesterday afternoon) s.diesem stupid problem. The bucking of the wind turbines will definitely be of a small data rate. Of course it is neither in the source material still exists on the DVD, even Vegas Movie Studio displays a smooth movement in the Preview. Now I sit for a 768x432 resolution video up to 1000 times.
I have a clip of a departing steam train (wheels touched nearly Micro), as submitted, for example, the setting 500 is not synonymous ...
I am reassured, however, times that the line flickering only occurs with me. If nobody else has, I would think no preference. I will now not only my new calculator on suspicion up: this is the winter there.
@ Markus
Normally I do with a less strong (single-) compressed format s.den WME approached.
Would it be a sensible way, with the DV-AVI to try?
And the next question (sigh): hülfe it, the whole place with CBR with 2-pass VBR coding (500 average rate, 750 or 1000 peak rate)? If yes synonymous downloadable remain behind :-)
BG,
Andreas
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Yes DV AVI of MPEG not (so I always take the source material and renders all of this material)
VBR is always good (I personally take synonymous rather than Constant)
Again on the System Settings, then Direct X Drivers GrKa and you can always take the latest.
Do you have a Lap or 2nd PC on which you can test this?
Alla
MfG
B. DeKid
PS: The wind turbines - is the Web version of the DVD is progressive and interlaced? Could that be a vital problem?
Antwort von Marco:
"The wind turbines - is the Web version of the Progressive and Interlaced DVD? Could a sticking point?"
No, the effect has nothing to do with the deinterlacing and progressive play to do. There are real image errors, which there often, but not regularly occur.
Marco
Antwort von B.DeKid:
ok thx
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Hi,
So now is the Geruckel away with VBR. The render takes but still miserably long - that was "previously known as" different. But there are some other format and need to make the box just Nachtschicht ;-)
So much anger für nen 3.5-minute trailer, hard to believe. Here is the result with VBR encoding, the size is obviously increased, but significantly lower than with "solid" 1000th
http://rapidshare.de/files/39711845/rendertest_vbr.wmv.htmlBesten Dank soweit,
Andreas
EDIT: I have the Media Player under Tools | Options | Services | Video Acceleration | Advanced | Video Acceleration "the hook on" video "is removed, and lo and behold, I can adjust the brightness again synonymous change, without any flickering. So that is synonymous solved :-))))))
Antwort von Marco:
How high is because the rendering time for this 3.5 minutes?
And what exactly was your source material?
Many Filters / Effects / animation in the Project?
Marco
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Hi,
Render time is probably at 45 minutes (70 sec ~ 10 minutes). This is true even for NEN Athlon 2800 + too bad, and yes it was "sooner" synonymous faster. A PAL DV-AVI from the 70-s demo to make any event not take 3 minutes.
I have done it but not yet, because I have a voice commentary to add, but at the moment rather Daffy doing ;-)
Starting material was completely normal HDV material. Effects, I do not have it, except a few long crossfades is because nix. Some of doubt, but I have not even s.den colors rotated ;-) I swear!
The self-made music was first MP3, and in the hope that it would, I am against the WAV exchanged, but to no avail.
BG,
Andreas
Antwort von Marco:
My X2 4600 renders 3:30 HDV in 13 minutes to WMV with this resolution. Perhaps put it in some way. A 2.800er is already relatively slow, with this WMV rendering is a compute-intensive scaling and deinterlacing an add to this long and visors something because you have to actually already have done even more, because your earnings is no more like 16:9 the original, but 4:3 Letterbox, so a further scaling.
Marco
Addendum:
Sorry, there is no X2 4.600, but an X2 4,200 +. In relation can's still fit, especially when I render my Test still a higher data rate was used so that the compression process was not so expensive.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Hi,
the 4:3 letterbox is that Sony Vegas with the standard sizes 320x240, 640x480 etc. dranhängt the bar car. You get them while away, but then stretcht the video to the top and bottom.
At this setting, I try at first does not synonymous nor rumgedreht in order not to despair completely.
Only in the last clip (VBR) Resolutionauf I have a 16:9 compatible value, 384x216. The trailer should be ready to get 768x432.
But up to the gates, there is really nothing next to it. When the aperture is not much slower than normal.
I now have a part in 720p output, but had the lack of time to cancel. Even then - and this is just scaled - it is much faster, of course, it's Quicktime: 70 seconds in 1.280x720 are available in 6 minutes, with WMV, it is well above 10 for 384x216 - blatant as it gets, and WMV was really a lot faster.
Well, in winter, the PC set up .. until then I get so good. A DVD is yes still very fix :-)))
BG
Andreas
