Frage von neminem:
Hello wanted me a camera and wants to growth in the future to work on several occasions, the camera should only be used for wedding reception sein.Da thought but differences exist between our wedding and the art of art here to there lands,
I would like you to explain how the environment looks like our weddings (Turkish wedding) so the weddings are always in a hall and go instead of 16:00 clock to 00:00 so long, and it is quite loud synonymous stop just because there are muzik .
partly as respec s.anfang on the way to the wedding is synonymous draussen filmed.Ich had because now s.eine shoulder camera thought the very long recording times, the good with the light clearly comes out as synonymous as in free as synonymous in the hall . At the conclusion, I would record on a DVD burn.
The camera is not professional camera with all his SCHNICK Schnack.
For my money would not aussreichen, so rather average camera, giving me good shots and provide a good sound recording. Thanks in advance for any reply.
Antwort von tommyb:
Without knowing your budget is a recommendation difficult.
Antwort von neminem:
Well around 2500 euro, I thought.
Antwort von pilskopf:
Woho. Irre buy you just about ne Glidecam. Especially with wedding films is a popular means.
Antwort von domain:
The newer cameras are all synonymous bright enough for indoor shots.
Should the wedding video, however, important for the bride's people, then I would strongly advise you to shoot at least an amateur with a long experience to be a specialist or even to engage.
Turkish weddings usually with about a hundred guests are a great event with enormous cost, since it will be at Euro 1000 -2000 for a good video is no longer synonymous arrive.
At the same time so you can even synonymous mitfilmen and then your results with professional results compare synonymous or even own a small and very personal video without pressure and responsibility.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... to the 2500 euro I thought ... For the camera alone, or even completely with at least allernotwendigsten like Tripod, Microphone, head light, etc.?
Antwort von neminem:
The newer cameras are all synonymous bright enough for indoor shots.
Should the wedding video, however, important for the bride's people, then I would strongly advise you to shoot at least an amateur with a long experience to be a specialist or even to engage.
Turkish weddings usually with about a hundred guests are a great event with enormous cost, since it will be at Euro 1000 -2000 for a good video is no longer synonymous arrive.
At the same time so you can even synonymous mitfilmen and then your results with professional results compare synonymous or even own a small and very personal video without pressure and responsibility. Thank you for responding, just be more of the recordings because the same people aufgenohmen man and knows exactly synonymous to the relationship is one of None amateuer all professional recordings, as you said I've synonymous with a handy cam at a betrothal aufgenohmmen and see because the recordings were not worse than that because of the people made this for years so do the contracts will remain with us if you understand what I and my doing in the rest of the shoulder with its camera with film vhs therefore quite old dinger.
Antwort von neminem:
... to the 2500 euro I thought ...
For the camera alone, or even completely with at least allernotwendigsten like Tripod, Microphone, head light, etc.? So I would say that is completely 2500euro not agile it will then try to show we have received quite a lot of weddings to celebrate good taste.
Antwort von tommyb:
Rent the equipment you prefer. Is cheaper in the long term, you have good equipment and the costs you can go further.
Antwort von neminem:
already clear, we just have quite a lot of weddings and we say, most men would give me orders müste then I always make rum wegem hire and also I would prefer my own camera because I am with because recordings and because programs can be as familiar as film, I must indeed synonymous later, which would bring me nothing if the client 1 or 2 months of waiting because I have no idea how the man uses everything I would like a few months to have practice.
Antwort von Chezus:
SonyVX2100
Antwort von domain:
... the shots were not worse than that because of the people made this for years so do the contracts will remain with us if you understand what I and my doing in the rest of the shoulder with its camera with film vhs therefore quite old dinger .
Understand, but I think it is a pity that for you one more Turkish than skill.
My experience in Sao Paulo was in any event in the German-speaking "minority" of at least 200 000-million in this city, that they do not like the ghettos themselves Chinese or Japanese and furthermore lived a perfect Portuguese-speaking foreigners and locals in their farms and households employed or just worked together with them.
But perhaps when your sons and daughters so synonymous times running, that not all of you will stay and have expertise and skills will count more ....
Antwort von neminem:
versteh not misunderstand me I will ne camera and no moral preaching can you please remain factually times.
Antwort von domain:
That's no problem, just use your expert on the Council relatives, friends or acquaintances s.oder those of the media market sellers.
No. times seriously, you can be almost any camera to ¬ 3000th - take (mainly she has a handle), but even the smaller ones are doing their duties adequately.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
http://www.schnittzwerk.com/site/content/uverkauf/uverkauf.php?UKATEGORIE=1&UKATEGORIE_SUB=81
there SonyDCR VX-2000E
or a Canon XL1S
For this example, this http://www.fotokoch.de/fotowelt/Bilora_Stativ_Video_Pro_Doppelprofil_25673.shtml?prepage=stative.shtml
Tripod.
Something light, perhaps, possibly UV Wide Angle Adapter for the essay or the Canon WW (wide angle) lens, cheap remote LANC Remote control cable
Another indicative of Rhode Micro or with Sennheiser Windfell
Good bags ala PELI
You do not need more
Da kommst synonymous with the money out (2500 Eur)
Super SD quality - directly to DVD without much out-flammable and her - completely Reg.
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I have few synonymous NEN Kurdish / Turkish / Albanian friends since I've been more synonymous photos or video recordings made, or which one of my cameras borrowed, with the result were always at peace.
TIP - make NEN glass on donations, where the uncle as a short video message before its Stoffleihnwand standing, on the video can speak for the pair - always good s.and brings some fast NEN Mark ;-)
then if you still NEN few euros left did you buy a cheap tripod and a used mini-DV camera - the space can be static or abfilmen nem present at some times in the hand are pressed for more shots to make - and is ultimately synonymous to to restore the material on the computer used.
Softwear When you then use something like Pinnacle Studio
Alla wenns more questions are simply reported
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von neminem:
Thank you but this is mal ne antwort.
Antwort von domain:
An answer already, but you really want with SD in the past to start?
I would not do it, HD is probably mandatory nowadays.
Antwort von DWUA:
Reinhartshausen factually:
Plane into your budget
and a lot of good with one.
Camera and recording technology are available for your project rather
secondary.
You know what is ...
;))
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... HD is arguably now mandatory ... Given the current quality scale
I ... ... with a handy cam ... .. Other aufgenohmmen the recordings were not worse than that, because of the people are made ... the shoulder with its camera with film vhs ... is a very good SD camera like the SonyVX2000/2100 certainly not the worst choice - especially if the final product should be a DVD.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
It may be synonymous like ne of HV30 or HF100 Canon take but I think it is because of its class ala XL1S or VX2000 has a lot more rauskitzeln, and it looks like Pro synonymous yet, then it may be synonymous after a short time the work pay let.
And earn $ 500 to be quite fast (Tip Jar See Note)
So I find HD (v) is not obligatory, rather ne clean and good concept and fun s.der work (to eat enough so since then)
MfG
B. DeKid
** EDIT ** So for my cameras (video) I have 4 large pro Cam ... so I can Roundabout 4-5 hours to cover. ***
Antwort von neminem:
Also ich hab mir mal SonyDCR the VX-2000E viewed and read with care the model actually gives me the color and just because I do not have to shoulder what I actually quite important to SD or HD does not play a role, I think maybe later on.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... DCR-VX 2000E ... care model in which I am actually the color ... Why this?
Antwort von cutaway:
Hi,
will remain so only the
SonyHVR-HD1000E left.
Regards
cutaway
Antwort von neminem:
... DCR-VX 2000E ... care model in which I am actually the color ...
Why this? Because I read that the color s.einem The disadvantage is the lack of sharpness setting. These can be with a black and white viewfinders better adjusted. and I am sure that, after the whole record just because scrap was blurred zb
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Holst Dir ne shoulder condition fits the
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Color s.einem disadvantage is the lack of sharpness setting. These can be with a black and white viewfinders better adjust ... That's true in principle even if it is a black and white viewfinder tube acting (thus with a tube, such as former Television and not with an LCD). With them is to really focus more easily, they only exist in this camera class virtually non-existent.
Such a shoulder-equipped camera that used in your price range is, for example, would be the JVC GY-DV500. But beware: The handling of such cameras differs vastly smaller of the consumer camcorder and requires a decent level s.Einarbeitungszeit. BTW: I turn themselves very much with the VX2100 and had no difficulty in the Picture scharfzustellen. So are bad color display and folding is not at all.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
You can NEN B / W Viewfinder for the canon of the purchase cost 2500 euros but well that's what makes it really is not her .... I recommend you do not on sollche spielchen now to concentrate, but the time to create ;-)
Also searched anyway to 80% on the AF is thus and thus relatively unimportant.
MfG
B. DeKid
PS: But you see that you you've ever read, it is of advantage.
PS2: How come since her?
Antwort von Chezus:
I do not understand why all always have a shoulder camera wenns want to go to weddings.
Eventually someone must have said: "Boah ey, had the full team on the television of his wedding booked. Oschi full of giant on the shoulder ..."
Come s.dass the thought of you at the wedding so that better work.
I do not know how a Turkish wedding expires. I know how a typical Bavarian wedding synonymous expire if I may on one hand was full. And one time I've filmed (Friends service). Filming weddings? From my perspective: I never do again ...
Anyway, I go into detail bissl times:
Marriage situation: you have the bride and groom as well as possible to get picture. Means that most of the front and therefore synonymous usually very close s.Brautpaar. With a shoulder mill may have been quite striking impact and look at any s.anstatt thee the bride and groom ...
The VX (or any other "Henkel camera"), the effect on the other hand, quite compact (which it is synonymous)
You are mobile and inconspicuous
Situation after the ceremony: possibly try his hand while filming the people dancing. With a shoulder camera around the dancing mob spinning falls much harder than the Henkelmann s.Henkel to and from all perspectives (bird, frog, which is synonymous always) the people to film.
Dicker bolide or Henkelmann or not: the quality counts and in my view is the mobility.
Henkel Take a compact camera offers good quality and you buy me out of a shoulder essay.
Then you have the function but not the additional kg ...
You can use the VX synonymous as "decorate" that what she looks like.
Light drauf
Windscreens
ext.
Shoulder Paper
Matte
and Other and ...
Antwort von neminem:
From Karlsruhe is my worry but I still between 300 or 400 people and if I'm me at the set would be a blending of shoulder-cam beneficial precisely because rucklern circulation and ne shoulder I will not think that much maybe the shoulder pads, but whether it wegem bucking or running what brings hmm, I just can not stand when ruckler man in the footage has so let me give an schultercam. or a simple accessory to the shoulders, but I then synonymous drann can not and when I cam only set up the tripod schulterung s.machen muss.Muss man just looking for everything there.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
I use my XL1S shoulder almost never use - just looks s ** seem so from the angle of view - you do not need quasi ;-)
I want to move times of the bottom of the top times times led to fax halt so ne Steadycam small as it is of advantage.
(Did not I unfortunately :-( I must me for the NEN Sonyzulegen as toys - my steady promoters, only 20 minutes then you have a first break - and need a squire you help from the "defense" to come - everything nix for weddings, too narrow, too much movement and gewussel.
As the HDV would be the Canon XH A1 of synonymous nor recommended.
The result is clean and in combination with the XL H1 is the really cool place too.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von neminem:
B. Dekit what would you recommend me now xl A1 would be one way or the hammer if I needed it and they would get in my price range would be if I would buy all times.
DCR VX-2000E is a credible lösüng I am yet to hear'm proposing thanks for each bar.
Antwort von ed-media:
How would a second hand JVC HD100 as a shoulder mounted camcorder
with monochrome viewfinders?
Antwort von DWUA:
I do not understand why all always have a shoulder camera wenns want to go to weddings.
I do not know how a Turkish wedding expires ..... Why flagging you then say?
(With a Bavarian, it has nothing, absolutely nothing s.Hut;
not synonymous, if that is equipped with Gamsbart).
You can practices within the Alps are not with those beyond
compare the Bosporus.
With a
"real" Turkish wedding with between 500 to
1000 guests (in Istanbul less than in the Ruhrpott) are
all those who are proud to hand over cash donations, including
presented. This is common practice. Woe to him who is not enough
with you. Bordering s.Beleidigung.
Therefore, it is already obvious that something
neminem "Bigger" is looking to get between dance, food, children's activity
and other people with his batch Camera somewhat
enforce them.
That is that. Not like with exposure problems on a
Standesamt in Böfingen.
;)))
Antwort von neminem:
DWUA it looks like and not a bit otherwise.
Antwort von neminem:
How would a second hand JVC HD100 as a shoulder mounted camcorder
with monochrome viewfinders? Sure what would you offer?
Antwort von TiMovie:
I used to always weddings with a SonyHDR FX1 (; or Z1) filmed!
just needed to get super cheap! you can rotate in HD and SD export - has an excellent automatic transmission, where beginners and co synonymous not much can go wrong, the only weakness is wenns dark (but not synonymous worse as Canon, JVC and co) - but you need way or a head light!
when you get e *** for 20, - after being sorely missed!
What I heartily recommend you can be with a handheld cam - get a leg to stand shoulder!
for example, in the Church with tripod to film is not a hit, you're not flexible enough, I always stand shoulder with gefilm!
In any case what is important is the good sound!
Camera
Head light
Tripods
-Microphone
Shoulder Stand
Good night!
Antwort von Chezus:
@ DWUA
that's exactly the point. If really 1000 people at the wedding, why should then a camera shoulder of advantage?
Since then the guests if they do not go aside aside ram can be beautiful?
Precisely because it is important to be mobile and from any perspective to filming.
The last big festival that I had filmed were 25,000 people. I was glad no padding on the shoulder to have.
But that's my opinion and this is the thread creator to know, not that it ever cam later in the way to go.
Besides, he has his price even more choice in terms of "handles men"
Antwort von neminem:
would be the SonyHVR-HD1000E not aussreichend for wedding reception?
Antwort von shodushitanaka:
Not easy.
HVR-HD1000E - not really super great but enough, or good, to impress flay (unfortunately a big factor in the audience of those weddings, I know her too well). I did years ago s.and to ausgeholfen times. You will unfortunately not even taken seriously, or mandated, if you with its "mere" Cam angetänzelt come.
But since the finished DVD s.Ende counts more than the "Boah, the ne fette Camera" during the wedding, I would thee synonymous to a good Henkelman a la SonyFX1 guessing. Will not regret it and you can also much more flexible snake through the crowd.
Gruss
Antwort von neminem:
And NEN link someone knows where I spent bekomm. bite to help.
Antwort von neminem:
how about the Canon XH-A 1E needed for 2350, - ¬ net the sony fx 1 hab I unfortunately can not be found used.
Antwort von domain:
Both cameras have optical make quite an impressive and you are likely to be just right. However, it seems to me the price over each Used 2000 .- rather than excessive. At least the FX1 seems synonymous incidentally 5 years after publication is still a virgin to give, it is extremely robust and easy to handling and, in contrast to a high-quality Canon and quieter drive without errors.
If you're but an inventor, then the Canon is certainly a better camera, especially synonymous with high quality XLR microphone connectors, etc.
Antwort von neminem:
So I get my Canon XH-A 1E which has convinced the blender, I can then synonymous in future good use and abuse me not much to worry as I said I've found for a used but like domain 2350euro says I find it overpriced synonymous because mann they have to get new 2800euro So whether it's worth the hmm my s.euch ask her if she needed more favorable irgennd've seen where I would be grateful for any info.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... how about the Canon XH-A 1E needed for 2350, - ¬ net ... This corresponds to the Neupreis and is used for a device (of Schnittzwerk?) Is definitely too expensive, even if another is Pelicase.
Antwort von friuli:
Hello,
I would look at the synonymous HMC 151 watch, running with 32 GB card
3h mind without media change, is bright, weitwinklig, wear, fairly easy in 720p mode for slow motion of air and you have not been s.nächsten hours to restore the tapes, but USB ruckzuck beams on the whole in the calculator. With Pinnacle Studio Ulti (includes Vita Scene) You can a little bling-blige fit and ready.
Good Camera is the EWAS over the budget but the reserves so synonymous a certain value and head drum lessons are not an argument anymore.
The only times I wanted to argue so, because I myself have been synonymous at a henna celebration landed there and I actually stop and announced Top Hold soo much since then is not synonymous geschnitten.
The only times s.Rande
Antwort von neminem:
Your suggestions bring me nothing if you call me no alternative with the introduction of the price I have is either because mann Preiss krietisieren or the camera rarely griegt man but a proposal with camera and Preiss. So I would buy a used synonymous if they are in my price would be the concepts would be so 2500euro and there should be synonymous with some accessories if only camera I would like to spend 2200euro said synonymous ne used for.
Antwort von neminem:
And that would be just the cameras to me after a long search intressieren would be the Canon XH A1 or just of SonyHDR FX1 (or Z1) if you are familiar with the other cam as well so forth are always in any case should be a 3rd chip technology and have to be hd.
Antwort von shodushitanaka:
Your suggestions do not bring me ........ rarely griegt mann but a proposal with camera and Preiss What you actually beschwerst. There were many good ideas from different areas and classes are, so you now have a good overview of them.
So pack to buy and you ne camera, before you even ne HV30, EX1, EOS 5D ...., etc. are offered. I think this is still a long thread.
Antwort von Chezus:
ich finds a bit of a shame if you are after all the really helpful tips still synonymous start to grumble, because you do not meet all mund served.
YOU want to add a camera might need to buy synonymous YOU decide! A patent, there is no solution for it.
There are lots of threads to deal with precisely this issue and most have disappeared after the 3rd Answer in the closet because of the other threads referenced.
You get tips, so synonymous NEN kick. Now you need to search themselves and not synonymous nor Google the other left.
Do not misunderstand, but a little more gratitude you can have people like B.deKid show instead synonymous nor to criticize it.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
:-) But I was not present,-p
........
But here, so we went next, now I'm on the status of ongoing development.
My tip ....
... no preference whether Canon or Sony, all of you listed Cams are very good ... (Recommendation of the synonymous
friuli was really good - but unfortunately not included in the price range except on funding)
Bzgl price
So if the Cam with 2200 is accounted for, it can again Locker 500 - 800 for Equitment reckon!
Such a purchase or Bilora Vinten Tripod, construction in the shoulder (circulation) brace yourself, buy NEN of UV Hoya or B & W, Thomann on cable and you are going to buy Micro (Rhode) yes and a bag or suitcase better ... Stop light then later (in the form of a light suitcase Tripod with 3 bulbs and a head (camera) light)
Yes and it should go off, much more can we only do not say more.
Go (again) on top of Slashcam - Comparison - compare the models of your choice - find your favorites and try to acquire needed.
And then we can get points s.spezifische go thinking this is useful.
Alla
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von neminem:
B. Dekit
Many thanks for your useful tips.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
No problem - Search s.zu start times, will find something suitable - - You will in any case have a good camera, I hope you use them well and then synonymous you learn to appreciate.
MfG
B. DeKid
** EDIT **
Achso - with SEARCH - I mean the forums some times you like Directing de, de hacker movies and various broadcast provider in the INET observing and following the Camera of your choice out haelen. **
Antwort von B.DeKid:
You can synonymous here in the forum, in the sub-forum: SEARCH short write times
Search Canon XH A1 - like synonymous with accessories - price xy "
Antwort von neminem:
people you can find me still with the head light to explain the long man can use if needed, I do not think the man in a hall much needed light and should hold good and cheap as is the cable with the craft and remain accurate all this man does or gibts synonymous mann one that connects the s.die cam cam ne If for any xh s.sein.Danke antwort.
Antwort von neminem:
oh and what I've forgotten anyone working with Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 for video editing is it proper for the wedding video.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Hi
Adobe Premiere is a good editing software (NLE) using synonymous I can recommend - no preference whether a wedding, documentary or feature film.
But it is not a cut progi (V) FX progi.
................................
Bzgl head lamp, I you can not really give recommendations, because I am hardly familiar with the topic - but is certainly someone you can help further.
MfG
B. DeKid
