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Frage von beiti:


I must advise anyone who needs a program, with which he is DV video and photos, order with spoken comment and can burn to DVD.

The man, however, is no longer young and very inexperienced computer, making it as easy as possible to serve his needs. He already has a computer, but hardly uses it. The idea that something as complex video editing ever s.Computer to make visibly frightens him from, but falls to me no serious alternative.

Only times for orientation:
Previously, he copied videos of MiniDV to S-VHS, is there on the edge of his commentary on track and dubbed the result on the DVD recorder. If he wants to insert pictures (which already digitally available on CD), he gives it back to s.Television filming of it from there, the rest of the path remains the same. The quality, as rauskommt, beggars all description ...

I want it now so gently used s.die idea, photos and videos s.Computer process. Unfortunately, however, are synonymous, the current entry-editing programs with unnecessary functions very cluttered. Elderly Program, which would be functionally perfectly adequate, but have other disadvantages, such as restriction to a fixed screen resolution (800 x 600) or an incompatibility with XP and Vista.

The requirement profile is:
- Reading of MiniDV (4:3) via firewire
- Import of JPEG photos
- Easy positioning of videos and photos in the timeline
- Recording and placement of a spoken commentary
- Issue of the result on DVD

The program will be as concise as possible (or a simple mode offer).
Perhaps there is a "secret tip", of whom I still know nothing.

Or know someone is still an alternative without a computer? That would be him that s.liebsten.

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Antwort von Chezus:

Can the Vista Movie Maker that all? If yes, then let him but with the make or take one of the entry editing programs and explain to him the process step by step.

He should write the whole thing and follow EXACTLY, then it should work, right?

And you know yourself that ALL cut programs every now and restocking errors, with which you simply can not expect

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Antwort von gunman:

The man, however, is no longer young and very inexperienced computer, making it as easy as possible to serve his needs. He already has a computer, but hardly uses it. The idea that something as complex video editing ever s.Computer to make visibly frightens him from, but falls to me no serious alternative.

Hello,

Just as you let the good man and his work describing way I see black. At the slightest problem is he does not know anymore and you know how quickly even as a "tiny" problem.

The only possibility would be a "personal coach" of the "Cutter" during each "session" at least 3 months would accompany ...

My opinion.
Gunman

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Antwort von jogol:

Macro System Casablanca.Das was the box for all the shit in front of the computer had and with one quick and intuitive cut could. Photos could be synonymous importieren.Bei ebay is a drin.Ich not know these things genau.Google times.
Gruss
jogol

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

Ouch ... the good Lord sounds like my mother, with the only difference being that they would have absolutely unmachbar its workflow of DigiLog / anatalen video production synonymous only in the approach to understand! ;-)

I have to give my law prescribing that the very smallest Hickup of Schnittprogis the good Lord would probably already s.Anschlag. From the Introduction to her is a fully digital workflow for him actually probably unrealistic!

Even the handling of a simple Alt-Nokia mobile phones to send SMSs for moms presents a serious obstacle, even though I have a step-by-step recipe leaflet with all eventualities had prepared. Pressing synonymous but only once a wrong button, think of different targets, and thus landed in a (slightly) different-looking menu, it is concluded, Off, Sense, End, Over and Out! Chance!

Reports but we ask next, how the good Lord makes. It happened sometimes signs and wonders! ;-)

I hit two of you in any case heavily thumbs!

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

I would give him first time provide a Mac. The worst thing you can do to older people is Windows, even worse, Vista.

My mother, on 60, tell me what ever of any messages and is simply with the stupidity of this operating system overwhelmed. Constantly is something. I incidentally synonymous, so I took over a year all the places I cut farm converted after 8 years we ourselves have tormented with Windows.

The Mac lets him do whatever he wants, the Windows PC is constantly with him any petty trivial disincentive. With iMovie, then he can start right away and is thus synonymous with things.

And listen at times so, for old people to keep stupid. If he chooses and is interested in doing this, he will come to three can count on.

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Antwort von thos-berlin:

I think Casablanca for not a bad idea, but as I understand it, involves the use of an existing PC.

I think the first step should be an Introduction into the computer s.sich be. This git is synonymous Adult courses, z.Tl. even specifically for seniors. This is the tool that unbeding is needed to Begrifffsklärung alone.

Only when the fear of the computer itself has a little, you can continue with further steps to make. I think that a suitable program could be Magix. Not too expensive and with clear functions. The Movie Maker for my taste is not so simple ... But no preference, which program is chosen, an extensive training will be needed as synonymous. Important: make your own and can not only perform and then ask: "Everything clear?"

Perhaps a program synonymous should be chosen for the video tutorials to learn or DVDs there. If you're lucky, will be synonymous in this area is a DVD course offered.

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Antwort von beiti:

Quote: My mother, on 60, tell me what ever of any messages and is simply with the stupidity of this operating system overwhelmed. Constantly is something. I incidentally synonymous, so I took over a year all the places I cut farm converted after 8 years we ourselves have tormented with Windows. Strange. Just gave it to me, as I found during the training needed to work with Macs.

I do not think it makes sense, the man to recommend a system, with which I myself have no experience. Then there is nobody who can help when times are "stuck". And nobody can tell me that on a Mac today absolutely everything runs smoothly ...

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Antwort von Chezus:

I wanted to say self synonymous (ie with the Mac) ... Mac since I already have so often recommended, but slowly some think that I was committed of Apple ...

Seriously, the smallest Macbook wär really the ideal solution.
iMovie is really easy to use.

The integration of iPhoto and iMovie is perfect, so he certainly will have fun and sounds it can easily integrated with the MicroStation record.

Kommt halt drauf s.was he wants to spend. Stop thinking that he was not so long as to be incorporated on a mill with Windows Vista and its much more fun.

Since I got my parents a Macbook've pressed onto the eye, is the part around the clock. Whether music, video or still image. My father is constantly buying stuff for it! Latest achievements: iPhone and AirTunes!

He wants as synonymous only the stuff that works and he is nothing technical system must take care

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

"beiti" wrote: Quote: My mother, on 60, tell me what ever of any messages and is simply with the stupidity of this operating system overwhelmed. Constantly is something. I incidentally synonymous, so I took over a year all the places I cut farm converted after 8 years we ourselves have tormented with Windows. Strange. Just gave it to me, as I found during the training needed to work with Macs.

I do not think it makes sense, the man to recommend a system, with which I myself have no experience. Then there is nobody who can help when times are "stuck". And nobody can tell me that on a Mac today absolutely everything runs smoothly ...


No, but still much, much more intuitive and direct than on a PC. Windows and Mac OS nervt makes his job easy. I'm switching, no PC hasser. The problem is the transition, but for a newcomer is not.

With Windows, the project is doomed to failure, and with Vista, he will feel patronized, because it constantly inquires whether one is serious about this issue and probably 1000 of 1000 cases with "Yes" answer. Since you are verblödet, an elderly person ever.

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Antwort von beiti:

"thos-berlin" wrote: I think Casablanca for not a bad idea, but as I understand it, involves the use of an existing PC. Yes and no. The existing computer is a notebook with 2 GHz Celeron, Firewire jack and WinXP. For DV-cut should be enough. However, lacking a DVD Burners, and with the existing hard drive, you probably do not synonymous far. This establishes the idea suggested instead Purchase external attachments like to purchase something new. And s.dieser body could perhaps synonymous Casablanca come into play - although I still have less idea than the Mac. In particular, I look at the various (historical) Versions through.

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

If it is because Vista NEN get heart attack because it is the 100th time in the sack, he goes out and dies: then you are DEBT!

And if it because of the whole Windows garbage you want and lose stupid dies, THEN ALSO!

From the Mac you have no idea. You forget everything you know about computers to think and turns it on. Done!

MB

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Antwort von beiti:

"Marc ball home" wrote: The problem is the transition, but for a newcomer is not. I would have to drill again after how well or poorly his computer skills are. After all, he said the notebook a few years. I suspect however, that he is so far only for word processing, etc.. has used, so the idea of him, so synonymous to edit videos, it seems bizarre.

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Antwort von beiti:

"Marc ball home" wrote: From the Mac you have no idea. You forget everything you know about computers to think and turns it on. Done! At the Macs that I know have, unfortunately, does not work. Is but a few years ago. Since there were floppy disks, and their handling alone was an adventure - because the stupid Mac had no eject button. I was fortunately in time someone showed how to do it. But there was synonymous fellow students, in their desperation the disk with a nail scissors from the drive have drilled ... : (

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Antwort von Marco:

I do not think that the OS now plays a role, if only the introduction into the handling is well done. Moreover, each OS is still relatively well-synonymous customize. If already some experience in dealing with Windows, there is no reason for a change.

To choose the program I am not much a. Precisely because I have already learned how hard people with clear and simple goals with "flexible" programs do, even if our one they hold for extremely simple.
But generally it can be useful in the selected program then an empty dummy Project according to the wishes of the user and apply this dummy project then onto a USB stick to store, making it by autorun file auto-starts when the stick is inserted. Or the program via OS startup and already with the system startup to start them, if on the computer then nothing else needs to be done. It helps every step that the user does not even do a function and look for.

iMovie as the program would be in such a case, already not a bad choice. But if a Mac dedicated her needs and no one is tangible, this system knows a little bit, bring's really not much. Otherwise, the choice s.einfach designed programs already quite large (such as Pinnacle Studio or Ulead Video Studio). Perfect fit and will not be safe synonymous worth a closer look at the Movie Maker. Exotics, the ninth and no one knows used, I would have for such purposes with care. Simple is not synonymous with problems.

Marco

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

"beiti" wrote: "Marc ball home" wrote: From the Mac you have no idea. You forget everything you know about computers to think and turns it on. Done! At the Macs that I know have, unfortunately, does not work. Is but a few years ago. Since there were floppy disks, and their handling alone was an adventure - because the stupid Mac had no eject button. I was fortunately in time someone showed how to do it. But there was synonymous fellow students, in their desperation the disk with a nail scissors from the drive have drilled ... : (

So a certain amount of basic intelligence, preferably about that of a cauliflower, synonymous, of course, requires a Mac;)

But yes you are describing exactly what I mean: Why needs a computer has an eject button? Because it is so familiar of Windows.

"Marco" wrote: I do not think that the OS now plays a role, if only the introduction into the handling is well done. Moreover, each OS is still relatively well-synonymous customize.

It requires only one who has no Mac.

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Antwort von vertov99:

think that the Windows Movie Maker for this purpose would be the first choice. as "draufgabe" to the operating system (for all versions?) yes, this is not the beginning of s.profis as far as I can remember, is the feature set very manageable and the building reasonably logical. pc some basic but always essential, otherwise it's synonymous user said no fun, when he worked for every little fehlklick before unsolvable problems is ...

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Antwort von Marco:

"This requires only one who has no Mac."

I sit straight s.meinem Mac (Book) and worked out and once again synonymous with Final Cut Pro / FCE. I can but in the fashion of enthusiasm is not Mac-connect. Neither is the Mac + software problems like this so often done, Windows still lags behind the user-friendliness. Personally, I think the barriers that often since tried backing will consist rather in the mind. I consider these systems as tools and the user level, a task which I can solve s.effektivsten. Each has its own claims and ideas of the perfect workflow. I come because my Windows systems usually if not always synonymous, but rather opposite.

Marco

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

"Marco" wrote: "This requires only one who has no Mac."

I sit straight s.meinem Mac (Book) and worked out and once again synonymous with Final Cut Pro / FCE. I can but in the fashion of enthusiasm is not Mac-connect. Neither is the Mac + software problems like this so often done, Windows still lags behind the user-friendliness. Personally, I think the barriers that often since tried backing will consist rather in the mind. I consider these systems as tools and the user level, a task which I can solve s.effektivsten.

Marco


I have my mother two years ago for cost reasons a Acer notebook recommended that just before I converted to Mac and I've regretted it. Very simple reason. I would never again make. I prefer more that 1000 EUR (was a 17 "- so much) as an old man to spoil the fun.

MB

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Antwort von Marco:

I doubt not s.deiner experience. But that does not necessarily have universal validity.

Marco

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Antwort von heimax:

Why recommends None of the Power Director CyberLink. This one is easy and intuitive to edit.
A trial is available: http://de.cyberlink.com/multi/download/trials_4_de_DE.html
Enjoy the test.
Gruss mags
PS The Mac my wife always says to my mpg: "this is not a movie file".

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Antwort von vertov99:

"heimax" wrote: Why recommends None of the Power Director CyberLink. This one is easy and intuitive to edit.


good suggestion! I had to completely forget. is synonymous as a super simple "express" version part of the "CyberLink DVD Suite," which are not likely to be too expensive. 6 pull-down menus, no 12 buttons on the screen - which is easier to get hard.

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Antwort von RickyMartini:

One might say that Mac users rarely s.System "rumpfuschen" than in the window-and-penguin colleagues the case. A Mac is synonymous screwed on and rarely exchanged components.
Changes can be of service but more to do than that you yourself would like to address.

Most Windows PC users are not synonymous, however, have more idea of their computing bondage, as many Mac users. ;)
As the undisputed Cracks are sure Linux / Unix users, since there s.System still propagated with much handwork done.

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Antwort von jogol:

My parents are with me of the targeted Mac rear and the front is not clearly come to PC and then converted with which it now clearly not synonymous, but at least one of the neighbors have to know and reasonably s.and then aushilft.Meinem father I had a Windows notebook concern with which it is not clear and if I come now with his Mac ankäme would be synonymous not klappen.Einfach no access to the Dingern.Ach yes, are all the smart older Menschen.Jetzt Please not again this unspeakable Scheiss Mac against PC.

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Antwort von Conducator:

"Marc ball home" wrote:

So a certain amount of basic intelligence, preferably about that of a cauliflower, synonymous, of course, requires a Mac;)



Because your Mac Feteschisten yes all "enlightened" wurdet, it may be synonymous yes no problem, your white boxes to subdue mentally ;-)

... nicely on the ground. It is synonymous happy and satisfied with life and Vista PC.

PS. Your Guru has übrigends hormone disruption, as he says * lol *
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Steve-Jobs-Mir-geht-es-gut--/meldung/115742

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"Marco" wrote: "This requires only one who has no Mac."

I sit straight s.meinem Mac (Book) and worked out and once again synonymous with Final Cut Pro / FCE. I can but in the fashion of enthusiasm is not Mac-connect. Neither is the Mac + software problems like this so often done, Windows still lags behind the user-friendliness. Personally, I think the barriers that often since tried backing will consist rather in the mind. I consider these systems as tools and the user level, a task which I can solve s.effektivsten. Each has its own claims and ideas of the perfect workflow. I come because my Windows systems usually if not always synonymous, but rather opposite.

Marco


These words is nothing to add. It can store and then as the thread to post here again if the missionaries are active and ideologues.

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However, relating back to: I think the proposals on the Casablanca editing system and the movie makers are very good!

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Antwort von RickyMartini:

Summarize the previous times we stand together:

- Computers are very difficult to operate
- Technical things (VCR, DVD player, digicam, etc.) represent for many people in general a problem

Thus, it is for the developers, most user-friendly products to design, in cooperation with the customers.

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Antwort von Jörg:

Quote: So a certain amount of basic intelligence, preferably about that of a cauliflower, synonymous, of course, requires a Mac;)

... So when the topic of mac vs. pc slow here, I think that rather a diametrically state of mind is very helpful .... a cauliflower is probably overqualified ...

I have quite a lot of experience with older contemporaries and computers, specifically DV editing, Debonnaires mother has many siblings.
There's only one safe solution: the of thos described,
possible group-dynamic process of professional support in the form of course. If there are mixed groups, ideally with at least one of the curious (which is surely to be?) S.Bord female education is quite large chance that the group mutually aufschwingt very good performance. Here are a simple beginner programs rather s.Platz fails, the pack must forage for their own excursions haben.Morgens at breakfast coffee is made
32 Mail, tell me, because I have the following .... tonight, are not uncommon.

The second case is that of the lone individual coaches. The oneman -
solution has much less chance of a non-enthusiastic users of the jumps to help. Since there are very fast frustrations.
I doubt that a reduced functional scope for a major advancement is. The logical operation, without listing all 142 possible rippleandedits in the context helps a lot because next. This is a very good Manual/F1, extensive online help or on wikias and tutorials are for the lone significant importance.

@ beiti
in the case of your chances are not great imho. It is of your skills and your Animatonsfähigkeit depend on whether the program is something wird.Das rather not decisive.
I have Premiere 2.0 as highly suitable for this group out.

The praise of Obstrechnerstreichelnden Bridade on their tool can be continued after only take the waste from the forum again with ....
I wait for the day when my chin reverently on the way down to stop in my throat with a force last hingehauchtes "human kind, dieserallesandereindenschattenstellendeclip was created with his mac 'flees.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Conducator" wrote: ... Your Guru has übrigends endocrine disorders, as he says * lol *...
Even if I had a lot of humor, it gives me no idea what s.der illness of another human being is so funny. Not to mention that there is absolutely nothing with the topic of this thread has to do. But factual "PC or Mac" discussions in this forum do not seem to lead - a pity.

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Antwort von Bespi:

"Marco" wrote: "This requires only one who has no Mac."

I sit straight s.meinem Mac (Book) and worked out and once again synonymous with Final Cut Pro / FCE. I can but in the fashion of enthusiasm is not Mac-connect. Neither is the Mac + software problems like this so often done, Windows still lags behind the user-friendliness. Personally, I think the barriers that often since tried backing will consist rather in the mind. I consider these systems as tools and the user level, a task which I can solve s.effektivsten. Each has its own claims and ideas of the perfect workflow. I come because my Windows systems usually if not always synonymous, but rather opposite.

Marco


nice that there are still decent poster. also just sit in front of my macbook, which I s.der fh augezwungen was synonymous and am no fan of it.

mac is a little younger deducted appears again the next ball called marc at home.

I am ashamed but synonymous even a little bit that I did not ask s.der here beteiilige, but is once again on the mac issue.

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Antwort von RickyMartini:

I personally would prefer if the user the operating system could use his discretion - regardless of the hardware. Then would certainly much relativise.

Mac OS, you can sadly only a computer with use of Apple, but it is some version of Windows on some Macs synonymous use.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"RickyMartini" wrote: ... I personally would prefer if the user the operating system could use his discretion - regardless of the hardware. Then would certainly much relativise ...
Apparently not, because that is so long on every Mac OS X, Windows and Linux are available.

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Antwort von marsteini:

"vertov99" wrote: think that the Windows Movie Maker for this purpose would be the first choice. as "draufgabe" to the operating system (for all versions?) yes, this is not the beginning of s.profis as far as I can remember, is the feature set very manageable and the building reasonably logical. pc some basic but always essential, otherwise it's synonymous user said no fun, when he worked for every little fehlklick before unsolvable problems is ...

Well, that is the Movie Maker would be really the last thing I would recommend. The MM uses partial knowledge of Windows, since it simply zusammengwürfelte some XP features are - on Vista I've even tried the MM - for fun - because it gave me the same unknown error NEN rausgehaun as hats me enough.

Would prefer something like Corel Ulead Video Studio and a friend, they are relatively easy and clear, at least at that version 9, with which I completely without knowledge of cutting began ...
Can him vllt show several demos and it should take to him s.einfachsten appears - but it should not confuse this synonymous ...

iMovie is really easy, but to purchase a Mac if he wants? My experiences have been gernerell that in Windows if I wanted to make productive what, I always s.Ende in a software update, or else I landed what I do not wolter eigtl and the work remained leiegen ... since this is my Mac no longer so, because I can more concentrate on the essential.

As the main computer I NEN mac, done all the multimedia tasks such as cutting, DVDs, etc. But to mix Articles / screenwriting, I will usually take ne Windows box (up to XP;)) - so I'm not only Mac-Fan , but that you find in these areas goes better.

That reminds me to make one software: Get ready for Adobe's Premiere Elements viewed? Beautifully arranged and not very difficult to use - if it gets a bit more pictures wants, he can get to yes PhotoshopEL.

Gruß,
marsteini

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Antwort von marsteini:

"RickyMartini" wrote: Mac OS, you can sadly only a computer with use of Apple, but it is some version of Windows on some Macs synonymous use.

Wiso? Using OS X can be synonymous to a normal PC, like Windows on the Mac - you just need to know how;)

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Antwort von RickyMartini:

"Bernd E." wrote: "RickyMartini" wrote: ... I personally would prefer if the user the operating system could use his discretion - regardless of the hardware. Then would certainly much relativise ...
Apparently not, because that is so long on every Mac OS X, Windows and Linux are available.

With the difference that it is just a special calculator that does not replace any of the hardware allows.

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Antwort von RickyMartini:

"marsteini" wrote: "RickyMartini" wrote: Mac OS, you can sadly only a computer with use of Apple, but it is some version of Windows on some Macs synonymous use.

Wiso? Using OS X can be synonymous to a normal PC, like Windows on the Mac - you just need to know how;)

The inoffizille Mac-PC is of course a special piece! ;)

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Antwort von Fenek:

Quote: Using OS X can be synonymous to a normal PC
And why should you do?
I think the world speaks XP
Vista is not for the experienced user, but for almost genial Oldie ..
None of the oldies has problems with the Vista OS ala ..
And modern V-editing software runs surprisingly well with Vista!
And both are affordable, unlike the Mac .....

We want to be a Simple and Inexpensive solution is not it?

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Antwort von RickyMartini:

As I have noticed that my Vista Business (Main PC: Q6600 @ 3GHz, 4GB RAM, 8800GTS (G92), X-Fi Music, etc.) since 02.11.1006 installed.
At the time, in between, I board, CPU, sound card, RAM and swap some drives without the need for Vista adoption.

Overall, Vista I have a fairly good stability certify with the performance of XP is still in some parts (eg the generation of thumbnails) is much better.

Windows 7 is synonymous in the starting blocks.

Oh yes, as an experienced user, I have still not strange reluctance to Vista! ;)

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Antwort von marsteini:

"Fenek" wrote: Quote: Using OS X can be synonymous to a normal PC
And why should you do?
I think the world speaks XP
Vista is not for the experienced user, but for almost genial Oldie ..
And both are affordable, unlike the Mac .....

We want to be a Simple and Inexpensive solution is not it?


OK, Vista is well suited for inexperienced, not for professionals. That, I see exactly the same. In return, Mac OS X is both suited for - easy for beginners but I profoundly for professionals (say just as terminal applications, etc. as is well after the windows).
The world speaks really XP. Or Mac - or why Apple always writes better sales of Macs lately? But that Macs are more expensive than PCs definitely not true if you want to compare the features, they are worth their price. Apart from running under OS X (Intel) all applications trouble-free (just like in Windows 32bit) in 64bit ...
Zuegegeben whom too little is iMovie, FCE can only be effective and it costs 200 ¬ still unfortunately ...

But anyway, without position to buy, you realize that you Fenek, apparently never with a more or less current Mac have worked, otherwise you would never ask such as "Why should I (OS X) do?" Yahoo!

@ Ricky:
Ok, no reservations, only the biggest drawbacks are the resources that Vista fürsich claimed (with single core and 0.5 GB of RAM you need because garnicht start) and the Panel gworden is much more complex than in XP

BUT NOW BACK2TOPIC:
I recommend:
Ulead Video Studio ** (9 - but not under Vista, since does not work anymore)
*** Adobe Premiere Elements
* Magix (When a little is to be more)

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

"marsteini" wrote:
Wiso? Using OS X can be synonymous to a normal PC, like Windows on the Mac - you just need to know how;)


One can certainly synonymous of the software from a Maserati Automatic ignition in the engine control unit of a Golf GTI copy, this one must know how. If you have a spark of intellect has asked you times before but "why?".

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Short tutorial: Apple builds computers. This consists of hardware and software, both from a single source, so it works on Anhiebt. If one buys a Mac, so this is 30 minutes after unpacking and fully operational even know how the phone does and how to access the calendar from the phone syncs with the computer, without you it would ever mitgeilteilt. It just works.

However, Microsoft makes software that supposedly works with all the hardware, the PC-compatible. Often it is even true, only Microsoft knows nothing of the incompatibilities of the hardware manufacturers themselves. Raises will be with the sum of the software vendor.

This then goes like this:

- You buy a PC or Etcher of dolls or something
- When you first start with zugespammt messages, because every opposition in the PC has its own drivers which to speak and the name of its manufacturer as colorful, big and ugly on the screen writes.
- Each driver has not only its button in the Start bar but synonymous to its own folder in the Start menu to the importance of demonstrating and not discriminated against the right programs to be
- As is the silly, the first spent hours trying to get rid of all this nonsense
- When Entrümpeln was then, unfortunately, a component affected, which is now only in an older version is present, but is important for all Programs on the framework 2.0 access all Programs s.Framework Release 2.0a or Canditate 2:01 show a kind digital incontinence in Subprozeduraufruf & H3626FF00AAF: 3546
- Incredibly helpful is the Microsoft Diagnostics software, the first 30 minutes, stupid questions and then determines that the problem could not be resolved.
- Next, notify the AutoUpdate feature. The new PC must be urgently updated, because it is not already up to date, there is also a security issue that must be resolved urgently because otherwise malicious users, the quasi-even in the phone line wait, immediately after leaving the area in the Computer will penetrate.
- After about a day, the PC is ready for operation, now everything is installed s.Raubkopien what you lately so collected. At the same time, all viruses that can also be accumulated, with installed.
- The virus scanner will now also be installed and occupied about 50% of the free memory and system resources
- After three days you find that the computer memory or something is missing. You buy 4 GB, which installed two waste because not enough seats are available and builds him a
- After a week we find that pirated copy number 20 is not working properly and if you ever crasht on the left ass cheek and sits right click
- In various forums you can find out that it is a new firmware with the BIOS to attempt to
- After installing the firmware, no more sound from the speakers, because the driver resistance of 1324 not with the firmware update is compatible, but what the user does not know
- The Microsoft help now advises to contact the dealer
- The retailer says the software is s.der
- The software vendor can not be contacted because it was a pirated copy.
- In various Internet forums you will find out that it must lie s.der hardware, probably s.der graphics card, because on demand, whether you s.System something has changed, this will naturally take resolute with no answers. Nothing.
- After about a half we see that approximately 70% of the functions of the PCs are available in theory, be used 10%, 30% should work, but they do not understand why, you do not know anymore. Actually you need them so synonymous garnicht.
- The sound f

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Antwort von Jörg:

tja Ballhaus,
nice that you've written us how smart you have your Windows set up, you now will probably all be clear on why you're converted to mac ...
My goodness, but was glad that for all eventualities in this society help;
of small purchases of the "7 cm bigger shoes" of his disabled stair lift, the blind stroking his dog, and people who are so stupid with windows reflect how you describe it, well, NEN buy the mac ... I'm s. and s.auf two platforms on which some macphorie is behandelnswert ....

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Antwort von RickyMartini:

In Apple Talk forum, I read everything but the pure bliss. This looks to me about some problems are not different than in the windows world.

Defects and incompatibilities are everywhere in the world of computers exist.
If you want his DVD Burners with newer media use is a firmware update nunmal inevitable. MS has not invented.
Also iPhones / iPods & Co need new firmware.

Calculator I always build myself together, but it is not synonymous rarely has problems (hardware failures, etc.)! ;)

It not only topple PCs, but synonymous mobile phones, portable music players, DVD players, digicams and camcorders (because synonymous embedded systems have their shortcomings).

Perhaps I will take a synonymous apple growth in addition - what speaks against it? :)

As I note there are no problems for apples with the Registry. This is me on Windows have long been a thorn in the eye and not wegzukriegen.

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Antwort von PowerMac:

"Joerg" wrote: (...) The macphorie some behandelnswert is ....

Yes, really? Dr. Jörg diagnosed!

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Antwort von strike300xxx:

And another Mac / PC war, the total OFF TOPIC runs.
I can not read more ...

To ne answer to the actual subject to:
- For MAC clearly iMovie & iDVD
- For PC Movie Maker, or any stuff so'n

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Quote: What is the safest foolproof editing program?

One was all formats can files and scenes Captured and auto detect / sotiert.
The cut alone and directly invests in BD, DVD, Svcd, Xvid and youtube renders / exports - and oh yes it is, of course, free and runs on MAC / PC / Linux and coffee machines.

...

B. DeKid

VirtualDub, Premiere Elements, Premiere Pro

or FinalCut

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Antwort von gunman:

Hello,

I have my thoughts to the original topic here early immortalises. If I now but all the good advice (and synonymous Mac-PC debate) here read, I can only advise Beiti his older friend just no words to tell them, because otherwise, the good man before loud anticipation of its future as a "video cutter "suffer a heart attack.

Gunman

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Antwort von heimax:

As Beginners and read the writing already, I am absolutely sure what I did not need. Namely certainly no Mac.
I think it is super simple as the theme again in a war Mac - PC degenerates. If the gentlemen MacBenutzer not always perform as missionaries, would probably everything written here is much more understandable.
Only one piece of advice, the starter of the discussion is still not received. 2 pages read, only to discover that the "experts" are synonymous does not agree what is good and easy. Whether this is beneficial?
In any case I would say: In this forum, there is no such sensible advice so I really advice.
Gruss mags

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Antwort von wolfgang:

So those Mac-PC debate is once again totally futile - but everyone should use what he wants to stop.

On topic: So was not the Manufacturer Casablanka not just in economic difficulties wicked? I would be careful.

Otherwise the question is probably for simple editing programs do not soo easy - if one of the subject has no idea, is probably even s.Anfang nix easy. Some programs - such as Ulead Video Studio or Pinnacle Studio synonymous - have a slightly easier user interface, which may help, but what we know so you should make anyway. To create a learning process, the beginner - no preference whether young or old - there is not anyway around.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"heimax" wrote: ... Read through 2 pages, only to discover that the "experts" are synonymous does not agree what is good and easy. Whether this is beneficial? ...
That would duchaus worthwhile if you are willing and is able to distinguish who from personal experience about strengths and weaknesses of individual systems and who can say to the long rumination partly obsolete claims that he told someone that someone knows of times a computer has seen. Professionals know that the "safest foolproof editing program" can give just as the "bedienungsfreundlichste car", because everyone feels different users. Contributions of the "missionaries" of both denominations to read better anyway just because of their entertainment value.

"heimax" wrote: ... In any case I would say: In this forum, there is no sound advice ..
That seems to me not a problem of the Forum, but the question s.sich. Not every issue is black and white with "Yes" or "No" answer, and the more knowledge someone has of a matter, the more aspects fall on him. Only laymen know immediately which it considers to alleinseligmachende answer, if synonymous to fear is that their knowledge of the intelligence sheet with the four letters in titles. And whether you think it really help?

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

Your garnicht believe how glad I am that not everyone has a Mac. The Mac is not fit to any. Also, a Mac / Windows debate is indeed useless, but only if you as a panelist, only one of the systems use, but thinks both say them. The concerns in this thread at least half, and they should look to ask what they are the subject Mac / Windows at all meaningful installations before they can begin to tap.

I know Windows of the first second, yes I have even the beginning of the 90 Books and articles on programming in DOS and Windows, and know even without the Windows registry. My first PC was a 8088 - the first PC ever! I hardly believe that the ultimate rogue in this thread because you can really say. Nor is there in my bold operation server for HTTP, FTP and SMB, which runs with Windows 2003, and will only every 3 months rebooted, because it is extremely clean. The problem is not Windows s.sich, but the one who sits in front of the screen, and the fact that Microsoft is trying more and more themselves. Windows 1.0 was the surface of, for example, almost like a Mac, but was a flop. In Windows 3.0, it was colorful, loud and successful bunt s.3.11 and network with new problems, then started s.Windows 95 Plug and Pray - and of s.ging because it is only the hill and even more colorful, it could only go downhill, because one has tried it all right to do whatever but just 90% can be achieved. The remaining 10% are just the Macianer and others who simply do not have this nonsense Bock join. Previously, I could not understand it today, I appreciate that there is still something other than Microsoft is.

What exactly synonymous certainly adds is the fact that prior to Windows computers more flower cabbages than sit in front of a Mac, but now is not equal to the reverse applied, no, not all Windows users are stupid. But by the pricing in this segment, mainly cheap, it captures the lower layers synonymous with low IQ, no more than knowing how to Youporn and start getting s.den eBay. So someone would never had the idea to have a Mac only upon synonymous.

This is with a reason why I feel more comfortable than Macianer, because I am relatively sure that like-minded people have a certain level. This security is not for PC users - synonymous here, please do not apply to the opposite conclusion. For me, this is admittedly so synonymous then a piece of lifestyle, which I myself have chosen, and with which I damn well feel quite incidentally because it is more efficient. Furthermore, I find Vista just incredible bad taste, something horrible bunt overloaded I can with the first morning cup of coffee just not watch.

But ultimately, of course, everyone must know what suits him. The problem is, if you look at changes before and closes with blinkers rumläuft, not for the other stupid, but stupid for itself

MB

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Antwort von Conducator:

"Marc ball home" wrote: Your garnicht believe how glad I am that not everyone has a Mac. The Mac is not fit to any.
....
MB

yes, say 'I do: You're just an "enlightened"! Echt Klasse, was so obviously a brainwashing mind ;-)

@ Admin
The issue here can in good conscience conclude, because the usual Mac vs. senseless. PC strudel and got into it for the theme of the asker does not bode well rauskommt. Yes, I was once synonymous Offtopic times. Shame on my head ;-)

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Antwort von domain:

A particular aspect of non-Mac users were not even mentioned, namely the successful experience from a range of hundreds of hardware and software vendors a usable system zusammengestoppelt to have and to the comparatively low prices. This can be a real tragedy but ultimately it fills forums and provides for voltage and entertainment.
Even so many of them live journals. As journalist Bill Gates in Germany many times about the problems with its software surveyed, he said: they just ask me that? If it were not the case, then yes they would all be unemployed.
See, however, that this often months-long gathering and testing is not exactly a sparkling aspect is for professionals. They want more, that their PC like a Miele washing machine works on the first try.

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Antwort von marsteini:

Mir is still a (good?) Haggard Tip:
Go look at the page of the magazine "video", because it is free (! Yes, and the legal, I myself do not understand: D) Articles runterladen - such as times after his article about cutting programs, or let the old men read .

Vllt helps you the next?

PS:
One more for Mac and why I am among other transition: You'll quickly of professionals "accept" if you mention that you FC with P / E work - vllt sounds strange, but true (unfortunately?). If you look at the video diary of the wave seems, we see that the Mac Pro in the field very often and like to use (cutting and music production). Everything else I'd rather do with the PC - any platform (including linux) has its strengths and they are working in these areas just like that.
Mac for multimedia production, computer text, and play games (ie synonymous tuning screws and crafts:)) and Linux aufm server.

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

"Conducator" wrote:

yes, say 'I do: You're just an "enlightened"! Echt Klasse, was so obviously a brainwashing mind ;-)



If you can not even create my post until the end to read, then try at least sinnentleerte such comments to be synonymous if you fall hard.

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Antwort von Flashlight:

I would recommend iMovie 09. Quite fresh in the coming iLife09 package. And of course, only on the Mac, anyway of the user-friendly computer is ... ;-)

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Antwort von domain:

I would suggest nothing, except that where adequate motivation and suffering of the elderly Lord himself to improve his Workfloes efforts.
I know the situation only too well. We want such an "improvement willing" to teach and what he writes is synonymous everything on pieces of paper on. Success practically zero and then one is seen as virtually uninterrupted show good consultant inquiries via phone, etc. suspended and all tips on this way, he is again synonymous with zero success.
If one's own life does not affect sustained wishes, then you have the fingers of the "Mother Theresa Syndrome" and can basta, unless it is one's own wife or the father, etc., where you are in some way emotional commitment.

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Antwort von darg:

Synonymous, I think that a recommendation is totally wrong s.Platze. The good man has no idea of, unfortunately, with what he's trying. He mixes digital and analog, brings digital content via a DigiLog step into his videos and everything will always be in realtime. Wow, I would only be a few steps back and make me with him on basic rules and stop a workflow entertained. Basically, he is not stupid, because he gets (for him!) Incompatible with media on a disc together (Egineering reverse), but has no basic knowledge. If he has, he can certainly synonymous from several trial versions to choose a software that will fit him. It is currently only hold so that the head is not white, the tail wagged :-)

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Antwort von beiti:

I will tell him now just a simple editing program on his laptop install (and when my old Pinnacle Studio 8 is) and once the complete workflow through with him. Then he looks at all times, how it works and what happens.
Whether he will actually take the time to become familiar with the technology to incorporate, he will decide for himself. I rather think not, but you never know.
(The man is academics, over 80 and still working - that is certainly not the average Grandpa, you all in capital letters must be written down. He has probably already super-8-times and filmed it with different video systems. Only the digital video editing is more or less unrecognized s.ihm passed - not least due to lack of time.)

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Antwort von domain:

Interesting is synonymous nor his yes, everything was so still after him will endure.
I personally have a burn of Super 8mm incredibly extensive material in an Easter experiences, recorded by the very industrious faded Documenter itself (today would be punishable).
The only exception were highly personal images of his children and grandchildren, etc.
All the others, with big ambitions general filmed documentaries of his travels were for the cat and went in smoke.
But in our own documentation, it will not take place, I am sure ..........

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Antwort von RickyMartini:

For the PC, I found his "Let's Edit 1 / 2" of Canopus particularly easy to use. The program is practically free of weights and no cluttered as some of the latest cutting applications.

For HD editing is "Let's Edit" but unfortunately not to use so "Edius NEO" quasi successor has begun.

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Antwort von unodostres:

"Fenek" wrote:
I think the world speaks XP
Vista is not for the experienced user, but for almost genial Oldie ..
None of the oldies has problems with the Vista OS ala ..
And modern V-editing software runs surprisingly well with Vista!
And both are affordable, unlike the Mac .....

We want to be a Simple and Inexpensive solution is not it?


Why Vista is not for "experienced users"?
Quite the contrary. Vista runs perfectly and is lengths ahead of XP.
Since I have been over 15 years, very intensively dealing with computers (applications and development), I see myself as one of the experienced user and I will never again back to XP.

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Antwort von Axel:

"domain" wrote: I personally have a burn of Super 8mm incredibly extensive material in an Easter experiences, recorded by the very industrious faded Documenter itself (today would be punishable).
The only exception were highly personal images of his children and grandchildren, etc.
All the others, with big ambitions general filmed documentaries of his travels were for the cat and went in smoke.
But in our own documentation, it will not take place, I am sure ..........


The illusion that leave a lasting impression. Something to create the moment, somehow preserved, even from the future visible sheen point is clear. Even tombstones made of granite, marble or rock will remain only as long as there is a interest. After more or less 25 years, the Office of Public Need establishments, cemeteries and parks for the graves Umbuddeln free.

Filmmaking does not necessarily mean a public admiration for the film actually appropriate to do. It is in the broadest sense daydreams in pictures, in the best sense of thinking in images. The journey is the destination. Zen. The Tibetan monks sprinkle days s.einem magnificent mandala of colored sand, and destroy the "graphic", when it is finished. That is the definition of happiness.
(Not OT)

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Antwort von domain:

Zen. That's it. The journey is the destination.
Synonymous Now I finally know why my own videos after the final rendering for years schubladiere.
The Project is characterized by the frequent need reputation with virtually any subsequent alteration for a long time into the brain and engraved in the Random Access.

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

There is only one solution: a blockbuster shoot himself and let burn!

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