Frage von saob:
Hi,
I would like to see soon a new camera purchase, but am still undecided
which model it should be, I hope you can help me:)
I am currently studying media studies and therefore jeztz may already be a little more professional. I do mostly
animal documentaries and
movies, what ideas do you have for this camera would s.meisten?
I have the
XL2 in the eye, as it is objectively synonymous here can change. However, this camera is no longer synonymous, the newest and so I was advised not auchschon
SD camera to buy, but an
HDV. In addition to documentaries (which I tend to turn me) I make movies back out and do family gatherings or small image films. Here you can find customers nat. always impressed with HDV, but the difference is the appropriate money worth? But this only incidentally, is mainly for the Camera (animal) Docus suitable.
for the
details: Cost: up to 3000 (synonymous used)
Zoom: possible high (pets are unfortunately not always tame)
Format: this is the wonder,
Lichtempfindlichk.: As high as possible
Image stabilizer: optical
alternate objective: yes
In test report I have read that the XL1 problems with the autofocus makes many then claimed that the successor models of the nichmehr and make others thought that the problem persists. What do you this? Is it simply that even the XL2 has retired and I have to, let's say in 5 years is no longer synonymous get sold, or heard them for the limited budget, still among the best in their area?
Would be glad if you could give me tips / synonymous regarding best sellers
Thank you!
Antwort von tillbaer:
Hi,
So my mind is working just like s.einm problem :-)
If XL2 then used for about 2000, - ¬. Would you buy it new and in five years, sell, synonymous not get more money than if the one now used as a camera would be purchased.
That would be me too high a value loss. What the Lenses are concerned, there is almost no choice, except with his photo and EF lenses. But photo lenses are not times for the chip size for the aspect ratio of a DV Camera expected. Therefore, I would anyway with a good tele-making. And so is the advantage of Exchangable optics already there.
I have now decided against the XL2. I fluctuate between FX1000 and XH-A1. At the moment I'm using small Canon HV30, but what I need more light.
The XH-A1 would be ideal, I believe you, because you really can adjust everything. For Your Docus you have a fast autofocus and XLR connections for features (eg image films).
The resale value can be None to predict anyway, I want pictures and the GOOD TODAY.
Greetings - Til.
Antwort von KrischanDO:
... But photo lenses are not times for the chip size for the aspect ratio of a DV Camera expected. ... I do not understand fully.
A Lens seek a DX or FX chip with 10 Mpx upwards of crisp stills can operate, synonymous to a 1 / 3 inch chip with DV - or HD-resolution work. The aspect ratio is expected to be completely no preference, the image circle is always around.
Or have I missed something?
Regards
Christian
Antwort von Johannes:
What looks with JVC's GY HD 100 at Fideo-Cam is being offered a second hand.
http://www.fideocam.de/gebrauchte-kameras/camcorder.html
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Gude
So in my eyes, lying with a XL2 you properly.
They bought another and you have enough zoom s.Start.
Possibly another mA 100 XLR shoulder restraint and should be good.
I would be synonymous to a second-hand advice.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von KrischanDO:
...
Possibly another mA 100 XLR shoulder restraint and should be good.
MfG
B. DeKid Such a shoulder brace, as well as virgin, I would like to sell.
I have a few months ago bought new, but then borrowed the XL-1 is returned and the Sonygekauft.
Neupreis: 199 - ¬, happy bidding by email, to find on www.strupp.de
Sincerely,
Christian
Antwort von tillbaer:
@ KrischanDo:
I have a WW-old video (from the 4:3 time). The Camera had s.meiner 4:3 slight blurring in the corners.
When I test it on a HV30've screwed, I had not only blurred edges, but a vague semicircle left and right.
Now it is in this specific case, of course, as with the Canon EF-made. If the lens now uses so that the top and bottom of something is missing (in spirit as in letterbox), then should not be a problem. If, however, because as you rightly say is a circular course, right and left by the 16:9 format more of Lens is exploited, then a peripheral blur so it felt like when I was.
In Vimeo I have already several examples of such a problem - but not with the EF.
As a tele-substitution, it is certainly not a bad way, so to use. I think only the investment in XL2, EF and EF-Lenses something too big for something without concrete examples to decide. As would be me an HDV Camera good teleconverter with prefers. But anyone who already has EF Lenses - why not.
I hope you could follow my novel. I did not know how I find it easier to describe.
Greetings - Til.
Antwort von KrischanDO:
Hi,
I would be really surprised if it is when using a Canon Full-lens s.einer Video Camera would be vignetting. Still image Small is 24x36 mm, which is expected because 1 / 3 inches is a lot smaller.
A professional telephoto lens, not as an 18-200mm 3,5-4,5 tube to be a quality teleconverter thoroughly in the shadows are.
Regards
Christian
Antwort von saob:
mhhh difficult difficult
Many many thanks for the tips!
but the decision was not just me now Leicher made, there are just too many cameras:)
johannes @
s.die garnicht I had thought, since I always assumed that the price still is far more than 4000.
Viewfinder seems to be the pretty bad, but otherwise I have not found much more negative.
I will be closer aufjedenfall times with the company,
(Must, however, still had 2 days, and tomorrow as I write exams tuesday;)
Antwort von tillbaer:
@ KrischanDo:
I hope so synonymous that it is. We can look at both times, whether one of us a meaningful example in youtube or Vimeo and will link it here. Perhaps synonymous times of an eye specialist what to write here, or someone who is such a combination has ever tasted.
I would be even a combination s.so interested if I knew certainly that it is really good. But at the moment, I find it for me (and the thread plate) somehow quite expensive, if not certainly know.
The question is synonymous halt, whether with the goal of "SD DVD" is not really an a la Camera HDV Canon XH-A1 with 20x zoom is enough for you then yes something synonymous game for subsequent zooming in NLE would. I think that all of the final price and the value of preservation would be cheaper.
Are there no animal filmmakers who experience this ever made (both HDV XL2 as synonymous)?
Greetings - Til.
Antwort von KrischanDO:
Hi Til,
I was synonymous with animal movies s.Hut nix, but I grab for years that an XL-1 and successor, with the long gray bags of used Canon since. Both components can be quite well such as rent at Calumet
Regards
Christian
Antwort von tillbaer:
Actually you're right. That would be a good way to test it all, yet equally s.besten ne Z5 or FX1000 for Comparison. The cost is a little money once, but then you know what you have / will have.
Greetings - Til.
Antwort von charletto:
Hi,
So, I had the XL 1 and XL S 2 for a similar area and the problem with the autofocus, I can confirm. If you ne JVC GY HD 100 could have, but I would rather recommend to 110er, which is in your budget - but new (Mediatec in Cologne) and offers in addition to the interchangeable lens professional enough features to create first-class movies in HDV and synonymous in the SD format. And picture quality comes s.die da ne Canon XL 2 ran anyway.
LG
Charly
Antwort von WoWu:
@ KrischanDO
Still image Small is 24x36 mm, which is expected because 1 / 3 inches is a lot smaller. A professional telephoto lens, not as an 18-200mm 3,5-4,5 tube to be a quality teleconverter thoroughly in the shadows are. Who This experience has not yet been made, it should be as soon as possible.
Look at the times of the MTF of photo lenses and HD lenses.
To an identical resolution a 80 lp / mm film (not Still Image) lens to achieve when you have 2 / 3 'a 200 lp / mm photo optics use.
I hab'das for 24x36 mm to 1 / 3 "not yet calculated ... but I think it has to be synonymous not because 200 lp / mm unbezahlpar already are.
Also ... do you want your exposure to "Zebra" set?
Also, the zoom mechanism is made of static setup.
All in all, the extension factor of photo lenses even the smallest problem, even though he makes the best surprises, if you desperately tries to set a halfway reasonable picture and to make the experience, as the "life in constant telephoto" looks and man of Weitwinkligkeit synonymous can only dream of.
And because the Still Image Lenses on another projection surface and a different Pixel Pitch optimert, is the consequence of moiré ....
Oh, and the curvature of the last lens Lens is synonymous unlike a HD Lens.
You get so between the two (optical / mechanical) Back focus values the sharpness of the optics do not handle .. Score: compromise between the two focus points = Picture blurred
But mach mal .... this gives a new experience.
Antwort von KrischanDO:
@ Wolfgang,
the problem with the resolution (scatter circle) lenses of the photo is clear to me I just head over to SD Format: What is good 4200 x 2800 pixel stills VF is enough for 1 / 3 "SD synonymous. I'm probably on the long-standing Canon -- Advertising 'access to one of the largest Lens offers ... "purely fallen.
Re-learned!
Sincerely,
Christian
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Christian,
... already clear. It is synonymous for an alluring prospect.
JVC has always synonymous with the argument of changing lens advertised, knowing that there are hardly 1 / 3 "Lenses are.
And even today it is still "herumgeritten" although it hardly Lenses under 2 / 3 "there. (Some 1 / 2").
Even the old 2 / 3 "SD Lenses for HD are not really useful.
The theme Lenses found in the video field, unfortunately far too little attention.
This lens provides the essential quality.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
.......
The theme Lenses found in the video field, unfortunately far too little attention.
This lens provides the essential quality. ! 00% agree - I wish more synonymous Lenses, because with all due respect to the EF for the Popo
Even with L IS optics He does not s.die quality optics of the XL.
Although the viewers of the clips such as Surf no preference who wants only good Action / moves to see and the rest is in cutting halt drauf ;-)
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von WoWu:
Kid @
Since I am absolutely synonymous with Thee ... if the content requires it, everything is permitted. And if someone on an underground its HD Lens Camera strapped, because he is the desired result so erreichet ... prima.
This was only the attainable quality of HD images and the illusion, with other lenses (Still Image / SD, etc.) HD Lenses for the same or even better quality to replace them.
But the degree to which the place is, of course, because you have right of the application-dependent.
Antwort von KrischanDO:
This was only the attainable quality of HD images and the illusion, with other lenses (Still Image / SD, etc.) HD Lenses for the same or even better quality to replace them.
Nee, I did mean SD. That a calculated for Full Photo s.1 Lens / 3 "HD chip is not happy, is to me synonymous understandable.
Regards
Christian
Antwort von saob:
Gude
So in my eyes, lying with a XL2 you properly.
They bought another and you have enough zoom s.Start.
Possibly another mA 100 XLR shoulder restraint and should be good.
I would be synonymous to a second-hand advice.
MfG
B. DeKid Is it, I had thought nochgarnicht. thanks for the proposal. gibts synonymous to such converter for the Canon XH-A1. because to me if I understood correctly indicates, most of the XL2, I tend to advise against being in the direction of Canon XH-A1. Do me the times today, the display is a very small, with manual focus position is probably as serious.
The JVC GY HD 110's I really liked synonymous, since alternate optik. But if mans times objectively, it really makes no sense that the XH-A1 (can not help me, like somehow the net) is preferable, since it is much harder and also only a 16x telephoto with is (other objects, there seems to be synonymous rather little to give, at least, have found no 20s).
agrees with her because my Schlußvolgerung to?
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Gude
No one hand chen (between body and lens attached), there is not in the form.
There are but synonymous Tele / WW front lens which s.das Lens come.
Although I've just compatriots at Raynox but there is apparently not for the XH A1 is offered.
Maybe someone here can tell you that a product is recommended.
I can persl. Actually not a bad experience of the XL (1s) report regarding sharpness aka focusierung.
Depending on your location, you should see the XL2 times and borrow a couple of sample shots do - think you can you make your own Picture.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Johannes:
A tele-converter can be found on Ebay, he does need a 72mm thread and you should make sure it is for HD cameras.
A WW surely you can find on the Page of Raynox.
Antwort von saob:
super,
many thanks!
has anyone of you a tip where you s.besten an XH-A1 is buying? of equipment is used rather discouraged? Weis someone whether Zähllaufwerk an A1 synonymous (to me of no better name), where can be read as much tape has passed through?
Antwort von saob:
hab ichs now:)
I meant Kopftzeit
