Frage von otzelot:
Hello specialists!
after I of pinnacle studio 11.1.1, I was disappointed to find a program to MALFUNCTIONING my AVCHD movies to be cut.
which could take the moment in question?
I have a laptop Toshiba Qosmio G30-188 with 1gb ram, nvidia gforce go 7600, intel centrino duo 1.83GHz.
price should be 100, - ¬ sound wall does not break through, but if the program is really worth, I would a bissel synonymous spend more ....
1001 dank!
Antwort von wolfgang:
Perhaps 2 candidates:
- Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum (approx. 90 Euro), one finds some at Amazon
- Canopus Edius Neo (about 200 Euro)
Antwort von jansi:
Would not primarily
the question of the
calculator for AVCHD? ..? ;-)
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Laptop Toshiba Qosmio G30-188 with 1gb ram, nvidia gforce go 7600, intel centrino duo 1.83GHz. Hehehehe ... AVCHD ....., neee ..., how can one just so naive and PiS11Plus to rant ...
Leave it and work with DV ...
Antwort von otzelot:
what has this to do with naive? fine rendering of the time her pretty good, just that some crossings were erroneous. I've not bought AVCHD to DV in order to make ...... :-)
Antwort von WoWu:
At this moment I can only Dit recommend a workaround, if you have a Mac, get Final Cut Pro. It transcodiert on ProRess411 ... but at least it works.
Otherwise I am of the view that it still takes a half of years, until the NLE Manufacturer HW fall back on, because I do not think it wise to base software will run. But there is always here in the forum participants, who say it works .... So please ... Now her time with the NLE solutions.
Antwort von mgm:
you have quite synonymous to Pinnöcles sites they already know the AVCHD files of some Cams problems. Black picture frames and other errors are the cause.
Also, the AC3 DD5.1 sound editing is not 100% work involved.
Wolfgang has already written to you what works if it is AVCHD on the timeline, then there remain only Vegas
for all other only via intermediate gehts ..
Edius Canopus HQ on the
VDL s.2007 PLUS on the layout you.
VDL it warns you before and converts in batch process in Smartrenderingfähiges HD Mpeg2.
I know I know WoWu is crying again, but what can you FCpro at synonymous convert synonymous if the ProRess sure s.der Render Generation X is the better choice, like the CanopusHQ.
Antwort von WoWu:
... I write 'not at all. Yes I know that since the solutions are still very unsatisfactory and it is with some compromise must be friends first.
Antwort von otzelot:
it sounds not good. I was but apparently naive. I thought: Holst ne super cam, to the proggie (Studio 10, I had already, but not with AVCHD) and is well ....... bullshit.
what I have the AVCHD when ichs can not use? This has told me previously None :-(
I will now back in SD or Vegas get film?
NEN HD Television I have not (yet) .......
Antwort von Voltz:
I think you need a first calculator, which can handle everything!
Antwort von WoWu:
Hello Otzelot ...
.... so if you get-off in the past of Topics compatriots would have you both the problems of the next format, as synonymous with significant advantages can see. However, I do not think you have the wrong decision did, because I belong in the "stock" of those who benefit substantially higher estimate than a few months with a workaround to deal and if you do not belong to those whose budgets allow for it , every half year a new system zuzulegen, but rather to those in which a camcorder for a while believe, then you have certainly made the right decision. Therefore, look all the time "for" and "resist" to. If demand is still ... happy.
Antwort von otzelot:
Thank you. then I calmed down as far as times. I hadere but still, if I film in SD or retrieve Vegas ......
Antwort von WoWu:
.... I would capture all the paint in HD .... then if you only have a SD - version make of it .... is probably a question of your monitor, on which you look .... You say yes, you have no HD ... But the footage on HD mach. In half a year already sees the world very differently with regard to the cut programs. In relation to Vegas, I would be synonymous still very cautious, because although Sonyhat overcome and supports synonymous partner formats "but still is actually a sign that she still has its proprietary cook soup and still pretty much of a support of the standards as he of SMPTE and ISO provided, are away. Only Sony-off should not only say they are standard CONFORM but COMPLIANT. Conform means nothing ... So my advice is ... no Vegas. First see what the other manufacturer in the coming months so make.
Antwort von otzelot:
ok. Thank you. I will first wait and see. when cam was such a conversion program of AVCHD to mpeg2 it. hope that they will funzt .....
Antwort von Marco:
"because Sonyhat Although overcome and supports synonymous partner formats" but still is actually a sign that she still has its proprietary soup cook " I think you unterliegst because of miscalculation. Vegas was never a system with restrictions on proprietary formats, but it was quite the opposite has always been one of the systems with the greatest openness format. If there ever were any restrictions or size, then based (t) s in the rule to license agreements that are not so easily be overcome. You will still not synonymous many NLE editing systems, which are open format such as Vegas.
Especially what AVCHD is concerned, it is completely wrong, it is so presented as if only an "overcoming" rather need to find partners to support formats. It was more of a candy that Sony AVCHD format with full support in a premature version of Vegas for some time had. Where AVCHD support in Vegas in time was being considered, all others were synonymous AVCHD (Camera-) feed providers. At the same time, Vegas is synonymous for a number of other H.264 format, which not long ago cut in each system.
Hat maybe to do that not with Sonygleichzusetzen Vegas, because Vegas is still derived from the development of Sony Creative Software.
I do not want to over-ride about such things, but the presentation in the osPosting creates a false impression, which I believe a correction was needed.
Marco
Antwort von otzelot:
aha! does vegas buy?
Antwort von Marco:
I do not know if I was for this reason alone would take to Vegas. But apart from the support holds AVCH Vegas so synonymous nor the one or the other not quite obvious functionality ready ;-)
So - why you are not just the demo version and meet the decision in the whole and certainly synonymous with involvement of the stomach feeling. You have to be so synonymous with the ultimate handling of the program are clear.
Of s.gäbe because it still synonymous Movie Studio Platinum for the smaller purses.
Marco
Antwort von otzelot:
So with the vegas pro, I do not come easily. because I am not even belligerent about glare effect. would be priced more like SONY Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum Edition eh not much. because I did not know how to handle it is. I'm currently s.PS11 used, but if the bonus could serve a similar, that would be synonymous not a problem. as for all: you just need to know HOW
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Marco ...
.. the after-sounding but very marketing ....
Vegas was not even AVC-comp-to Panasonic and the compatibility to the standard once synonymous proof. For example, is nowhere defined, which profiles supported and certainly not what tools will be supported.
And relating to compatibility with Sony ... MPEG2 formats of their synonymous, they have always said that they were standard-conform. When the data signals but once a standard MPEG2 decoder offered, could never begin ... Same problem with IMX --- synonymous only standard-conform ..... So Sonyhat never shone compatibility with ... otherwise in really good products. And if you say, Vegas could think of everything ... where is DVCPro?
But actually you so synonymous confirm what I always say ... many companies do just synonymous from licensing reasons, not all formats and / or algorithms. So basically you just confirm that what I always say. And, as I said ... compatibility to the standard must be synonymous still be determined ...
Slightly less marketing for something more transparency would certainly synonymous users well tolerated.
Antwort von Marco:
"because I am not even belligerent about glare out." These are precisely the crossfades in Vegas as easy as it can be. Have only one clip on the other draw. The length of the overlap is equal to the fading time.
Marco
Antwort von otzelot:
aha. and as I bring the proceedings, that I say no Crossfade but a wipe or halt blinding effect on other wants?
1001 dank!
Antwort von Marco:
Wolfgang, this has absolutely nothing to do with marketing, but the values of a cutter experience, in terms of format, so rarely was able to work as untarnished since the use of Vegas. Please do not return to the deeper into the theory, since my post above reflects the practice again. And please do not return things in the mouth, which has said None (of because I would have said "but everything can Vegas"). And please do not Sonyin Vegas and a pot and throw it then make it into an absolute without considering how other nonlinear editing manufacturer in such things dranstellen. The Picture, the representation from such a result is simply wrong.
What concerns DVCPro - Install Windows as DVCPro VfW codec and you can work in Vegas. What are DVCProHD - Install Raylight and you can work in Vegas. Not everything is auto, but for almost everything, there are more or less direct ways. Today, for video editing format so synonymous relevant not only to DV, IMX, XDCAM HD, DVCPro and (HD) SDI is limited. So if Vegas synonymous DVCProHD not just at an internal solution ready and comfortable so there really is not just the greatest strength, it is a form of very many. Since I can with any editing system of one or even many rauspicken that either do not or rather poorly supported.
Furthermore Vegas AVC compatible to Panasonic when it comes to their AVCHD cameras and the importation and handling of such material is. No less than other programs.
Because I will not get rid of the suspicion that you are from any other obvious reasons we do not like to Sonyschießt. Whether the justification is, can and I do not fathom. Only Vegas is that for various reasons, certainly not the bone of contention.
Marco
Antwort von Marco:
"How do I ensure that I say no Crossfade but a wipe or halt blinding effect on other wants?" You open the menu on the screen "Transitions" (or "transitions" in the German version) and draw with the mouse the desired Wipe in the overlapping area.
Or you make on the overlap right click and choose to "Dissolve" (or "transition") from a desired wipe.
Marco
Antwort von otzelot:
good! Thank you!
I think I can express myself with the vegas platinum friends :-)
Antwort von otzelot:
supi! I did the movie platinum trial installed and habs grad probiert. but only with mpeg2 files gone. with the AVCHD files came only forbade character. Perhaps the overlap was synonymous not long enough .....
the tastes of more:-D
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Marcus
... Please do not take this personally, I appreciate your experience as a cutter and I am very glad that you are so beautiful and can work freely. I can understand synonymous and understand that you sosehr need to use Vegas but on a Page you say, Vargas can do everything, ... but then when it comes to the basic algorithms, such as DVCPro goes, you have a limit and say, well, the other programs but not synonymous. Probably you will find a few, but the most popular programs such algorithms can be quite self-evident. Vegas does not. Also do you not provide a description of the format (Profiles) Vegas really support ... and here is what ultimately. Schade.
And if you say, other format than DV, IMX, XDCAM HD, DVCPro and (HD) SDI's important (not just limited to), then I have long to consider what format VEGAS still supports the importance of higher a positive and unique feature represents.
Regarding your suspicion that I have anything against Sony Can I reassure you ... because it can not say. Sonybaut good products, (in a Sony world) but just because I have been over 25 years with Sonyim broadcast collaborate, I have learned that what they say and write only once to ask before I believe it. Most synonymous then surprises one. This goes not only to me, but synonymous with many of my colleagues in the television stations and the EBU. To that extent you're right, because more than at other firms dominated in Marketing and Sales Sonyder idea. As it is with one or the other technical details have been not so strictly speaking. But the peculiarity Sonyhat so that other companies do not have ... s.den interfaces fit strangely usually only Sony devices. The examples are enough. This all leads but does not mean that I have anything against Sonyhätte, as I said, you just need to just ask and they are all too often surprising.
And I would be extremely happy if synonymous surprised if in relation to VEGAS not correct.
Time will tell ... First, they have so once the files of Panasonic AVC compatible ... that gives me hope, because Panasonic in the past largely has kept s.die standards. Perhaps this is so synonymous with Vegas so.
Nevertheless ... which profiles and Tools supports the program because now?
Antwort von WoWu:
.... or forget ...
.... the subtleties and differences of Sonyand Sony Creative Software synonymous probably understand only the employees and staff.
On the board is in any case SONY (without the creative software).
But anything you wanted to by a reference to this fine distinction express .... but what may just be?
Antwort von Marco:
You refer the issue of compatibility on top of Sony. This can not generalize and not equally on all Sony systems ummünzen cut, regardless of synonymous Vegas. Also comes Vegas was not originally of Sony, but of Sonic Foundry. Although long seen as the snow of yesterday and today everything is under one label will have this item on the development of the program a vital influence in today synonymous and is still available, because otherwise the program would not be what it is. It is not good, everything about a comb shearing.
I could you possibly some concrete things in format questions regarding further describe Vegas, where they practice are relevant, consider this s.dieser body but totally inappropriate, since we thus come only from the first dog into the thousands.
We should therefore remain on the floor and keep an eye on what the person was who started this thread. Because someone is looking for a program for the 100 euros for AVCHD editing and since then with sledgehammer to crack a nut shot to Programs, among other things, for its high compatibility of the practice for many years is known, and we schlechtzumachen land with questions about DVCPro and other broadcast formats, as are downright evidence in the form of concrete required histories and stories which underpin their own credibility will be. Total nonsense s.dieser body. On something I am not here next to it precisely because the matter is not in the least serve. I was just about one of your statements, eavesdropping on the ice could lead straight. We must certainly not deep in Medias Res proceed.
If you are on such things Vegas really want to know more, you can contact me privately pleased. Within this discussion here, however, is more so the people helped, if they are quite practical and understandable information that they regard the format diversity
synonymous with Vegas are in good hands. And certainly - and this is probably the only one out of what the questioner is really interested in - synonymous with regard to AVCHD.
One must not in any topic forums zerreden (but is probably just happen again, sorry).
Marco
Antwort von wolfgang:
This is again unique and incredible.
@ WoWu if you have no idea of Vegas, then you are not in mass, to anyone wanting to give advice. It is nonsense that mpeg2 material Vegas spends what mpeg2 decoder could not read. I currently run a flawless, with both software as synonymous hardware. It is equally wrong to say that Vegas can not be a DVC-Pro HD editing - is located in the system, such a codec, some of the Canopus, then you can get in Vegas HD DVDPRO very well cut. And in addition to Pinnacle Studio 11 + (and Edius 4.5 with poor performance) is Vegas 8, the only software of the Sony AVCHD camcorders, Panasonic camcorders and of synonymous of Canon camcorders natively in the timeline can capture and edit.
If you practice experience with a product is missing, this is ok and one thing. But then so do not give wrong advice.
How to get someone who is of a Windows application (Pinnacle Studio) comes, and only wants to spend 100 euros, a Mac can recommend - and then the much more expensive software Final Cut Pro - I do not understand. What would need to to implement them? Reichen 2000 euros, or would not loose the 3000 or 4000 euro?
So please, please - stay times for a change s.Boden practice (and write me the finally conscious deposit slip).
@ Otzelot,
I am pleased that you are in spite of this thread seems times with the vegas movie platinum first steps undertaken searched. That can certainly edit AVCHD, but I can not say exactly what the non-importable your material is. From what the camcorder is the material - that would be still important to know, so Marco or what I can say about this (unfortunately I fall over the next 10 days that can say to nchts).
It could s.Trial are synonymous, which is still has some limitations.
Definitely, the big brother of Vegas 8 AVCHD Canon, Panasonic Camcorders Sonyand read - for Panasonic Sonyand at least some models of which I myself have geteset - material of SonyCamcordern should ever go. Only 8, Vegas is synonymous expensive.
Nevertheless, it is of the processor side of your PC restrictions, the editing of AVCHD on your PC does not laugh, that you have to say quite sober. More processing power is needed, or solutions via Intermediate codecs - such as Neo said.
If you are on this issue read more like - look here:
http://videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=4686
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Wolfgang
... but read the whole Tread once in silence and, above all, completely.
Would you have done that, would you like such a poor summary does not happen.
@ Marco
... I'm sorry if the impression is that I have anything against VEGAS, quite the contrary, in the amount of available programs, it is quite s.einem good place. However, questions should be allowed, because criticism is really different. I would have pleased me, to the existing demands except polemic (of Wolfgang) synonymous some reasonable answers to have received.
And what practical terms, I have certainly not nearly as many hours before the cut square and are like you, but over 17 years, the interests of innumerable editors, editors and producers over the NLE manufacturers represented (in the beginning, there was no more than AVID) and also ensured that the resulting products still synonymous in a digital, commercial environment had stock.
Of course that's not important for anyone who cuts his videos, but certainly for commercial users and is a good result even for the amateur user is not harmful.
And against the background of the new standards is a good knowledge of any advantage.
The Tread of so many has become synonymous would not have been necessary.
There were only a few specific questions to which it is synonymous a few concrete answers would have done.
And anyway, who are not interested in the topic, which is already no longer there.
So, as I said, if the impression is that I have anything against Vegas is doing wrong and am sorry ... otherwise, I am grateful for any more extensive information, as appropriate, the existing doubts in the matter is still out.
Antwort von Marco:
As I said, I like to talk about in any depth synonymous and synonymous gladly give specific answers. But then s.einer for suitable job. Internet forums are not for anything good, because so short and tight, as you've indicated it would be here new topic evolving certainly not discussed.
Marco
Antwort von WoWu:
... I am totally your opinion and look forward to new info.
I am pleased synonymous but that is with you such a discussion in an appropriate case in the harsh but factual manner can lead, which is not always customary.
Antwort von otzelot:
Hello!
This is always interesting here :-)
my material is of a sony cx6ek. should be compatible.
Thank you!
Antwort von wolfgang:
@ Wolfgang
... but read the whole Tread once in silence and, above all, completely.
Would you have done that, would you like such a poor summary does not happen.
Well I did read the whole thread - that's the problem. And a debate is hard not to be confused with one that only with full of false allegations is. And if then still in the Lord of all calm recommendations are derived, then can only be wrong. DAS is still not something to do with polemics.
Apart of factual point that the questioner does not everything, but nothing useful.
@ Otzelot
So Vegas 8a can definitely read SonyCX6 material, have just tested again and you can confirm this. Movie Studio Platinum, I have unfortunately not installed - may go but not in the trial.
Antwort von otzelot:
sodele. hab at amazon vegas studio platinum ordered for 89.99.
bin mal gespannt:
s.wann delivered
b) what is good ;-) obs
erstmal danke!
I will (probably) back begging for your help, if there is Proggie :-)
Gruss
Antwort von hannes:
You will do better but here:
http://www.vegasvideo.de/forum/
Muchos saludos desde el Golfo de Rosas
hannes
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