Frage von BasicMotion:
Hello!
I have two Steadycam taken for Choice and unfortunately they can not free himself / try.
Has someone already a few experiences with Steadycam done and can tell me which of the two is the better option is, or has someone another Steadycam-Tip ready? Maybe other models etc?
Here are two systems for which I am interested in:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=270383532670and:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=300312301636 More than a few comments I would be grateful!
Liebe Grüße
Basic Motion
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Hey!
We should first resolve of the idea that these are professional products! Difficult to assess. The "Drive Steadycam Steady tripod B-Ware" looks to me very much to have a home-made. For the price, I find this too expensive.
Problem could be that too little weight down on it depends what you could possibly correct.
On the video you can see not even something with the Steadicam 8wie it is in the building) has been rotated. Instead, BELOW the Camera (as a heavy weight) off the top film and camera. Therefore, of course synonymous clear that it does not wobble so much. I would be the addition of the upper-Picture Camera interested.
The "Motioncam V4" looks even better, I think! Synonymous But here there is no video. This "tripod" is synonymous but only for light cameras, such as the XL-1 of Canon. In a SonyZ7 with certainty, it is already difficult ...
The weight and the adjustment seems to me here, but better to be synonymous!
I would always predict s.Deiner body free! (Or make sure that the product can return, if it is synonymous tested and thus minmale Gebrauchsspuren occur ...
What is eig with warranty?
Many greetings,
Constantin
Antwort von Johannes:
So I have a steady drive system and can only say that it really is good. Sauber synonymous processed and everything works flawlessly. Also, the service of the company is very good. Allerdins the captions can be something to be desired and, as with any system you need a lot of tinkering to turn it on you to vote. What however is very good there are no plastic parts when you can go broke baun. Is all aluminum and iron.
It is designed for cameras of 2-12 n.durch another set of springs can be upgraded to 18kg where I have to say that's a lot to the price. Also monitor and battery are making very good arbeitetn what you can for the other to buy them.
To MotionCam I can only say so much it except for the vest Identical with the Flycam (from India) and is just a lot of plastic is. Otherwise next synonymous not just bad for lighter cameras.
Besides when I play with the idea of my steady Delta Drive for sale if you're interested meld dich doch mal via email (in Profile)
Antwort von frm:
You need to know yourself, in this price range you will find nothing about sound.
I work with the ABA Fly 2 (; factor cost EUR 3000. The system is the hammer.
Self is based on all cases and can be seen in the photos already 3 mistakes of the suspension until the spring tension. Less wiggle, it will be with security, to customers with sowas würd I do not drive.
Antwort von c.herf:
So one of the options looks after me very Flycam from 5000. Like a quasi-twin ... However, with other jackets. The vest with Flycam comes with cine-city for around 500 ¬ ... (or?).
What do you want to achieve? I had a Flycam 5000 with arm and I got really nice shots with it. The Superbowl, or Jurassic Park you can not film but quite gentle and nice camera movements with a 2.5 kg heavy camera you get out with a little practice. And for just ¬ 200. Ne 16mm Arri you should not pinch off. It is a heavy equipment and I could the whole arm with only about 4 minutes but keep quiet for scenic stories ... OK already ......... cheap is not bad! except the matte of cine-city;)
Antwort von BasicMotion:
Danke schon mal for the numerous tips and impressions. Has been very helpful to me.
So we use a SonyHDR-FX1E which weighs about 2kg ...
@ John: I am contacting you in any case again!
It is now synonymous not just urgent need for a steady-Time System to buy it just fits right now financially and in combination with our crane we could restore the prima ... Just a steady takes time to cope.
Antwort von Johannes:
You need to know yourself, in this price range you will find nothing about sound.
I work with the ABA Fly 2 (; factor cost EUR 3000. The system is the hammer.
Self is based on all cases and can be seen in the photos already 3 mistakes of the suspension until the spring tension. Less wiggle, it will be with security, to customers with sowas würd I do not drive. So since I'll be fully and completely to speak again! Stefan Czech as a large and well-known Steadycamoperator makes with the Glidecam which also makes the 1600 is to get great shots. Beweißt And so it is with much on the operator arrives good pictures as close to the system, but it seems many people (and thus, I speak directly to anyone) understood. For local broadcasters should I once with a Steadicam SK2 film (; believe system costs around 6000 euros)
and the pictures looked bad. And with a Steadycam shots without Fullrig see synonymous not just bad.
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Hey,
because you're sure you're a good operator, if you are with the system have achieved bad shots? ;-)
I have a very favorable with Steadycam (L'Aigle Full Rig System) synonymous relatively good shots right. Only too little weight was below s.System attached so that they are in the relatively light curves to the right and left abgekippt is.
Of course, it always depends on what you want on film. But with a professional system that can better shots right. (The 6-fold, of course, price is not 6-times better shots xD - by which I mean the price of an overpriced aluminum spring construction will suggest).
Many helpful hints, how to build a Steadicam operated, how it runs so you can find on the Internet.
Many greetings,
Constantin
Antwort von frm:
A Steadycam system the cost is 3000 EUR, but my initial thoughts synonymous. You can generally with much practice with each system.
I'm glad for my system and I have raised the money after I've viewed several synonymous.
Only I würd Eur not for 1600 as part zusammengeschustertes buy.
Da würd ichs rather imitating!
Antwort von Johannes:
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because you're sure you're a good operator, if you are with the system have achieved bad shots? ;-)... I'm too modest when I say I'm a good operator, because I next to the school in my spare time and make synonymous only since December 08 and that with the expensive system is synonymous been a while since. And that is very different than mine, so it is somehow clear that it is not immediately good. Thus I will just say this is not necessarily to the system arrives.
I do not think that the expensive of the cheaper Steadycam from the basic principle differ. I think there are more little things to work everyday just easier. I film all, or 2 days now time to examine only s.Wochenende and then I just Saturday Adjust my Steadycam half an hour again.
NA AND! But for everyday work is not well and so have the cheaper devices synonymous still a few bugs on the wegsieht you just forget it, because the few times they do not disturb, but öffters and so annoying.
And this is particularly so in the West.
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Hey,
often been true that there are little things that a system of ¬ 1500 ¬ a 2000 system. But compared with a 6000-9000 ¬ system are not all that! Since it is not only (as synonymous) to adjustment, but rather the processing of joints, springs, to counterbalance, jacket, etc.
If you are with a professional system bad recordings have achieved, but it was probably because you have not practiced so warst. Often, these systems are so much harder synonymous why Steadicam Operators Bears are xD
A large DVC-pro camera with your 20kg (?), You can on your system would not attach. And these systems are thought yes!
If you are with a small digital s.der Steadicam and turn a few things (as already written, just counterbalance what you do to the weight of the camera can calculate it) verbesserst should you do - especially if you have a lot of practice with the system did -- In any case, reach good shots!
The cheap system, with whom I've worked, I could almost as much weight on it, as the camera has weighed. As a result, that the whole system under the chest hung.
Many greetings,
Constantin
PS: Steadicam Operator work my knowledge is not synonymous
every day
for several hours.
Antwort von r.p.television:
A large DVC-pro camera with your 20kg (?), You can on your system would not attach. And these systems are thought yes!
Fortunately, the cameras are not really as hard as you like of suspects. My DSR-500 weighs with Optics, Viewfinder, Battery, Rodsupport, spark gap and large Mattebox about 11.5 kilos. That is pretty hard. Over 13 kilos you today with a standard EB-camera no longer works.
20 kilos on a shoulder would be the death of each spine.
