Frage von Mel:
Hello!
I know I am destined to 5647398394587575.ste who asks this question, but perhaps you can still help me in my search for a suitable camcorder .... You can secure this, o)))'m not here for no reason!
Although I read a lot here, but know quite what I actually do, I still do not wants!
We, that is my husband and our daughter (just over 1 years) is currently filming with a SonyTRV something a digi8-cam, its probably something very special ..... As our small but now is getting faster, I can such a "monster" in the hand not long with me rumschleppen ... Now therefore be somewhat smaller.
And now the question of what Cam is ideal for our needs? The old has provided us with my dad available.
Well, what do we want?
- A small handy camcorder
-he should not have too many bells and whistles, I just want to shoot, nothing more
- Photo is a secondary function, as I with my photos make a super digicam
- Some shots are held outdoors, but certainly the majority in areas where family hesitate to say Christmas (in Christmas lights) birthday, or things that our little doing for the first time, etc.
- The films have been processed but never 1:1 and burned to DVD as (obviously synonymous films results in the one hour included a sleeping child, o)))) therefore may be a functional or non videoschnitt firewire so wrong. .... But there are no cams at all?
Erstmal you that enough for first hints? Oh, so our limit is 750 euros, which is perhaps even more interesting ...
There are simply too many cams durchzublicken to a layman. Had a trial with a Canon MV780 and was launched for 300 euros and so disappointed in the quality of the shots were really pale and unreal, and you can have my room it's snowing, although it was really bright in the room.
Greetings of an overworked, o)))
Antwort von mkrawietz:
You need not be really sad mel, ohnhin because there are no more choice in the video sector: INVESTMENT any other than the Sony HC3 or HC1 is the euro worth going to spend.
Antwort von beiti:
On the one hand you want a very bright Camera (low noise in low light conditions), the other a very small camera. Unfortunately, that does not go together. Camcorders are smaller, the smaller / fainter are their Lenses and more or less rauschanfälliger the CCD chip. The Winz camcorder is therefore disappointing across the board in terms lowlight. This is a little background info.
However, you have to currently Comparison Digi8 one-camera, which is already due to the cassette size rather bulky. Most MiniDV camcorders are easier to handle, because the smaller cassette drive takes up less space. To that extent you will surely find a suitable compromise between size and intensity.
Since you (like me from your lines in identifying) a notorious Automatikfilmerin no ambitions to acquire technical skills, you should also on well-functioning automatic functions (vsBelichtung, Laying White Balance and auto focus). Further equipment details, which are traded here in the forum other than essential (manual functions, which are connections for microphone / headphones, etc.) you rather have no preference.
The requirement is: camcorder with good lowlight properties, reliable automatic, is not larger and heavier than necessary, and for a maximum of 750 euros.
The Panasonic NV-GS 500 might be optimal, explodes with nearly 1000 ¬, but unfortunately, your budget.
In case you can make friends with a DVD camcorder (since you already need not cut and s.end DVDs), could be the Panasonic VDR-D 250 for about 650 ¬ an alternative.
Antwort von Markus:
INVESTMENT any other than the Sony HC3 or HC1 is not the Euro worth going to spend. Why such statements are always of anonymous page, is surely clear. I certainly would not support this recommendation and instead supplements a matching Information:
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HDV is me because of the high compression ... Had a trial with a Canon MV780 and was launched for 300 euros and so disappointed in the quality of ... The experience you have already made themselves:
Which camcorder to 300 ¬? - Need Advice! I would keep the Digital8 Boliden (myself so one). The technique is relatively robust and the quality and processing is synonymous well.
What is there today for the Money?
The Geizzeit can simply not produce a good camcorder ...
Antwort von beiti:
The Geizzeit can simply not produce a good camcorder ... Quite so pessimistic, I would not see it, for there is in the class p. 1000 euros (which five years ago, the introductory price) is still a good camcorder was. But a true knowledge lies in any case, behind St. Mark's statement: Just because a device is new, it need not be of better quality. Digital camcorder in PAL Resolutionhatten about 5 years ago their quality climax. What has come since the market is at best just as well - but often as part of the price competition synonymous worse.
The rule that we now get twice the performance at half the price from last year, may apply to memory chips, but not on complex devices such as camcorders.
Antwort von Ivy:
The requirement is: camcorder with good lowlight properties, reliable automatic, is not larger and heavier than necessary, and for a maximum of 750 euros. Hi!
So you have to resort to these criteria in my opinion is not equal to 500, you can calm the 280s (which then fills out your budget though, but certainly does not exceed the turn). It is clear lowlight in this area were not as strong as the 500 synonymous, and the picture quality is weaker, but in the first Christmas tree lighting is synonymous lowlight not necessarily the same and secondly, it brings the 500 in
real lowlight synonymous not the best results.
If you are interested in these camera models, Forst dich doch mal
by this mega thread. (Sorry Mark, I have stolen one of your favorite links you ... ;-))
Lg,
Ivy
Antwort von Markus:
... First Christmas lighting is not necessarily synonymous equal lowlight ... So I think that says a lot about your Christmas trees, and above all their lights! Were you) the template for the film "Help, it's Christmas very much (" *? ;-)
* Quote: "20,000 light bulbs - and if one is broken, not burn them all"
Antwort von Mel:
Hello,
hey, danke erstmal for the answers, it seems, there are only two cameras on the market, o)))
The GS 300 seems to be really interesting? (The 280 is supposedly identical only without dv-in, why they will not be in different but parallel test called for the GS 300?) And the price is exactly synonymous in our budget ...
the first accurate reading seems to me the GS500 for my requirements but hochgegriffen something to dive into a semi-field ambitions because I did not really, I just want to film my daughter grow up and hold that for eternity, o))
DVD-Cams I am not quite so convinced, the max. Recording time is probably even 20 minutes? Since I have many DVDs with me, but many rumschleppen ... And I've synonymous before, postprocess the film somewhat, but to me this is simply a matter of cutting out bad scenes.
Panasonic has probably ahead, what concerns or digicam?
Thus, I seem to end so my thanks to your help but to be come even closer? At least I know now that there really are little cameras that are not worth really was and that I should buy a camera for 300 euros, as I've already experienced synonymous even though I had always been very happy with Canon.
Then I'll just read more next time reports, scour your next forum, because the numbers 280, 300 and 500 but subject here very often: o) and then make up my mind.
Tendency GS 300 ...
Thanks love you all erstmal and then I'll return to my Dad's old Sonyzur sale times, with a slightly smaller cam to my daughter, I can safely run faster afterwards ...
Mel
Antwort von steveb:
Tendency GS 300 ...
good choice!
Antwort von Markus:
... then I will return to my Dad's old Sonyzur sale mal ... What do you do then with all the recent Digital8 recordings? First, data copy on MiniDV? Otherwise you could even play it no more ...
Antwort von Ivy:
Hi!
So the 300 is a good choice, assuming you need the DVin. From everything we hear is me of you, this so necessary for you but not really. Why then a few more Teuronen raushauen for something that they themselves need not at all?
The DVD-Cams: So only the sake of truth: There is greater than the blank DVDs for 20 min, it is synonymous to 60 or 90 And you can edit the material synonymous, especially if it is an RW disc, it is possible to cut directly into the camera. However, you are doing right in wanting to take this opportunity of a distance. The picture quality is simply worse, because the files directly into DVD format compressed. So: Take the 280s or even 300s of the Panasonic.
We (my way, in any case, Panasonic has just before just before Sonykurz before Canon JVC ahead, but we are always nciht agree, but mostly already ....)
@ Mark: For my Christmas tree lights: There synonymous could only mean that my eyes are still completely in tact and himself find his way in lowlight-range ... :-)
Lg,
Ivy
Antwort von mkrawietz:
a good overview of cameras to get here
"> http://www.film-buch.de/artikel.php/products_id/88
Antwort von beiti:
the first accurate reading seems to me the GS500 for my requirements hochgegriffen something, In terms of features and price you are right. My recommendation referred to the fact that the GS500 in terms Lowlight something performs better than the GS280/300) (Keywords Christmas tree. Whether you this subtle difference is worth the extra cost, I can not say.
Panasonic has probably ahead, what concerns or digicam? Panasonic has much catching up in recent years, while next long Sonyetwas lay ahead. Meanwhile Sonyim builds affordable segment only camcorder with touch screen handling, which is at least a matter of taste, for many users (such as me, however) a KO criterion. Even with Canon, there are the really interesting device only in higher price ranges.
Antwort von Mel:
If that does not work with the citation, ....
What do you do then with all the recent Digital8 recordings? First, data copy on MiniDV? Otherwise you could even play it no more ... Mark, then probably the GS300 but is not it? So that only I could just copy the videos on MiniDV right?
However, before all movies are burned onto a DVD or go broke at some DVDs?? People do not make me nervous, o))
I just hope time that the films are synonymous with lowlight not bad (although that is perhaps a little synonymous ansichtssache?? Maybe I'm thrilled and a shudder of you like crazy .... it lay eye, I believe there are intricacies of some "underdeveloped") and otherwise in bright Christmas Light is synonymous something: o))))
Unfortunately, beyond the scope of the 500 total, after all, synonymous had a new car here ..... And well, what can I say, the dear money ....
I'm going tomorrow, look at you in the shops, the GS 280 (the 300 I've never seen anywhere, there are reasons ?????) as it is from the handling,'m going to bring a tape and ... yes great idea, just check out times and then back home .... But how, without Cam?? Man, I should go to bed ....
Will keep you up to date and love to love you again s.alle
Good night, o))
Antwort von Ivy:
Hi du!
Take it with just a tape into the shop, there a little film and just take the tape back with. At home you will look if the picture meets your needs (it does guarantee!). And if you, the 280s or 300s in your hand that you can now really be totally no preference, because the two except for the one connection now times are absolutely equal. The 300 is among the most consumer shops in the program because, a majority of people who go there, nichmal probably know what a DVin, let alone ready to take it deeper into the wallet. Since it is a charming erstmal the cheaper 280s to present.
DVD's really do not get broken. Actually, no. If you will lagerst dark and dry from the fact a likely and if you do after a few years sicherhaltshalber new burn out the probably intended this book. Otherwise, it could happen that wegbröckeln the data, but since you do not worry about times: Before that happens is to invent a new format that keeps forever. In addition, have a satellite with several thousand DVD's hammered into space, which is scheduled to land in a few millennia and will be paid messages from the past. So far as relating to durability.
One last thing: Please do not be tempted to purchase one of our more expensive camera than you they really want. We have discussed this in another thread. For family photos, the 300 is sufficient in any case, you need to you do not incorporate the 500th You will therefore no doubt be pleased.
Lg,
Ivy
Antwort von beiti:
I just hope time that the films are synonymous with lowlight not bad (although that is perhaps a little synonymous ansichtssache?? Maybe I'm thrilled and a shudder of you like crazy .... it lay eye, I believe there are intricacies of some "underdeveloped") and otherwise in bright Christmas Light is synonymous something: o)))) It is not intended to filter out about any academic benefits that can not see a normal person. However, increasing experience with the demands of any observer of the time, because you always have better sources for Comparison. Comparison with good HD footage will look like in a few years synonymous a good DV-Picture bad a number, and an HD-compatible plasma screen shows picture error more merciless than a modern tube. We all probably have the experience that the images from our own childhood for today's standards very poor (for example, looks like there are photos of me from a Grottenschlechter Instamatic Camera and) some shaky Super-8 films, so that we sometimes wish our parents would have used a little more Sorfalt out - which is not only the choice of equipment and material concerns (that was back then prior art), but synonymous to use it. The other hand, parents tend to have something better to do than be trained as filmmakers to be perfect, and they need their money for other things than the best film equipment. It will therefore remain a compromise.
then probably but the GS300 is not it? So that only I could just copy the videos on MiniDV right? Yes.
However, before all movies are burned onto a DVD or go broke at some DVDs?? People do not make me nervous, o)) If you are good blanks (eg, use Verbatim), they go so fast is not broken. But the best quality still remains to DV / D8, and just for future reference (eg a film intercutting to xx.'s Birthday) will be able to work with the DVD will be limited. If you have to assume that you no later D8-camera more as a player is available, the lossless copy on DV is not a bad idea. DV is up to the professional area, very common, it will be synonymous in many years to find players.
Unfortunately, beyond the scope of the 500 total, after all, synonymous had a new car here ..... And well, what can I say, the dear money .... No question. Car is more important. The (I'm serious.)
(the 300 I've never seen anywhere, there are reasons ?????) Who's DV - In need not, of course, take the cheaper model. That it is cheaper, but it has nothing to do with technical effort, but with the fact that with DV camcorders are - in a VCR and are later cleared through customs. That is the reason why there is all in DV camcorder without -.
Initially you could s.vielen DV camcorders via software manipulation subsequently DV - In the unlock (I did myself so one) in use, although this has the Manufacturer of pressure from the EU technically prevented, so that it better or worse, the more expensive model must take.
Antwort von mkrawietz:
So I do not quite understand you, Mel,
But do you want your daughter to do something good and its not in 15 years when she's trying to watch their baby videos, the low-Pal Resolutionzumuten want. At this point, although synonymous HDV look pretty old, but DV is in this respect of yesterday really be.
It's not about the feeling and the situations you want to convey through your videos, which is synonymous with lowest resolutions achieved already, but it is almost unforgivable, if you HDV, this format as there is today synonymous and can be cut and edited synonymous and the HC3 hardly costs more than the better HDV camcorder does not use.
Please do not forget that your daughter later on in every single frame of your videos or photos will be very useful and you can drag synonymous for this will be very grateful.
Antwort von steveb:
In 15 years, it has min. already 2 successor cameras purchased .... but
is there anything s.einer PAL DVD suspended in terms of quality. I have also now a number eg HP CDR's which is now almost 10 years of age (then 1X burn) and still (because audio walk on) in my car CD player properly ...
So take DV camera and cut videos to make a dvd of it for posterity and the DV tapes to archive ... If there should be in 10 years no more DV cameras, hard disks are so big and cheap that it is secure loose in quality dv may be ....
Antwort von beiti:
We do not know this effect, when suddenly from an earlier time footage appears in a quality, which at that time was not yet standard. For example, it could be seen a big uproar when the first color film of Adolf Hitler were not - that we remember s.ihn us so much, but until then, we knew "posterity" of the Nazis only in jerky black and white, and the color did it again a bit more realistic.
I have seen synonymous material of a GDR hobby filmmaker who in the '70s with his children, a 16-mm camera has filmed, because he had this equipment had somehow able to obtain. Because of the high weight of camera he had used a tripod, and the absence of automatic he had brought into focus every scene clean and measured the exposure. These films look today as synonymous scan television wonderfully made - No Comparison with the shaky 18-fps-Super-8 shooting, were taken of me at this time. I will never know, as I have moved me as a 3 year. Of my voice, there are tape recordings, which I was Denoising long time and burn to CD. The few good KB-slides, which gives me between the ages of 0 and 4 years, I can now scan.
Writing long, short sense: as far as financial resources allow, it is always advisable to maintain the growth of children in the best possible quality.
Antwort von Markus:
Mark, then probably the GS300 but is not it? So that only I could just copy the videos on MiniDV right? The question is, what is cheaper: The surcharge for a camcorder with DV input or Entrust of someone who can just copy other Digital8 video systems (eg, Mini DV)?
One sticking point there is this: D8 tapes can be a slightly longer term than "have the same length" MiniDV tapes. - You can still copy everything including the technical pros and credits to be able to capture the images I initially on the computer, share them according to the destination format and play them out. For example, five-D8-six bands MiniDVs. ;-)
Would you become a
Antwort von ein Vorbelasteter:
Hello,
take the GS280 or 300 and you will live long and happy with it. The Chip and 3-fold to an optical image stabilization are simply great, the quality from today's perspective, the best economic area.
This is not advertising a recommendation, but my own experience. I myself am rather synonymous, the type who frequently out of convenience of the automatic functions currently used.
When using the manual settings, I'm too distracted from what I really want reinbringen in the box. It simply requires a certain routine and frequent use with the device for exhausting the features - but this is not my interest.
In this sense also - ran s.den Purchase.
Servus
Antwort von Mel:
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Antwort von Duisburger:
You have to decide all alone, but still buy a DV camcorder that is absolute nonsense.
The HDR-HC3 is synonymous record in standard DV and HDV output the images as a standard DV, and this in a quality which
no computer can match
your camcorder. So I would not swap my HC3 for a 550, - Euro Model like, but had to sell my NV-GS400 for it.
Greetings from Duisburg
Antwort von Mel:
Hello Duisburg,
Unfortunately I was not so fully dealt with HDV camcorders. But the catch with the cameras did not just come to? Really, there are many testberichte not it? And just first series but still have far too many teething problems ... say at least of cars .... o))
I did not think that it is so difficult to choose a camcorder ...
Who reject a is it still the Dv-Cam is not worth it?
Should we wait and save next?
Nor does it even christmas my old Sonytrv725e is yes and no longer synonymous, and while out, it is still before the VAT hike ....
Ach menno ..... I must be here in the next forum browsing ....
* sigh *
Antwort von beiti:
Cassette D8 I'm actually only 5 to be transferred again and again when I copied to DVD .. That would mean that the majority of your shots no longer even in D8-quality exist, because you have not archived the originals. Then I would at least create the backup copies of DVDs.
Who reject a is it still the Dv-Cam is not worth it? I'll find that DV is worth it when you want to stay in the price range up to 750 euros (and indeed should be synonymous to play somewhere nor reason).
Should we wait and save next? Certainly not, because this argument would still apply. There is always what Newer and better for more money.
if you want to be constantly and always on the absolute cutting edge of technology, I would have to buy something new almost every week, because the model just bought is obsolete already. No, that would not suffice. (Where, as with the stock market for beginners to buy the ever rising shares and then too late. ") One would rather be ahead of its time by Money's in exotic technique itself experimented synonymous imperfect equipment purchases, workarounds for any remaining problems and the more developed s.Qualität with a "less s.Aufnahmekomfort paid. But that's not the way for the typical family film-makers. ;)
Antwort von Mel:
Hello again ....
I want to interject again only briefly with two cameras ...
SonyDVD 505E (as the best DVD-Cam on videoaktiv .... nah, according to DV Test and synonymous if their DVD cams so no Mögt ... but based on my needs ...)
Panasonic NV-GS 250
Let's now time to 750 Euros a try the game
What say you??
Greetings tired of a square eyes ....
Antwort von Mel:
And one last time for today ....
Keywords Harddisks camcorder bspl: SonyDCR-SR90
Good Nächtle
Antwort von Duisburger:
Hello,
for the HDR-HC3, can you here, you
Antwort von Markus:
I'll find that DV is worth it when you want to stay in the price range up to 750 euros (and indeed should be synonymous to play somewhere nor reason). I agree with and complements the following information:
HDV is me because of the high compression ... (Link as
above) ;-)
SonyDVD 505E (as the best DVD-Cam on videoaktiv .... nah, according to DV Test and synonymous if their DVD cams so no Mögt ... The question is whether you want to reprocess the recording? Thus, users of DVD camcorders have their problems so that is (search, search term "DVD camcorder). The same goes for hard drive camcorder, which also include only groups of images compressed MPEG2.
Learn More:
Find suitable DV camcorder for me (500 ¬ ± 100 ¬)
Antwort von Mel:
The question is whether you want to reprocess the recording? No not really. I will possibly raussschneiden bad scenes, but I have no ambitions for more synonymous .... and no time ....
I will summarize again:
Camcorders with good lowlight properties, reliable automatic, is not larger and heavier than necessary. Actually, up to 750 Euros ...
1. Recommendation DV
GS280/GS300
I like really good, but the films are synonymous "just baked" on DVD and archived. I still have some S-VHS tapes, and which are now synonymous only around ....
2. HDV camcorder
I have nothing to play clean ....
3. DVD camcorder (SonyDCR-DVD505E)
postprocess poorer quality of recording in Comparison to MiniDV, more expensive than my desired 750 euros and difficult (which to me is really no preference) and many test reports I have not found ....
4. Hard Drive Camcorder (SonyDCR-SR90)
similar to DVD camcorders and more expensive and synonymous here, I have found even less testberichte ....
I should probably remain so but at DV ???..... or tell me now so if someone is really so with the post, it's better XXXXX
Lieben Gruß
Your Nervzwerg o))
Antwort von Ivy:
Hi Mel!
So, Take Mini-DV, überpsiel the movies on the DVD and MiniDV 's reserves anyway. Perhaps someday you will indeed by 18 harm your child or contracted as a film, but can not.
In the budget up to 750 euro is the 280 happens to be the best, so take it easy if you the lowlight deficiency has not deterred, I'm sure you'll be pleased with her.
Hard disks-and HDV cams do not come into question, DVD (for now) worse than MiniDV - so you give nen Ruck and beat to make longer be able to advise and inform you do not. And if the feeling is true for the 280s: to blow!
Until then,
Ivy
Antwort von beiti:
"Bad scenes Rausschneiden" is synonymous already a form of post, but obviously less critical than color correction, etc., where it really needed the quality reserves of DV.
I myself would buy me for many reasons, not have a DVD camcorder, but for me it's not here. From the idea that you are you still at the right post-processing and archiving durchringst the best shots, I said goodbye now. If you do nothing other than the recordings could to DVD, to be useful for your purpose, even a DVD camcorder.
This brings me again to one of my initial tips: Panasonic VDR-D 250 for around 650 euros. Is cheaper than a SonyDVD505E has, according to VAD even better LowLight quality synonymous (better than the GS280) and also not the annoying Sony's touch screen.
Antwort von Markus:
GS280/GS300 ... I like really good
HDV camcorder ... I have nothing to play purely by ...
DVD Camcorders ... poorer quality, more expensive than 750 euros ...
Hard Drive Camcorder ... similar to DVD camcorders and more expensive synonymous ... Thus far, the mood was clear. If the problem with the LowLight quality. Or another way: Is there ever a camcorder to 750 ¬, the good shots in dim lighting supplies? Or we make ourselves just a little before, and would rather fall into "bad" and "somewhat better than bad"?
Antwort von Mel:
Panasonic VDR-D 250 for about 650 euros If I read correctly that of the Panasonic can not record on + RW? Unfortunately, I need exactly this because our DVD recorders can play only + R media .....
Somehow, the idea may sound all the same film on DVD would be interesting and bypass the step of dubbing, but I'm not really convinced yet, I will now probably still deeper into the whole thing must capture. Or someone would come to me ingenious arguments that convince me ...
What does this mean?? I'll buy me this time, the current VAD, so those are just the whole test in there and then I'll sleep over it again and then decide what it should be. Taking a practice test at a photo trade and buy it there if it is synonymous price possible. And perhaps it is necessary to have a few Teuronen draufzulegen synonymous with lowlight decent shots ....
And in a few years when we have a new Television and everything we go on to HDV or HD DVD until then or or or ....
I think I've had enough and called for your patience again thank you all for your really helpful arguments, opinions, etc.
Kindest regards from Berlin
Mel
PS I give notice that it has become and why ....
Antwort von beiti:
If I read correctly that of the Panasonic can not record on + RW? Unfortunately, I need exactly this because our DVD recorders can play only + R media ..... I do not think so. He may perhaps have only to pros-media (+ R / + RW record), but he should
play all.
I will now probably still deeper into the whole thing must capture. Then I have the same time making self-promotion - Markus does synonymous. ;)
http://www.beitinger.de/richtig_videos_filmen.html
Antwort von Markus:
As is expected for the matter? Which camcorder is for now or it might have become?
Antwort von Mel:
Hi Markus,
Unfortunately, it's still not become a camcorder, or I would have reported to me already: o))) Sowas I can not after all do not love your help to keep for myself.
Actually, I had made my decision as well as for the Pana GS 300, but then my friend started s.sich intervene because "" because he gave me the Cam with all the other wanted to cooperate and give a sudden the budget was higher, and he found the HC3 of Sonyplötzlich very interesting (in terms of the future and that will be HDV!) Because good quality and very good automatic camera and exactly what we need, yes, also the lowlight quality is not too bad and since we are not really cut anyway, he said, it does not matter that we have no possibility of cutting ...
We have therefore re-read all the test reports (and indeed anywhere that has almost always been a very well received) and then again I do not know what to do.
There are indeed such opinions and to those ... Read Reviews, may already be quite nerve-wracking ... da biste of something to say and believe there's only a need, but which is quite large, and even scrap biste again uncertain ...
Jan had recently written in a thread that he expects that Canon will-come with an HD consumer model and it may still be waiting until mid-July and is so synonymous the Photokina soon ....
Sachs wat nu?? o))
LG Mel
Antwort von Markus:
So that's always with the technique: If you more money available, you'll get something better synonymous. Do you still waiting for something, there is something new, is it may be better and cheaper than the old one.
At some point you have to say, wait: That's it! That is what I want! - Otherwise, the train with all the new cases each year goes by ... s.einem ;-)
Antwort von Jan:
Yes, it is basically halt rumors, I had a little rausgehört of Canon employees, the announcement of Canon employees which will be presented at Photokina in Cologne, so everything is new this or next week, now look. Funny, but is really why the new law MVX 45i / MVX 4i was promptly discontinued and can no longer be ordered, very surprisingly good after the Test of VAD as the current SD No. 1 Consumer MiniDV Camera.
At Panasonic, we must synonymous to wait until the spring of 2007 until finally the HD model SDR HD? With MPEG 4 Recording is presented, Panasonic will begin shipping in mid-August until the SD SDR S 150 as cheats. The development / testing of Version 2.0 SD Memory Card 4 GB but takes a little longer.
Pana is a co-developer of the system to support Cons It could not be +, but pay attention only DVD Ram's can be cut with the included SW of the VDR 250 / 300, no R / - RW's.
Yes and what to buy? The new cards have version 2.0 (2007) and will not run on previous cameras no preference whether Pana / Pentax, Canon, etc. With any luck there for one or the other camera is an update, but the new FAT 32 storage system can be difficult to retrospectively make commonplace.
MPEG 2? 2007 is synonymous history, Panasonic DVD / SD camcorder and SonyDVD build on MPEG 4, which is HDV, one knows yet.
LG
January
Antwort von Markus:
MPEG 2? 2007 is synonymous history, Panasonic DVD / SD camcorder and SonyDVD build on MPEG 4, which is HDV, one knows yet. I predict that it s.Formaten in the near future an incredible mess and will be standard, because not everyone is happy to enter all private developments. Especially since some innovations are synonymous really crap.
Just think s.das slow release of the first DVD Burners: They could either pros or cons-write-read blank / and so many users would rather waited until one of the format will prevail. Can handle and then the industry has presented a solution: the devices with both formats.
So we lean back and relax wait until the HD world has stabilized somewhat and somewhere we can offer something better quality and dependable than HDV. (My opinion). As long as I will probably produce even in the SD format, which I personally find far less bad than the industry with its HD campaigns would have liked.
My last SD camcorder way, I have purchased in late 2004 and it would probably do things stand today, again. ;-)
Antwort von Jan:
Well if that is not a flop? The SDR S 150 is not! Memory card supplied, not like previous SDR S 100 with 2 GB SD.
Panasonic says they should be so synonymous so buy fast / new / large 4 GB card - which will cost us ¬ 250 .... then probably meant
Where we have gone only with our rigor ..
LG
January
Antwort von Markus:
Where we have gone only with our rigor .. Is clear: We are saving, cost what it may! ;-)
