Frage von MUVA:
hello people,
vlt you can give me some tips how I can improve the quality of the Canon XH A1s.
here's a short snippet
(; Vimeolink see 1 below)
of 20:00 hours vs. clock, with the wd72h on it
I use the preset from the blog of wolfgang (; gain that is the 3rd - with the +12 db, or), otherwise only recorded in mac premiere captured, and with best quality rausgespielt.
'm really please to help, because my opinion-cam here after the 3000 ¬ is not really worth .... I have a bit desperate ....
please watch it!
thank you and lg
Antwort von nicecam:
Windows is grad bitchy and will not play your file, why always synonymous ...
But if you're the "3rd" Preset
proboscis of use - that's the 12db preset.
The use itself is not really. Not even for
trunk. He knows that but.
Tell me more.
Antwort von MUVA:
yes, I've previously synonymous with me made a comparison, even with the 3 presets of proboscis;) - vlt gain but that was mingled with a bit much:)
my indoor setup here is the 3rd looked with available light on the "noise-free" ... and since yesterday was already rather low light, I've just thought that it would be useful.
but I'm REALLY thankful for great ideas, so I cast out of the A1S zicken.
achja: cam on the WD72h is on it.
Antwort von cwessjohann:
with +12 gain you get just anything good out of the action. The preset of trunk makes the picture very schmiering / muddy to suppress the noise. For me this is just what the emergency. I use maximum gain +3 when will it be presentable.
Antwort von nicecam:
Hi Christopher,
now I can not ducking me, that would be cowardly.
You see me very sad because of my inadequacy. I can only ask you for forgiveness. I still owe you something, you and the other colleagues ....
If the forum know about it.
Oh, I think I'll you can enjoy once more a little bit ...
Thank
Antwort von MUVA:
Hi Christopher,
now I can not ducking me, that would be cowardly.
You see me very sad because of my inadequacy. I can only ask you for forgiveness. I still owe you something, you and the other colleagues ....
If the forum know about it.
Oh, I think I'll you can enjoy once more a little bit ...
Thank ?? but that is not addressed s.mich, right?
people, please help me, here, the cam is the best out of it. that would be really great! :)
Antwort von nicecam:
@ MUVA: Nope, was not directed s.dich ...
already
cwessjohann and just synonymous s.den other colleagues, of the turn, and I know cwessjohann.
Could you, MUVA, now so do not understand synonymous.
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To your problem: I have the file still can not watch, I must have Quicktime update or something.
Maybe you can upload the movie again different: Youtube / or describe the problem again in more detail.
Must now, however, again only through in my garden, or I do not come any more.
Antwort von MUVA:
here it is: http://www.vimeo.com/13683634
Antwort von gast3:
can not understand why there is a preset used with 12 dB, the noise is normal and then takes away any harshness,
the pans are too fast, the autofocus is pumping, so in my opinion are not the fault of the camera, but .........
I use one myself XHA1s for nature films and am very satisfied with this and the Cam-Preset 3db from trunk.
My Cam is set and locked to a shutter speed 1 / 50 sec, Aperture, I'm limited to the value 9.5.
Course do not know with what mode you have the test done, but at 12db Gainverstärkung may very well that the cam on a diaphragm aperture value is less than 9.5 (11 or 16 for example) and then the picture quality is really horrible.
A 12db preset I would, if ever, use only for city night scenes, when the noise synonymous imagewise fits a little flair to the night.
Antwort von cwessjohann:
@ John.
To you be forgiven! synonymous if I know not what second Person you think or what you are aiming at all.
It is important that DU has what you have done wrong.
Have fun in the garden :-)
Antwort von Axel:
It seems you have taken in 25F. As already mentioned, 1/50tel shutters for optimal. In low light and
little movement can take 1/25tel synonymous, then the start to smear a bit on, but sometimes better than gain. Gain, as always synonymous, in the case of A1 in the dark and the better to avoid it. The Lowlightfähigkeiten this camcorder are not worth mentioning, compared with DSLR. Therefore, if it is really quite dark and you have to still pick things up, if it is synonymous for technical and aesthetic reasons not attributable to actually take the mode of "green" (fully automatic). Otherwise: Light!
Very good results have many, synonymous, I, with trunk "-3dB", at-3dB (under good lighting conditions), if need be synonymous with 0dB, and with
True Color . While "-3dB" makes a pretty picture right away, "delivers true color" read a neutral picture with optimum values for the post-processing (text).
The wide-angle ancillary recorded it, but conjures up a lot of "lensflare. Then you have to have one eye, especially in the light. Otherwise, the Camera is really wide angle enough.
My opinion on the panoramic pan (pan = all, do not follow a moving subject) I have often rausposaunt. Your swing is technically bad, but there are virtually no good. Any technical acceptable pan is a poor compromise between smearing and judder. Show me a good P-turn (like from the web), and I bite into a lemon voluntarily ...
Antwort von MUVA:
It seems you have taken in 25F. As already mentioned, 1/50tel shutters for optimal. In low light and little movement can take 1/25tel synonymous, then the start to smear a bit on, but sometimes better than gain. Gain, as always synonymous, in the case of A1 in the dark and the better to avoid it. The Lowlightfähigkeiten this camcorder are not worth mentioning, compared with DSLR. Therefore, if it is really quite dark and you have to still pick things up, if it is synonymous for technical and aesthetic reasons not attributable to actually take the mode of "green" (fully automatic). Otherwise: Light!
Very good results have many, synonymous, I, with trunk "-3dB", at-3dB (under good lighting conditions), if need be synonymous with 0dB, and with True Color . While "-3dB" makes a pretty picture right away, "delivers true color" read a neutral picture with optimum values for the post-processing (text).
The wide-angle ancillary recorded it, but conjures up a lot of "lensflare. Then you have to have one eye, especially in the light. Otherwise, the Camera is really wide angle enough.
My opinion on the panoramic pan (pan = all, do not follow a moving subject) I have often rausposaunt. Your swing is technically bad, but there are virtually no good. Any technical acceptable pan is a poor compromise between smearing and judder. Show me a good P-turn (like from the web), and I bite into a lemon voluntarily ... thank you for your comment, I hope he helps me in the next practice. the material is of course not good, but I have been unpacked cam just after my last customer on time next to the highway and filmed: P - which has just taken the time, which was captured;) is waving just so in it that I have a bissl there was a more moving image:)
I have all three presets from the blog of wolfgang from the cam, but I have misunderstood that the presets are +3 / +6 / +12 db?
Antwort von nicecam:
The presets
apply to
-3 / +6 / +12 dB, or can get the most out of these gain settings.
And
ATTENTION: As I often said before, (the preset 3db have you in accordance with the instructions of
proboscis so hopefully corrected) the corrected preset number 1 on the map written back then, or take the card out.
For the camcorder used alternately stored in the camera and the presets on the map. If you then inserted the card are using at an
uncorrected preset (the camera does not report to you whether the stored value or the degree of the map takes up) then again you have ghosting.
The film I now views briefly. Well, where many Gezoome wagging and you can appreciate the noise did not really ;-)
Antwort von Axel:
I have all three presets from the blog of wolfgang from the cam, but I have misunderstood that the presets are +3 / +6 / +12 db? No, it was
- 3, +6 and + 12, on
this
... please really to help, because in my opinion the cam to here is not worth ¬ 3000 ...
You ask for an assessment. The A1 (without "s") provides needed ~ 2000 ¬, who sold it rises, usually on DSLR to, or, as I made, even yours no more. Had the camera, which would be contemporary, tapes and cards instead of 1920 Resolutionstatt 1440, it would be equivalent amenities one SonyEX-1, but the synonymous 6000 Kracher will cost. These facilities relates to manual control, which is synonymous in the case of A1 rigorous exercise but must, otherwise you have a AVCHD camcorder for 1000 ¬ more likely to buy.
Antwort von nicecam:
No, it was - 3, +6 and + 12 .. I said it ;-)
... Because the page is not to be found on the official blog. Just after all -
Antwort von Axel:
Or you had the foresight to save time? Yes, my bookmark management is in scope and a sort of private-Google. Be afraid only that I am the only one who understands the system, as the librarian of
The Name of the Rose, only his trainees had reported it. This tragikomischerweise but dies
before him, synonymous and his days are numbered. That should give us food for thought ;-)
Antwort von MUVA:
The presets apply to -3 / +6 / +12 dB, or can get the most out of these gain settings.
And ATTENTION: As I often said before, (the preset 3db have you in accordance with the instructions of proboscis so hopefully corrected) the corrected preset number 1 on the map written back then, or take the card out.
For the camcorder used alternately stored in the camera and the presets on the map. If you then inserted the card are using at an uncorrected preset (the camera does not report to you whether the stored value or the degree of the map takes up) then again you have ghosting.
The film I now views briefly. Well, where many Gezoome wagging and you can appreciate the noise did not really ;-) yes, I've played all three on the cam, and got the first preset synonymous adjusted as described. the map is still in there.
perhaps there reading this a bit more? a book or something?
dslr change does not come into question. I will if I überleg wg 1920 map and switch on the xf300. capture the spirit comes to me on;)
Antwort von nicecam:
@
Axel: I save everything of interest from synonymous in Favorites.
Whether now nicecam John survived, or vice versa>
egale situation ;-)
Antwort von XHA1owner:
from the XF300/305-TEst "In low light shows the XF300 not a bad picture, but is of many current consumer cameras of the Sony EX1 or synonymous with 1/2-inch chip significantly surpassed."
So can I take for the EB-field (accidents, etc) a synonymous Panasonic SD 707? you have to stop runterrechnen of HD to SD ...
Antwort von MUVA:
I invite now a video up again, of just today,
with the following setttings:
canon xh1 A1S,
proboscis preset-3db,
WW without intent,
f8, 1 / 500, AV mode.
rushes as clean and looks seem * e: (
Antwort von gast3:
You have the necessary synonymous remaining parameters of trunk respected?
AGC switch to OFF? (AGC to generate strong On Noise)
Gain on L (LOW)?
And why do you use obviously not the ND filter (shutter speed 1 / 500)?
Antwort von MUVA:
F ** K! gain was set to high, the ND filter was off ... my error. : (
ACG was off
the rest was set to specified trunk. So film: get out again tomorrow!
here the vid http://www.vimeo.com/13711765
thank you here ever s.alle, which take the patient. love you guys!
Antwort von srone:
how about, if you would sometimes deal methodically with your camera, instead of pointless video-posts, which only show anyway. that the man behind the camera has no idea of what he is doing.
The XHA1 is a very good camera, but it is not that of making their own good pictures, here you are even required, presets proboscis outstanding are certainly persistent point one, they should have applied all synonymous to what one assumes some understanding of the used technology.
lg
SRone
Antwort von gunman:
how about, if you would sometimes deal methodically with your camera, instead of pointless video-posts, which only show anyway. that the man behind the camera has no idea of what he is doing.
The XHA1 is a very good camera, but it is not that of making their own good pictures, here you are even required, presets proboscis outstanding are certainly persistent point one, they should have applied all synonymous to what one assumes some understanding of the used technology.
lg
SRone HI,
Just my opinion!
People buy ¬ 3000 Cams and have no idea!
Gunman
Antwort von gast3:
I'm just your "considered Test2", tell me, did you perhaps the viewfinder magnification "Magn" transferred to the Picture? Is to say, with the button Magn You can even enlarge the viewfinder image lost twice, which is used for manual Schärfeeinstellung.Nun it is (in menu) synonymous possible to take this focal length magnification to Picture, but that would mean digital focal length and so bad Bildqualität.Ich come to me because of the tele so marked appears when you zoom in (the test s.end towards brown wall for example)
Shortly asked, appears possibly "MAGN" in the viewfinder when you film?
Of course, I may be totally wrong with my assumption synonymous, because I was your distance from the object does not really know .....
Antwort von MUVA:
how about, if you would sometimes deal methodically with your camera, instead of pointless video-posts, which only show anyway. that the man behind the camera has no idea of what he is doing.
The XHA1 is a very good camera, but it is not that of making their own good pictures, here you are even required, presets proboscis outstanding are certainly persistent point one, they should have applied all synonymous to what one assumes some understanding of the used technology.
lg
SRone I'll do that. I sit apart so yes ... and I wonder just whom and who knows - where should I ask otherwise than in a technical forum such as this?
Antwort von MUVA:
how about, if you would sometimes deal methodically with your camera, instead of pointless video-posts, which only show anyway. that the man behind the camera has no idea of what he is doing.
The XHA1 is a very good camera, but it is not that of making their own good pictures, here you are even required, presets proboscis outstanding are certainly persistent point one, they should have applied all synonymous to what one assumes some understanding of the used technology.
lg
SRone
HI,
Just my opinion!
People buy ¬ 3000 Cams and have no idea!
Gunman bla bla bla bla bla bla
your kindergarten meaningful brings neither you nor me next.
yes, I've bought the cam - and?
Yes, I can afford it - and?
I still have other equipment in other areas (canon dslr vehicle), dj-vehicle etc.
hire as with most: who buys cheap, buys twice. therefore I have the same "right" investments.
and if I had found a good reading (a good example how to do this on amazon.de or so), then I would not synonymous here wsl specialists "nerves".
But this are forums there. I've already synonymous with the cam a little explained (proboscis presets etc), I miss just synonymous with a bit of time.
and sour for your comments I really do not reuse.
Antwort von MUVA:
I'm just your "considered Test2", tell me, did you perhaps the viewfinder magnification "Magn" transferred to the Picture? Is to say, with the button Magn You can even enlarge the viewfinder image lost twice, which is used for manual Schärfeeinstellung.Nun it is (in menu) synonymous possible to take this focal length magnification to Picture, but that would mean digital focal length and so bad Bildqualität.Ich come to me because of the tele so marked appears when you zoom in (the test s.end towards brown wall for example)
Shortly asked, appears possibly "MAGN" in the viewfinder when you film?
Of course, I may be totally wrong with my assumption synonymous, because I was your distance from the object does not really know ..... gast3 hi, thanks again for your input. no, MAGN does not light.
Antwort von srone:
the many manual einstellungsmöglichten the share XHA1 requires a certain experience, such an experience can not but ask that you have to prepare themselves, of course because only then you really know what you recruited there and what goes on there, a reasonably experienced cameraman would be immediately noticed that in the prevailing mood in test2 light, diaphragm 8, 1/500tel shutter can not vote in anything that I with my experience, something like you learn only by practice and try out, take your time and try all functions and then methodically through , are almost as icing on the cake proboscis presets off if the basics are clear.
lg
SRone
edit: did you read through synonymous and understand what has made proboscis to effortlessly create the presets?
