Frage von soahC:
Hi @ all,
I would like your opinion to this effect heard. Sorry it's so short, but that small piece has 3 hours to upload lasted:)
What would you do differently and how? Would you, the "displacement wave" s.Boden raushauen?
http://vimeo.com/2436698
Thanks in advance
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Hard to say if what I and any "differently" would be, since I have zero clue what you achieve exactly / visualize wanted! Maybe just telling you a little about what goes and what you want to show?
Antwort von soahC:
Well, the ground breaking on or flies away. The Color of the door leaf rust s.and anything is ...
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Aha ... Now, if you just want to show you, then ists superduper gelungen! Congratulations! Next question?
For me, this looks rather simple, as if a distant nuclear bomb with the wind storm the top surface of the car (interestingly, without affecting the arm) abrubbelt ...
Antwort von soahC:
Meine Fresse, echt krass was from the forum has become ...
Where you see a car, I wonder synonymous?
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Well, the door could well become a little outdated Zugswaggon (wagon) his. On closer inspection, it seems easy but ne entrance to the school around the corner to be. Sorry! But plays for the evaluation of the "effect" hardly ne role, or?
What have you for a problem with the forum? - That one you after 3 seconds movies without any additional information which the bustle serve, not "Ohhh" and "Ahhhh" and so for the use of a plug-in effect under the masking Ärmchens hinhaucht ???!!!
Well, enlighten us what the whole thing is! Then we can judge synonymous mans! Visually Reinhartshausen ists and relatively unspectacular little exciting! But you do not want to read!
Antwort von soahC:
Yes exactly, now hast dus acquired. Angepisst because I'm not coming Ohhs and Ahhh ...
The term "first impression" is known or you? I just wanted to know what the people shall be the first climate change when they see that.
And the school really is not, and it is actually around the corner:)
To the forum: you get here is simply no longer reasonable answers. Either one will zugelabert of any people for the most part just want to profile and with silly sayings, or the questions are so ridiculous as synonymous understood that only stupid sayings come. Because everybody knows less than you do so only a fool can be. Now that I am not referring to my thread, because I hardly have questions or anything like that. But it is on hold. And that is synonymous with nothing to do with the tone, because one may well harsh wind wenns go after me. But nothing if not clever rüberkommmt
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Mann, mann, mann ... Mimose! Überleg you have a look for yourself how your own thread with your little effect (7 hours raufladen for 3 seconds movie clip ... yeah right ... - Ridiculous per se!) Across! Then you can perhaps understand why A) only just one person has replied (I) and little times that person was moderately impressed. And if you ever all my initial response after reading, then do you find that I'll primarily mal ne second chance to have what SUBSTANTIAL hinzukrakeln, with the then I (and possibly other synonymous finally!) Generated a little interest would have to then you really missed you so much recognition to send ... - Unfortunately, you have this opportunity lightly forgiven and missed, and the rest is history and can be of s.nach here top to be read.
Oh btw: If you are here in this forum stinks, then I recommend it just to stay away! I'll definitely not miss!
Antwort von soahC:
So, first times I have not uploaded 7 hours but 3rd And secondly is there for a reason. As you might have seen the video, you can then download. And as someone else takes the piece, it is for me the easiest way to him today as soon as possible. But mainly just tearing Fresse ...
And again: It's about the first impression! And next: You say it's even a 3 sec. Chen effect. What should I say big because. But leave that aside ..
And the chance that I am before you to justify it as acknowledged Gracious me, you've not used I am sincerely sorry for your majesty.
BTW: After A comes B;)
I think it's done now ...
Antwort von mann:
Oh btw: If you are here in this forum stinks, then I recommend it just to stay away! I'll definitely not miss! Why so roudiness equal? "soahC" has nothing else has been called as intelligent answers, but is ok, even if his subject SHOULD be naive, you do not like draufzuhaun - or did you's necessary?
Antwort von domain:
SoahC has become the likely date of publication in a given situation, which I very well know and understand can be synonymous. A plant was ev mühseelig with a still a relatively unknown software created and man is powerful and proud of it wants to reap the recognition and man is of course synonymous by the tool itself is very enthusiastic and unprecedented opportunities for themselves in the future, everything something is exaggerated .
Do you know where SoahC then unfortunately often the problem is a little frustrating?
Each of us has been so many films and of course, synonymous included animations and other effects seen that they have for every human being actually quite normal and nothing special at all anymore, unless it is what is really new, or possibly synonymous touching the emotions .
If so, unfortunately, but that was some time so see, it almost made itself stand out and ask what I would probably say, if someone else would have done. If I were really impressed?
You need always synonymous meddled a degree s.Realitätseinschätzung and self and in addition to the positive motivation is always to make next.
Antwort von shodushitanaka:
Meine Fresse, echt krass what has become the forum Synonymous waiting times from other opinions.
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For video
Is even a very short preview.
I would be interested to know what setting follows ...
for example, a shot ...
Perhaps you invest a little and do a little scene around it ... and if, then anyway with Sound; rustle, rattle, scroll ...;)
Gruss
Antwort von PowerMac:
Am I now synonymous ruin a game, when I say the effect was moderate to poorly implemented? I have seen and is better. An Effect is never synonymous Effect s.sich, but as a means in the movie. So movie upload!
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Meine Fresse, echt krass what has become the forum
Synonymous waiting times from other opinions.
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I thought synonymous .... So 4 seconds are not just self-explanatory.
But next to you to support you for ever "ok" from. is because, depending on the course even more Softwear (to "spline" along moving shutter EFX, etc.) But like the "nothing" to assess the whole thing is too difficult to enforce, "The lights themselves, but you probably synonymous to or?
So only now, on the Effect
- Different shutter / Splitter Sizes
- Each / Each particle ne Random frequency / ie / from radiating / - sträu angle
- Rotational speed varriable Create
- Schärfenebbenen multiple graded / create blured
................
But without more context, "difficult to define
MfG
B. DeKid
@ Powermac
Angs petition before the next - lol ;-)
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Hard to say if what I and any "differently" would be, since I have zero clue what you achieve exactly / visualize wanted! Maybe just telling you a little about what goes and what you want to show? I quote myself simply times and even repeat what I said earlier soahC: According to this, first response would have come as substantial MUST / MAY, and everything would be gone next positive.
If after my neutral-positive-interested issue after holding only explanation so Kiddy comes as scrap
Well, the ground breaking on or flies away. The Color of the door leaf rust s.and anything is ... (Stating the obvious!), Then the tiger in me and awakened their generous Wow!-The-world-is-a-Shatter effect-where accuracy is gone!
Is but a little bit to see my reaction ...
Frequently halt is: How in the forest inside screams, then sounded again! (In the figurative sense here perfectly applicable!)
Antwort von soahC:
So then I try it again now:)
So, the "film" is still not ready, but meanwhile there is a presentable version.
Please no comments about the loud footsteps, which I've now heard 1000 times already:) It is the first version and the sound is not mixed and not entirely synonymous ready.
The effects still needs a little screwed, especially s.Nebel. It is already clear to me.
Otherwise, have fun and always with her critique;)
http://vimeo.com/2849926
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Cool, what makes her what the effects are concerned! Congratulations!
Tell us times like these you Shatter Effect exactly've done!
What I liked less is actually the classical Cinematografische: Partial unmotivated cuts, focus on the wrong moment, then pulled and not really accurate (eg, beginning with the approaching feet) and then of course the ultimate "Oh-here-we-see-a-amateur movie instead of zooming driving or cutting-to-large-neck against the closing.
The effects and the Electronic dus echt drauf seem to have and I like that! When there's actually films a lot to learn, but surely you'll manage!
Weiter so!
Antwort von soahC:
Oha. Quite new sounds:)
Yes, the Cinematografischen agrees with the well unfortunately. Originally I just wanted to test if I am such a rudimentary Effect target. So I have with my Panasonic NV-GS 500 test a few filmed. They gave me so much that I worry a little bit longer wanted to make. So, I took me a HVX200 borrowed from the work and a little storyboard with my girlfriend made. That I will not lend dolly or similar expense hurts perhaps run the "movie", but is understandable, I think:) (we are traveling with a skateboard trying. That this does not happen in the movie says something about the success of this Veruschs)
I got me a few times with the Aperture missed (overexposed), and the sharpness is synonymous not pulling my field (cut've studied, no camera). The Gewackel in some scenes of course, the focal length.
What exactly do you mean with unmotivated cuts (which scenes). I do not dispute that it exists, they are not part of very careful work in turn arose;)
The effect is to declare themselves but quite complicated, but I've written a tutorial (unfortunately in English)
http://www.videocopilot.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=7973
As I said, this is the first version, so comments are very helpful. On film I can only change little.
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Yes, certainly "new sounds"! As I already wrote above: "How in the forest reinschreit so synonymous sounded out!" And when what substance is being offered with a clear description of what you want and what is (not as blah as you had originally posted), then you desire and motivation synonymous what concrete and possibly even helpful answer! ;-)
Thanks for the tutorial! I habs not yet read (and thought through), but there are sometimes pleasant and - for me - amazing that you have a good and quite understandable and correct English to write!
To Cinematografischen more in detail:
- 00:14-00:24: The beginning is ok blurred. But once at the feet of 00:19 left in the foreground, they should be the crack and stay sharp.
- If, at the same setting Umschneiden of Closeup to Wideshot (or vice versa) completely changes the background (grass and nature to concrete at 00:14 and school grounds S.00: 24 and then vice versa when walking in the shot to Mittkörperarmeschlenkern in the close-up) then from the looks as if s.unterschiedlichen locations have been rotated and the Takes not belong together, even if it s.gleichen site was made.
- 01:04-01:28: She is on at 01:08 and goes to the right of the Picture. At 01:09 she again in right of the frame. This means that the spatial orientation of place where what is actually expires. - And then at 01:17 of the ugly, multi zoomOut! That would be, if not a dolly or Steadycam there was no better with one or more cut / s in the larger cutout solved.
- At 01:35 this intersection turn loses the focus. Where are we NOW?
- Etc..
Versteh not misunderstand me: I am quite clear that this is primarily about the Proof of Concept implementation of your cool effect and was not about a finished, cineastisch coherent film. Therefore, my criticisms above Stänkern at quite a high level and do your performance in any way demolition! - And: When Rotate it much more difficult, these filmic No. Gos attention than it is later, the finished, endlessly repeated and anhaltbaren film haar small to criticize. ;-)
Antwort von soahC:
Oh my God. Oh, I can grade garnicht believe that I have the right mt-from-picture-and go from right-back has not noticed:) Da kriegt man eingehämmert in the study and still not see it:)
Well, as I said, something else was planned, but when turning forget verkackt ... Because it is a kind of 'demonstration effect' is synonymous, I think it is not necessary something nachzudrehen, but that is as (I hope) an error of me does not happen again.
Thank you
Antwort von vertov99:
- 01:04-01:28: She is on at 01:08 and goes to the right of the Picture. At 01:09 she again in right of the frame. This means that the spatial orientation of place where what is actually expires. s.dieser body is definitely a bug before? know this rule, but here I would not be disturbing. perhaps because of the change from close-up to the total, perhaps synonymous, because the actress starting with the setting already scarce "in the picture is." perhaps synonymous, because here a short time is erratic and suggests that the actress since the last adjustment already has some way to go?
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Is no preference, obs ne rule "there or not (yes film is not an exact science). I like it do not stop and it would most probably like that a different kind of film this would be pleasing. If you are so good / better like it is ok.
Antwort von markusG:
What strikes me is the effect in my opinion, to linear movement of the splitter. Maybe that is intentional, but I find a umherschwirren like wind credible. But that probably depends on which s.was the "decaying" triggers. But that was I think in a similar way mentioned above?
Antwort von DWUA:
"...
Credible ..."
"...
Rules ..."
If it comes from a simple situation, from (a) simple
Scene (s) without any kind of story to create something
magical, the effect is
disturbing, this is good!
This must logically synonymous times like against
credibility and all Akademismen violated.
;))
Antwort von Debonnaire:
"... Credible ..."
"... Rules ..."
(...)
This must logically synonymous times like against credibility
and all Akademismen violated.;)) Because remember: The confusing bit is filmed, the less of the spectator into the fictional "reality" shown the way there, the more convincing is the objective of "disturbed" over! - Yeah right ...
The exact opposite is true: the more disturbing and so that the everyday reality of reverie something SHOULD work, the more painstaking and exact cinematografisch it must be implemented so that one does not think that it is simply confusing random scrap, but wanted Skillfully and surrealism!
In my opinion, SHOULD fail exactly the most non-convincing experience marginal productions that ONLY they are "different" to s.keine visual "rules" or at least approved habits and thus keep the audience after a short time lost off, so that he is mentally and interessemässig ausklinkt!
Antwort von DWUA:
Debonnaire:
Why hast thou not the important
premise mitzitiert?
It reads:
"... If it comes from a simple situation, without ...
any story ... something
magic to create ...
this is good ...".
"Confusing" in your "cinematografischen sense" is there absolutely nothing.
Is yes no opportunities to do so.
Your remarks are so consistent,
but we do not take (too).
(Shooting far over the top.)
;))
Antwort von markusG:
If it comes from a simple situation, from (a) simple
Scene (s) without any kind of story to create something magical, the effect is disturbing,
this is good!
This must logically synonymous times like against credibility
and all Akademismen violated. I have no extra "realistic" hingeschrieben. If you have some "magic" simply can not buy just because it is so discredited has nothing to do with realism. That is what I order. So it seems quite arbitrary.
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Read just what I am the thread starter next top certifies more than once, then you can save this discourse! My further comments were then no longer directly to THIS thread, but more generally on what had DUWA-in!
Antwort von DWUA:
@ MarkusG
Thank you for your instructions regarding logic, rhetoric and
Semantics.
One never learns!
;))
