Frage von jazzy_d:
Hello
Has anyone the H4n?
I looked at my part phantom power, condenser mic preamp and recorder in one device (; may with a "downlevel" synonymous by the line-output to the mic input s.der Cam).
Is there any significantly negative to report what? If anyone has experience with the H4n that would be very interesting.
Thanks and greeting
Daniel
Antwort von Rico_79:
That part is really ok, only the processing ... borderline:)
I had as a child toy that was more workable. But function / price-performance / maneuverability is impressive.
Antwort von videjo:
Hi Daniel,
So the H4n and I am very satisfied.
The processing now, I find not bad. . .
I find it absolutely easy to control.
When man uses the built-in microphones, you should not be Handhalten the H4n because you hear every embrace with his fingers, but it's an extra handle supplied so far.
Regards
Jo
Antwort von Rico_79:
That part is really ok, only the processing ... borderline:) Small correction: Have the
H4, not the
H4n.
Antwort von Dr. Walter Gesierich:
I'm sorry: (bad sentence, refers to H4 without s). The processing of you called with your already. Handling: arg menülastig. Variable to use: very good.
But now kommts:
Synchronous bad behavior. And that is indeed important for us filmmakers.
We have a Zoom H4 as a video club loaner. We make frequent theater recordings, 1 hours s.Stück, with 3 cameras. All cameras, although coincidentally of SONY but colorful mixed type, TRV 900, VX 2000, PD150,-Z7 HDV, HDV Z5 run in any combination after 1 hour still exactly 1 frame synchronously.
Filmklappe test with PD150 and Zoom H4: after 6 minutes is the Zoom H4 slower by 4-5 frames, which're at 0.2 sec This is the best case, and indeed if the WAV file via USB cable in the Computer transported. If you play but the sound recording analog 1:1 programmed into the editing, the Zoom H4 recording after 6 minutes already slower than 1 sec. That may go for a short interview just about everything else has to be dubbed at least every 5 minutes.
We have again this evening 2.5 hours outdoor theater film them. 5 microphones are combined with a mixer and then given on Line-in directly to a Sony-Z5. I want to simultaneously record synchronously the mixture. Yesterday evening synchronous test: 12 years old portable Sony MiniDisc recorder from SONY PD150. After 9 minutes on Frame's exactly synchronously. Yet I have played as an aggravation of the minidisc in another, stationary SONY device to transfer it 1:1 in the computer.
Another example from the Zoom H4: The sound quality and the sensitivity of the built-in microphone is suitable only for interviews, direct s.Objekt. Even at a round table discussion clearly too low. The sound is far inferior to the connected external microphones (; Sennheiser ME 64 and ME 66), albeit much more expensive. In reverberant churches at weddings, right next to the bride: built-in mics completely unusable, with ext. Sennheiser ME 66 tip.
Moral of the story: The old-proven cutting-edge technology proposes a new practical tool.
I have such an assessment, however, synonymous already read somewhere else ...
Well, then, purely in Ebay, it salutes Walter
Antwort von vidoc:
I think that the tests with the H4 is only partially transferable to the H4n. Just please do not make the built-in micros to scale and then compared with those that cost falls entirely alone more than that.
The H4n has good processing, the micros are improved compared to the H4 (but worse than the LS10), the use of external micros I see no problems, in sync, I do not know, my recordings always go up over a few minutes. I've never experienced anything difficult. But of course, replace the equipment H4n no benefit. Is thus synonymous to ask what level you need ...
Oh outdoors without * quality * screens & you can forget.
Antwort von jazzy_d:
Thanks for the messages.
I get s.Montag expected to test a H4n. Times with the hope of asynchronicity has improved compared to the H4. But I have been synonymous statements heard, that would be because of "bad" SD cards.
Incidentally, I have found interesting links for "downlevel", for those who are interested: http://www.crownaudio.com/kb/entry/279/ and http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/circuits/line_to_mic.html should - so eingentlich simply be :-)
Antwort von vidoc:
Theoretically, but certainly synonymous measured, the signal-noise ratio worse if you chase the sound bites twice through a mic preamp, moreover, where neither H4N still cameras have really high-quality preamp ... if that's relevant to hear that you jar file due to test in advance.
Antwort von Starter:
There is a nice movies to H4N ... THAT part I will :-)))
Antwort von jazzy_d:
So our -Papst/Guru audio from the video club is full of enthusiasm of the recording quality with his Neumann mics, and has the H4n bought now for me. The quality will be even better than with his 19 "professional equipment.
The asynchronicity is the way to the H4 "only" be half as much. Well look, sometimes.
:-) I'm looking forward to my first recording was with NTG3
