Frage von dr jones:Hello, I would like finally my miniDV's to DVD burn, since it is already quite a few have become and I want to describe again. I've tried it with computer, with Sonymitgelieferten of the program - but the quality is very bad!
Is there a program that is currently burning of miniDV to DVD easy and does without quality loss?
Does all this perhaps with a standard DVD recorder with hard drive without quality loss? Are there such devices (DVD recorders) possibilities of editing without s.Computer then need to edit? (Eg cut)
Thank you for your answers
Antwort von Quadruplex:
Does all this perhaps with a standard DVD recorder with hard drive without quality loss? Without loss of quality of your movie in no case on DVD. Only depends on how big it is. The range of 'not to notice subjective' to 'modest'.
DVD recorder is - but only if you have at best a few want to make hard cuts.
On the PC, the latest version of Magix Video deLuxe a good MPEG encoder bring. As the latest Nero Vision Express version, others have to answer. Since it is of both programs are free trial versions, you can give it a try myself simply synonymous.
Hello, I would like finally my miniDV's to DVD burn, since it is already quite a few have become and I want to describe again. That is, given the prices for tapes and the time required for dubbing is a very stupid reason. The tapes you should in any case archive - as described, you have the DVD copy in any case losses. Moreover, the tapes do not benefit by more frequent.
Antwort von thos-berlin:
Do you want you really for this reason do?
Reading a tape lasts one hour
Converting to a DVD, depending on the calculator several hours
You need not be there all the time, but a quarter of an hour per tape comes together at least. In a Mindetslohn a letter carrier for about 9 of the Euro are 2.25 for the time spent.
A blank disc costs of the spindle, without Case, between 0.40 and 0.50
Along you come thus to about 2.75 for archiving. In addition, the power for your PC and the decreased compared to the original Quallität. In the time of converting the PC, you can not use for other things. The effort of only 15 minutes per tape, I think really synonymous for too short. Moreover, the 15 minutes from multiple bites.
On the other hand, there is a price per DV tape of less than 2 euros (eg 5 for TDK 9.99)
In my view this is not really economically ....
Did you have the tapes actually ever on the PC to edit?
If Yes, you did it on the occasion can just burn.
If not, you can simply play it on. The probability that you ever used it drops to zero. Postprocessing of the DVD is so unwieldy that you no later SOWISO'll refrain.
If you have the tapes onto DVD wllst bring to them regardless of your camcorder to be able, would be a DVD recorder a good choice, provided that a DV - In has. For cuts in the artistic sense of a real post is unsuitable. For the removal of any debris (eg, advertising) is sufficient. Moreover, the dubbing and burning almost in real time, not over night, just like on a PC.
Antwort von dr jones:
Hello and thank you for the answers. I understand your concerns, but I have my reasons:
1. The DVD is simple, for example, in and out herspulen, miniDV rather reminds me of earlier s.eine Audiocasette
2. I plan to make copies of private parties, of shared leave, etc. s.Familie pass that goes with DVD but much easier ;-)
3. I would like to leave some things in between successful or not as shaky scenes that I would interfere with a miniDV, I could just skip through coils
4. Is it on miniDV not that the tapes with frequent standing s.Qualität lose? So it was with me at least for the Cassette for VCR, if so I find it not so good times between them to view
5. I can understand the miniDV a second time and recorded at 10 miniDV's about 25, - ¬ sparen (for my Sony miniDV). The third record, I would but, first, a quality test, if the picture is still good.
6. When playing a miniDV, I must first connect the camera s.Television, however, is a part of my DVD in my home theater system and the sound can be controlled through the surround system to run instead on the Television.
Now the question arises whether s.Computer processing or a DVD recorder to buy (I will at some point anyway). Yesterday, directly or a Firewire cable ordered and then try it with my laptop and Windows Movie Maker and Nero Vision.
I only hope that with the loss of quality in limits.
Regards.
Antwort von Anyone:
the mini dv footage on dvd to get is nothing
on to say, but the avarice of the tapes again to use
and not to be archived, I can not understand ...
when saving this mentality then the cheap dvds
someday no longer want to be the most wars ...
gruß cj
Antwort von Markus:
1. The DVD is simple, for example, in and out herspulen ... There are even extra Spulgeräte. D
zum Bild Points 2 and 3 read like a normal video editing with subsequent distribution. Whether you for ¬ 2.50 per cartridge than the originals really want to play, you'll already know.
Now the question arises whether s.Computer processing or a DVD recorder to buy (I will at some point anyway). In this case you buy the first DVD recorder, firstly because you will do anyway and secondly, you can then test whether such a device claim your DV editing s.den can fulfill. If the recorder is synonymous a hard drive, simple cuts are much easier and you can video synonymous same (ie one after another of course) to burn several DVDs.
Antwort von thos-berlin:
Dr Jones.
as already written. The points 1-3 are a normal video editing and you want to drive out None. You had in your first posting of archiving spoken.
Make a tape suffer if it is more frequently used. It is almost irrelevant whether playing or recording. A function control can not be sure that in another recording but not a drop-out happens. (Points 4 and 6)
To watch the video s.Television a DVD is better. I hope that you other people just the cut version will show that you indeed in accordance with point 1-3 together want.
For item 5, it should be mentioned that I vorgerechnet you have that you do not really save money. You can show for the failed synonymous scenes always burn a DVD. That you should do but in addition. I would never delete the original. On the contrary. From my major, I have not finished a DVD, but also a tape. We know today is not really what lasts longer: tape or DVD.
There are many videographers, yet all the tapes since the beginning of their Filmerei can play. But it is in the last 10 years, many self-DVDs kaputtgegangen. How important are you like your shots?
You write that you at 10 bands save 25 euros. How many films you? Are these tapes s.einem tag, in a month or a year? It does not matter much to you your Filemerei worth.
Antwort von Dr Jones:
Hi, how I see it is a lively debate has become. So, with that for miniDV archiving is better than a DVD you're not quite convinced me. The points "as long does a DVD?; The quality of the images is less" are correct. But:
I already have bad experience with video8 and a Sony camcorder made. The recordings from this time (my father did before they bought about 18 years), we can no longer play (luckily we have some videos on VHS dub), so we will not s.die original recordings. Reason: the camcorder has a couple of years the spirit abandoned. It would be possible, a friend of video8 camcorder hire, but who gives his camera already? And if s.der Camera precisely what I have broken the ass ;-). While there are a handful on ebay video8 of camcorders, but despite that they are outdated quite expensive (p. 80, - ¬) and who gives me already a Garanie?
The same fears I have synonymous with the miniDV. Who knows if I was not in 2-3 years to buy a new camcorder with a hard drive and my current sell or give away? Then I have the same problem with video8. If I keep it, but (the miniDV camera) can I assume that after 10, 15 maybe 20 years until broken. The result: the same problem today with video8. I can then probably a company to prepare the data on disk corresponding to the transfer and it's really expensive.
Remedy could perhaps create in the man (does it without quality loss at all?) The files of the miniDV on one (external) hard drive is archived. This digital data then you could always new, of the art customized secure storage medium.
What do you this?
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Take a 500-GB hard drive. Per hour DV need du 13 Gbytes. Since then not quite fit 40 hours on it.
Then zerledert it going just two or three sectors on the disk and it is with on-board resources completely unreadable. That means then synonymous "with one blow everything away!" At this moment you can then apply s.eine data recovery company, and believe me: You pay these prices will certainly not if you have a cassette zweifuffzich from thrift repeatedly want to use. That is quite loose in the four-digit range.
Your sitting on a pile of pictures, your s.die no longer comes, because you do not dare, to ask the friend or a 80-euro investment in a camera suitable for Umkopieren operations. But 250 euros for a hard drive are already in it?
Sorry, I could be a little bit too unrhymed. This hobby costs money now.
Meanness is not GEIL.
Antwort von Quadruplex:
I already have bad experience with video8 and a Sony camcorder made. You get Sony is still of little money for a Digital8 camcorder, the tapes play these and even the same PC via Firewire s.den can give.
The fundamental problem that you ansprichst, however, is correct. Video tape is in the normal stress and the correct storage longer than the necessary recorder. If you have old VCR, Betamax or any other oldies in the basement, should they quickly digitizer. In the public service broadcasters to store a couple of old-and BCN Quadruplex machines (and probably synonymous U-Matic) deliberately to the old stuff to be able to copy or digital formats. They can be synonymous but the people afford to do it.
The same fears I have synonymous with the miniDV. Who knows if I was not in 2-3 years to buy a new camcorder with a hard drive and my current sell or give away? Then you're stupid.
I was in synonymous assumed that in ten years, no computer drives longer be produced. But DV is the installed base for professionals like amateurs so great that I have little to worry about would. If you're scared, go two or three dimensions. Keep your original tapes, make backup copies as DV-AVI on hard disks and (so do not get to the disc jockey will) as DV-AVI on Blu-ray. One of three should be synonymous nor in twenty years' work.
This digital data then you could always new, of the art customized secure storage medium.
What do you this? See above - but here you have someone write that synonymous hard abrauchen can. And, to reassure you again: My oldest VHS tapes are 25 years old and still running. However, I am now given the shitty VHS synonymous concerns new devices ...
Antwort von Markus:
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