Infoseite // mov file 640x480 30fps / s without loss to DVD compliant format

Frage von seiliebschatz:


hi all,
I have all kinds of movies at 640x480 30fps / s as * mov file. to convert the movies and on dvd to burn is not a problem, the question is just how off and what the settings are correct to the best quality to get.
or perhaps it makes more sense svcd's to make it? (because 640x480 format already) but still 30 fps / s.
pal dvd format to conform to convert, but it is necessary to 25fps / s and 720x576 to make.

or I see this wrong?

alternative I would choose ntsc dvd format 720x576, 30fps / s, then I think times will be no visual loss occurs. but can do any dvd player or plasma without converting?

have video deluxe 15 premium, nero9 full, photoshop CS4, any video converter, etc., as well as the codecs.

long story short, there is a crack to tell me how can I get my ausgansmaterial without visible losses on dvd do?



Antwort von Wotan:

You will probably not have nachvollziehhbaren quality losses by using the Resolutionauf 720 * 576 vergrößerst. Even if you do then verkleinerst the loss would probably not measurable.
The question is only eigentlichh codec and bitrate. DH if you create a video DVD like, you have to, willy-nilly, must take MPEG2 PAL and NTSC anyway because not everyone is definitely a DVD player geschweigendenn Television.
25 frames PAL and NTSC is 30 frames anyway no loss of quality. At 25 fps does not smoothly, at ntsc wirds so to speak only about 5% if I am not mistaken schhneller played, so what ... 24 fps movies have ;-)

You need only versuchhen a möglichhst high bit rate when recoding to DVD eintsellen. 9.500 KBit suggest then you s.wenigsten loss in DVD format and remain in the norm.

lg, harry



Antwort von tommyb:

Uuups ...

Quote: You will probably not have nachvollziehhbaren quality losses by using the Resolutionauf 720 * 576 vergrößerst. Even if you do then verkleinerst the loss would probably not measurable.
When a video-and then again runterskaliert, then not only mitgeschleift artifacts (due to the existing compression), but the Farbkanaläe interpolated synonymous. This may be a very visible loss of quality after being taken - it is measured in each case.

Better is the video before edit, filter. For example, with Avisynth to at least the grossest or blocky artifacts education ironed out.

Quote: 25 frames PAL and NTSC is 30 frames anyway no loss of quality.
There are more pictures in NTSC displayed per second, PAL is correspondingly less (concerns only the progressive format, and even then has NTSC 29.97 fps).

Quote: At 25 fps does not smoothly, at ntsc wirds so to speak only about 5% if I am not mistaken schhneller played
Unfortunately you wrong.

A sg Normandlung of NTSC to PAL (TV) is not offset by the slower playing of the video footage obtained. It is tough work s.den frames - that is, either in NTSC frames omitted in order to achieve 25 FPS (Score jerky) or they will be the bulk of the frames zusammengeblendet (result not jerky, but is rather blurred in motion).

Quote: so what ... 24 fps movies have ;-)
That what you mean is called PAL Speedup. There are the films with 25 instead of with 24 frames played. This makes the films in Europe, incidentally synonymous shorter. There's more here: PAL-Speedup

Übrigens machen selbst die Amis ein s.g. Telecine, es werden dabei Zwischenbilder errechnet um das 24p Material auf 30p zu bringen. Resultiert in mikroskopischen Rucklern.

Quote: PAL-Speedup

Übrigens machen selbst die Amis ein s.g. Telecine, es werden dabei Zwischenbilder errechnet um das 24p Material auf 30p zu bringen. Resultiert in mikroskopischen Rucklern.

You need only versuchhen a möglichhst high bit rate when recoding to DVD eintsellen. 9.500 KBit suggest then you s.wenigsten loss in DVD format and remain in the norm. PAL-Speedup

Übrigens machen selbst die Amis ein s.g. Telecine, es werden dabei Zwischenbilder errechnet um das 24p Material auf 30p zu bringen. Resultiert in mikroskopischen Rucklern.


9500kbit / s only works when pressed DVDs. Self-burned DVDs should 8000kbit / s do not exceed the otherwise jerky is on the bulk of.

Is better than 7000kbit be used for video and 192kbit around PAL-Speedup

Übrigens machen selbst die Amis ein s.g. Telecine, es werden dabei Zwischenbilder errechnet um das 24p Material auf 30p zu bringen. Resultiert in mikroskopischen Rucklern.

for the sound (compressed as AC3). Then, the total bitrate approx PAL-Speedup

Übrigens machen selbst die Amis ein s.g. Telecine, es werden dabei Zwischenbilder errechnet um das 24p Material auf 30p zu bringen. Resultiert in mikroskopischen Rucklern.

7200kbit / s (including overhead light) and this in turn is highly compatible.


Sunday PAL-Speedup

Übrigens machen selbst die Amis ein s.g. Telecine, es werden dabei Zwischenbilder errechnet um das 24p Material auf 30p zu bringen. Resultiert in mikroskopischen Rucklern.

To thread starter:

You have, unfortunately, a somewhat bad lot with your camera withdrawn. Either you walk your 30p video in 25p which you

s.Frames away leaves (jerky)
b) frames together to hide it (blurred)
c) the whole than 50i ausgibst

A and B, you should with NERO can achieve away s.besten C works with Avisynth and the following script:

[code: 1: aa112f6c0d] qtsource ( "datei.mov")
converttoyv12 ()

changefps (50)

lanczosresize (720.576)

separatefields ()
select every (4,0,3)
weave ()
[/ code: 1: aa112f6c0d]

To embed Quicktime file, you PAL-Speedup

Übrigens machen selbst die Amis ein s.g. Telecine, es werden dabei Zwischenbilder errechnet um das 24p Material auf 30p zu bringen. Resultiert in mikroskopischen Rucklern.

need you also have the Quicktime plugin for Avisynth runterladen. This can be found here:
http://www.tateu.net/software/dl.php?f=QTSource
(comes in the "plugins" folder of Avisynth)

With this script you create a more or less standard-compliant video. It is interlaced, ie it contains 50 fields, but you and your TV will be without problems can (synonymous when 20 of the 50 fields are interpolated).

The video then you can, for example in the program and feed VirtualDub A WITH Lagarith the codec compressed AVI file, or create the AVS file directly into Nero throw. Perhaps you can file it directly in MPEG2 and convert into a DVD mount.



Antwort von seiliebschatz:

ok, thanks for the reply.
I will try.

With the release of the camera I already have more than 10 years ago pulled ;-)
then it was still really high-tech and up to date.

I have of course a HD camera now, but the movies I made back then I may have referred to my world of course, not denied (synonymous if some are more than terrible). ;-)

nice day
...



Antwort von Alex_HH:

@ Tommyb

What a detailed and thorough answer! Thank you! (I do not synonymous if the thread starter bin)

Goes with the avi files from my Casio Exilim Z7 with just 29 fps?