Frage von sirtpx:
Hello slashCAM community
I would like to buy me for the upcoming holidays with an HD camcorder to freeze the moment in moving pictures.
Criteria for me are the following:
- Recording media should preferably be an integrated hard drive, recording to external flash memory would be synonymous conceivable.
- Recording in Full HD
- Maximum of best image quality, clean
- No problems with camera pan / minimal streaking / blurring
- Price range: 650 ¬
After careful research I have undertaken the following devices:
- Panasonic HDC-HS60
- Canon HG20 (; HDD)
- SonyHDR-XR200VE
Unfortunately, I could, none of the above devices mal live anschauen. All electrical wholesale chains and smaller dealers have none of these devices on site.
According to my information, the devices feature Panasonic Sonyand of the video signal with a lower data rate as the unit of Canon. How practically relevant is it?
How are things generally made compatible with Batteries? Panasonic indeed seems to support only chipped versions of what the compatible Battery Manufacturer does not exactly life easy. What is it like when Sonyand Canon?
How is the Image Stabilization rate for the three devices up? Any major differences?
I'd be happy of you get any tips for upcoming purchase. I would like to order the latest s.Sonntag.
Sincerely,
Thomas
Antwort von beiti:
Recording media should preferably be an integrated hard drive, recording to external flash memory would be synonymous conceivable. Hard disks are only temporary solutions (they make noise, need more power and are more fragile than flash memory). Given today's flash-Prices barely see arguments for a hard drive. I would even have a camcorder with no onboard memory preference (ie only with SDHC cards), which has the great advantage that it does not directly connect the camcorder s.den computer needs, but only with card readers can work.
Recording in Full HD Today, almost all the promise camcorder - but it really solves None (if you evaluate the actual resolution of detail and attention, not only the technical data). Do not be too concerned about Resolutionbitte. For the other aspects of picture quality are much more important.
According to my information, the devices feature Panasonic Sonyand of the video signal with a lower data rate as the unit of Canon. How practically relevant is it? The data rate can ignore you. But of course there are between camcorders or other differences in quality.
Panasonic indeed seems to support only chipped versions of what the compatible Battery Manufacturer does not exactly life easy. What is it like when Sonyand Canon? At Canon, the Batteries are unfortunately accompanied synonymous with Cips. There are "compatible" replacement batteries, but that does not work with the display of maturity, and you have to load it in a special charger.
Antwort von sirtpx:
Recording media should preferably be an integrated hard drive, recording to external flash memory would be synonymous conceivable. Hard disks are only temporary solutions (they make noise, need more power and are more fragile than flash memory). Given today's flash-Prices barely see arguments for a hard drive. I would even have a camcorder with no onboard memory preference (ie only with SDHC cards), which has the great advantage that it does not directly connect the camcorder s.den computer needs, but only with card readers can work.
Recording in Full HD Today, almost all the promise camcorder - but it really solves None (if you evaluate the actual resolution of detail and attention, not only the technical data). Do not be too concerned about Resolutionbitte. For the other aspects of picture quality are much more important.
According to my information, the devices feature Panasonic Sonyand of the video signal with a lower data rate as the unit of Canon. How practically relevant is it? The data rate can ignore you. But of course there are between camcorders or other differences in quality.
Panasonic indeed seems to support only chipped versions of what the compatible Battery Manufacturer does not exactly life easy. What is it like when Sonyand Canon? At Canon, the Batteries are unfortunately accompanied synonymous with Cips. There are "compatible" replacement batteries, but that does not work with the display of maturity, and you have to load it in a special charger. Hello Beiti,
Thank you for your informative comments.
That certainly makes sense with the memory - I am clearly of Höhrer Flash-expected prices. Which classification should it have the SDHC card? Are there any general recommendations? Or is the writing rather subordinate role? For an hour of HD recording material in superior quality I can calculate about 10GB right?
If I am in the Choice of the HD camcorder to the Manufacturer Canon, Panasonic and Sonybeschränken or should I keep for alternatives?
After a short search I was able to locate the following devices:
SonyHDR-CX115E
Panasonic HDC-SD66
Panasonic HDC-SD20
SDR Canon HF200
Panasonic HDC-TM60
Panasonic HDC-SD200
Which device would you recommend for up to 650 ¬? The photo function is not important.
Sincerely,
Thomas
Antwort von nicecam:
JVC thou mayest consider synonymous. Others should remain outside.
Antwort von beiti:
Which classification should it have the SDHC card? Are there any general recommendations? At least 4, but better 6th
For an hour of HD recording material in superior quality I can calculate about 10GB right? Depends on the maximum data rate of the camcorder. At 17 Mbps is about 8 GB / hour, at 24 Mbps approximately 12 GB / hour.
Antwort von sirtpx:
Those are times of ultra-fast answers :-) Thank you once had for it.
I now have a few tests comparing the above subjects together. Here I noticed that the image quality of the Canon HF200 SDR is underlined. Tests on Panasonic HDC-SD66 or Panasonic HDC-SD60, I have not been able to discover.
Are there any of the three models this experience?
Sincerely,
Thomas
Antwort von sirtpx:
Hi All,
who has the choice, are spoiled :-) So I would describe my current situation.
Panasonic HDC-SD66 (405 ¬)
SDR Canon HF200 (460 ¬)
Canon HF SDR-S100 (664 ¬)
To this end, I added the following questions:
1.) The Panasonic has the advantage that it has a nice wide-angle. Is it about more than einene Weitwinkelvorsatz Wide Anglebei generate the two canyons? Has any drawbacks?
2.) Is it worth the additional cost of 200 ¬ of the HF200 HF for S100?
3.) Which camcorder would you recommend for me. My gut feeling tends to HF200. Or I have missed a good unit in my application and price range?
Many thanks and kind regards,
Thomas
Antwort von beiti:
The Panasonic has the advantage that it has a nice wide-angle. Is it about more than einene Weitwinkelvorsatz Wide Anglebei generate the two canyons? Has any drawbacks? Yes, it is cumbersome.
Is it worth the additional cost of 200 ¬ of the HF200 HF for S100? I see an advantage especially in the S100: the "Zebra") circuit (display overexposed points. I myself have a HF100, and the zebra in everyday life is what I miss s.ehesten. Of course, hangs from the personal way of working. I personally do not trust the automatic exposure controls entirely, and because the zebra is a good control.
Otherwise, the S100 is a little better to be synonymous with lowlight, but then there are reports of increased artifact formation. I have myself compared the phenomenon yet, so this only as a non-binding advice.
What camcorder would you recommend for me. My gut feeling tends to HF200. Back to Panasonic I can not say anything.
Between the two canyons, I would tie the decision on zebra.
Antwort von sirtpx:
The Panasonic has the advantage that it has a nice wide-angle. Is it about more than einene Weitwinkelvorsatz Wide Anglebei generate the two canyons? Has any drawbacks? Yes, it is cumbersome.
Is it worth the additional cost of 200 ¬ of the HF200 HF for S100? I see an advantage especially in the S100: the "Zebra") circuit (display overexposed points. I myself have a HF100, and the zebra in everyday life is what I miss s.ehesten. Of course, hangs from the personal way of working. I personally do not trust the automatic exposure controls entirely, and because the zebra is a good control.
Otherwise, the S100 is a little better to be synonymous with lowlight, but then there are reports of increased artifact formation. I have myself compared the phenomenon yet, so this only as a non-binding advice.
What camcorder would you recommend for me. My gut feeling tends to HF200. Back to Panasonic I can not say anything.
Between the two canyons, I would tie the decision on zebra. Hello beiti,
thanks for your answer.
I know the Zabra circuitry of my DSLR - is basically very helpful, but I do not find this feature justify the extra cost. I tend to date much HF200 - but I will still sleep a night and then order me tomorrow. I would also be interested in the Comparison of both image stabilizers - are there between the HF200 and the RF S100 differences?
HF200 equivalent alternatives to the price structure I have not found yet, or have I missed about what?
Are there any ways a compatible Battery for the HF200 to use? How have you solved this with the HF100. Can you usually a couple of practical experience to your HF100 known to do here?
Many thanks and kind regards,
Thomas
