Frage von Der schnelle Nick:
Hi,
Euro 1658 - so much is the XM2 currently pending before the EP Netshop. Since the device is indeed a legend seems to be, I play seriously with the idea of me the good piece zuzulegen. But now my question: Is there in this price range cameras, which I still expect a bit more likely, or is the XM2 in fact the top of the flagpole?
My claims: A picture of me with joy, the tears come, the opportunity to fish the Sound, Firewire. The rest I would s.sich trial. First and foremost, I need the part for theatrical film.
Do you advice?
Thanks & Regards
Chris
Antwort von rtzbild:
Hi,
[...]
My claims: A picture of me with joy, the tears come, the opportunity to fish the Sound, Firewire. The rest I would s.sich trial. First and foremost, I need the part for theatrical film.
Hi Chriss,
Picture quality is good, very good.
Sound angling the camera alone can not, you have a need to Tonangel, with a micro cable and 3.5 mm jack and one that holds the Angel, then das klappt
Firewire is standard miniDV.
HTH
Good buy!
Olli
Antwort von Bamboo:
Hi Olli,
Thanks for the answer. That is, the XM2 has make it a jack connector (that is, in comparison to the RCA, the thick, ne? ;-)
Can you give me a usable tripod suggest that I'm going to use it, without me there again some dowels to Unterlegplatte anything? Only usable, non-exclusive ;-)
Thanks again & greetings
Chris
Antwort von Chezus:
The XM2 has mini-jack that is exactly who your Walkman / Discman / minidisc player has synonymous.
Mir has a well-known at the Light & Sound in Munich of works of XM2 discouraged because it has several devices known in which the Jack ausgeleihert is by changing the microphone or the XLR adapter. You need to know. I apologize for the PD 150 decided since the XLR port (thus 2 connections).
Which does not mean that the XM2 is bad
Antwort von Bamboo:
that is, in comparison to the RCA, the thick, ne? ne, in verleich to RCA, is the less:)
It is exactly the same socket as the Kophörerbuchse how to (almost) any walkman, MP3 player or sound card s.deiner.
So very gänig like this ... there are synonymous nor 6.3mm version. Such are like s.Mikrofonen used. But there are adapter plugs of small to large (or vice versa), which are often at the microphones here.
Antwort von Der schnelle Nick:
Thank you for your answers! I still have hip-hop from earlier times (better ;-) two microphones in the basement, of course with thick jack connector (6.3 mm). The, I would be able by 3.5 mm adapter s.ein part depend then on the old mic stand and so Angel ummodeln record, correct? Angelei Is this because a book with 7 seals or as simple as it's me introduce myself (keep it simple!)
Since it seems no one there that I now says: Hey, for the coal, but you get the Dingsbumssowieso of the company with extra Schlagmichtot much blah blah blah - should I be?
Many greetings
Chris
Antwort von Chezus:
Will you make a new camera would you or any other synonymous Camera (better quality and equipment) into consideration?
If yes: SonyVX2100 or SonyPD 150 (possibly 170 is still quite expensive), since much stronger (no cheap plastic like the XM2), better light, plain and simply a better camera.
If not to inter -
Antwort von Der schnelle Nick:
Hi Chezus,
thank you for your answer. Well, as I said: More than m. W. n. cheapest price for XM2 (the 1658 Euros), I would not actually spend. The VX2100 makes its name and will cost around 2000, and for others I find on the usual suspects (preissuchmaschine.de, froogle) no offers?
In itself I do not really hang s.der XM2, but her image of the thing seems already to have some effect ...
Regards
Chris
Antwort von rtzbild:
Hi Chriss,
the "secrets" of the sound fishing you will find
here The VX2100 is negotiating with some skill (residual stocks] at the local dealer may be cheaper to purchase, save maybe 300 euro, if you then for 2k euros and you get the dealer nor a video clip for its showcase machst TV, you can look.
On the subject of Jack:
Buy (or build) you a jack-jack 2x stereo 3.5 mm) adapter, Male angled in leaving the cam, clutch s.den grip getaped or with cable ties.
Alternatively XLR jack.
You have then only s.Adapters from plug-and no longer s.der Cam.
HTH
Olli
Antwort von Markus:
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Antwort von rtzbild:
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Antwort von Markus:
I use the tripod whenever [...] I deliberately did not recognizable as the profile will ... Freudian slip of the tongue after the Christmas gluttony? Or a new miracle diet? ;-)
Antwort von satori:
With Picture Country you'll find amongst the SonyPD170 cost around 3200th - including Sony Silver Warranty
Antwort von Bernd E.:
SonyPD170 cost around 3200th - including Sony Silver Warranty In comparison, but note: This price is net, so now even without 19% VAT!
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Johannes:
I recommend you the Sonyvx2000
just needs very little light
and you get them to s.and (on ebay) for
under 1000 ¬.
XM2 to the problem of child marken
Dealers (all is not always s.nimmt Video abund not to
or is not with your computer)
John
ps: synonymous've made the mistake and bought ne xm
only makes problems
Antwort von oliver II:
XM2 to the problem of child marken
Dealers (all is not always s.nimmt Video abund not to
or is not with your computer) I have my XM2 been about 3 years. Never synonymous only had a problem (I use a variety of cartridges and games on both computers, as synonymous to Casablanca).
Antwort von Der schnelle Nick:
Grmpflgrml .... or: Hello everybody!
I must admit that I now have next purchase generally removed from the bin, as a thread before opening. First of all thank you all for s.euch valuable contributions - now I know, however, is no longer what I believe.
After I researched next now it seems that this is now with the XM2 yes in fact such a thing to be. After Johannes' Tip (VX2000) but now I'm again on the VX2100 became aware that I already was recommended - and unfortunately still is sauteuer. For 2000, I would take the thing yes, but for 2400? Although I am about the only positive thing read: Does the quality difference between VX2100 and XM2 really 800 euros more? Indeed, with 2.4 k I'm actually already weiiiit over my limit. Hence my question: Suppose that the quality difference is worth, can I be sure that I am with the VX2100 for 2400 euros par oberaffentittengeilste part was that no longer getoppt can help me and watch my first recordings with joy the tears come?
I'm so kameramäßig the absolute zero point (oh!) And would like now, of course not mean that you do here now that Chris writes together tutorial, but: The VX2100 has
Antwort von Markus:
The VX2100 has hier ein Cons bekommen wegen fehlender 16:9-Tauglichkeit? Hä? Das kann doch jede Grützencam?Dann schau Dir synonymous mal an, wie "jede Grützencam" 16:9-Bilder erzeugt. Da hätten wahrscheinlich viele ein noch dickeres Cons stehen (Stichwort 16:9 Letterbox).
Querverweis:
VX 2100 sample image ...? But times another question: If you are self-critical than zero point s.der Camera describe, then why do you want so much money (actually already over my limit weiiiit ") stuck in a camcorder? Please do not believe that a good camcorder alone provides good recordings! As the cameraman has a huge influence on it ...
Antwort von Der schnelle Nick:
But times another question: If you are self-critical than zero point s.der Camera describe, then why do you want so much money (actually already over my limit weiiiit ") stuck in a camcorder? Hm, either I have just too much money and too much time - or I have my reasons.
Please do not believe that a good camcorder alone provides good recordings! As the cameraman has a huge influence on it ... Thank you for this brief introduction to film practice. Please do not believe that I have no idea of the matter was - it is just (so far) not on the technical, but on a different framework.
Incidentally, I will not even stand himself s.der Camera - I hope this does not concern you even more ;-)
Greeting
Chris [/ quote]
Antwort von MichaSpr:
hi chris,
I would just you a better solution
recommend and not synonymous with HDV
start ....
for action that is perhaps not optimally
as einstieg ....
However, in a quiet ride and good camera illumination
is the result of an HC1 certainly
hardly any of the DV camcorder to beat.
16:9 So the camera should start
(may be my old PC100 finally been synonymous)
because the viewing habits (tv / beamer) tend in this format.
because many now converted to HDV (hüstel: I synonymous), the good
dv camcorder prices still falling slightly,
or for sale on ebay are.
gruß cj
Antwort von Johannes:
Hi Chris
I stay with my vx2000
The XM2 is synonymous not ordentliges 16:9 ;-)
John
Antwort von Markus:
Either I have just too much money and too much time - or I have my reasons. Why so irritated (or to me the only way)? - If you like the VX2100 gives you can buy them of course. I will certainly be the last of these first-class camcorder you would deny. ;-)
And if you like the 16:9-Picture not like it, later you can still have a normal anamorphic (1000 ¬) to buy.
Antwort von Chezus:
And of synonymous to me again: savings on the VX2100. It's worth it. The processing: here comes the XM2 you like toys before (roughly equivalent)
And, above breasts created great shots until you get when you watch a film camera of Arri or Panavision buy, and a few hundred thousand euros to the head posals.
The pictures alone are good, but you will not have to cry so. As I said, only on celluloid and an empty wallet (you do not understand)
The motive and the post-play the most important role, not the camera alone.
Believe me, that should not now Klugscheißerisch sound.
Antwort von Markus:
And, above breasts created great shots until you get when you watch a film camera of Arri or Panavision buy ... Now is not the Chris Flausen in the head. ;-)
Antwort von Chezus:
After doing first yet and I must be jealous of him. Hey Mark where you're grad because I had to ask a few times to make partial autonomy and I thought that I was with you s.der'm right place because you have so technicians were previously chemistry and the industry as a side've done (the Filmerei). Lieg I correct?
Only if you ever have time.
Antwort von Markus:
After doing first yet and I must be jealous of him. Right. And I with the medium of video'm not unhappy. This has its advantages synonymous.
... I would ask a few times to make partial autonomy ... Star you order a new thread?
Antwort von daniela_:
Why so irritated (or to me the only way)? That you so - I am just not really been clear whether and what I tell you to your Halbfrage reply to. Because I have my reasons clearly and am well aware that a great picture for a long does not make great film project, but why can I still after the best possible picture quality look ;-)
I understand you both so far right that the 800 surcharge on Tacker XM2 be worthwhile? Oh yes, and unfortunately came up on the current lack of use or frequency is not as by what is here with her http://testbericht.guenstiger.de/meinungen/Sony-HDR-HC1-359442.html?
Many greetings
Chris
Antwort von Johannes:
hy
somewhere up there was the ever begin not with
HD an.Spar prefer for the VX2100.
I only with a digital fotoaperat starting
Dan Canon ex2 (Hi8) and now the XM1
John
Antwort von Der schnelle Nick:
In fact it was a bit above, but only:
ch would you just a better solution
recommend and not synonymous with HDV
start ....
for action that is perhaps not optimally
as einstieg ....
However, in a quiet ride and good camera illumination
is the result of an HC1 certainly
hardly any of the DV camcorder to beat. Now the camera linked to me of a lot cheaper than the VX2100 and of action, I have never had a sound synonymous words, ergo I do not understand what the camera is talking, or why I, like you write, "not the same with HD" "start" is up and what you want if you are to me the beginning of your talking with a digicam? That I should start small? - I do not know why the level of my professional ambitions as relevant for the buying bezügl. the picture quality of different cams is - because I somehow do not come with - and there will be synonymous still does not explain, because I think it is not relevant. I'm only on the technical field of the camera purchase a bloody Beginners, but did not must mean that I am in terms of "Cinematic Project'm a beginning ...
Many greetings
Chris
Antwort von Johannes:
Quite simply if you want to make holiday videos
None here will give you an Arri or Panavision recommend.
If you want to but an Oscar will mature movie Rotate
None dir hir a Panasonic GS 24 friend (am
not sure).
And what I tell you with my list would say
it is not only synonymous but the Cam on the
Erhfarung to the cameraman. With DV it is different
Filmproduction expensive but go for a defective
the cameraman ever 16000 ¬ flutes.
John
Antwort von Markus:
Hi Chris,
how much more s.Bildqualität the VX2100 to deliver a XM2, I can because you do not say XM2. When I last times a Picture camcorder model that saw it was overexposed and thus had no comparison to.
Antwort von hyneck:
In fact it was a bit above, but only:
Now the camera linked to me of a lot cheaper than the VX2100 and of action, I have never had a sound synonymous words, ergo I do not understand what the camera is talking, or why I, like you write, "not the same with HD" "start" is up and what you want ... Many greetings
Chris ... because some changes regarding HDV film footage (stativ little pans) average hardware (dual processor) software and off
(a few dvd player, format ask) on sicht device (LCD TV) ... which then brings synonymous something may cost more.
gruß cj
Antwort von hyneck:
Hi cj & Markus,
thanks for the info! To that extent I think I still prefer the DV-format ... try it and then probably times with the VX2100. If someone happens to have a good and cheap source is known, I am delighted with a purchase tip ;-)
Many greetings
Chris
Antwort von Chezus:
If you really have fun with HD do you have much more money to invest and as your ceiling of Euro 1658 with the VX2100 sowieso exceeded searched würd ich synonymous with the stay.
You have with you your joy synonymous believe me. Bin synonymous superior on whether my next camera in the direction of HD is, just because there are still some hurdles to overcome first, I will.
Antwort von Cpt_morgan:
Hi cj & Markus,
thanks for the info! To that extent I think I still prefer the DV-format ... try it and then probably times with the VX2100. If someone happens to have a good and cheap source is known, I am delighted with a purchase tip ;-)
Many greetings
Chris hi chris,
So in the long term it will be out in the direction hd go
only is the train until losgefahren and spread to many more tracks
(standards). in one or two years because it already looks different.
because it will take a path of breitgetretenen receptive to
reproducing give in the price range of today's dv segments.
So beginner HDV cams for under 500 euro / lcd tv for under 500 euro
and in better quality, etc.
gruß cj
Antwort von Chezus:
Mich würd mal interested in what camera he has since bought ...
Antwort von D. s. N.:
Hi Chezus,
none yet ;-) - but it is probably the VX2100.
Regards
Chris aka The fast Nick
Antwort von Chezus:
Ahja everything clear. Na dann lass of times after you hear when you have and whether you're happy with it
Antwort von YourMajesty:
've both XM2 as synonymous the VX2000e.
The VX is the XM actually in all respects superior. Processing, sound, image noise LowLight, handling .....
I would definitely to the Sony rates. Did my order 1199th - including orig. SonyWW and orig. Sony Tele bought the part and works fantastically.
For me, there would have been the significant extra cost for a 2100er certainly not worth the trouble - with the VX2000e'm very satisfied.
Who still looks ne XM2 - I sell here in my forum!
Regards
Tom
Antwort von Der schnelle Nick:
Day,
I've now ordered the VX2100 and expecting their arrival - you will then know what I think of it!
Regards
Chris
Antwort von Chezus:
But remember: the quality is very good, but probably that is why you must not cry (like in your first post announced).
To do this you will probably need a 6-digit amount or lie down and invest in HD so that the raw material for ululation beautiful.
Bin mal gespannt on your first impression
