Frage von AndyErfurt:
Hi,
I would like for my new mini-DV camcorder is not more than 250 EUR - if necessary even less.
The aim his services on holidays or small events do - that is all well if you hold something wonderful experience:)
However, it should synonymous relatively "good" shots (I write very carefully);) in the room during daylight hours or make an ordinary indoor light.
The Panasonic NV-GS60 I heard that this is very much noise when little light is available. Is that correct?
It is certainly impossible, but there is relatively "good" camcorder in this price range is not sooo much noise when something has little light?
Regards
Andy
Antwort von Markus:
It is certainly impossible ... ... if one of well-preserved, used, analog camcorders once aside. They have often produces less noise than low-priced digital models, but then had a camcorder so synonymous have a much higher starting price.
Experience with a cheap digital camcorder you have in your last thread already made.
Antwort von Jan:
GS 80 & GS 90!
Antwort von j.t.jefferson:
Thanks for the tip, Jan. ...
because the noise is very low in low light?
Mark, yes I know but I would like to halt new digital particle n;)
Antwort von Jan:
Well the time is now, unfortunately, the good class. These models have only halt the small sensor (1 / 6) partially with 800,000 and 1 million pixels, the rush of holding more naturally. When the class you have to stop with superior claim to use a video light, fortunately, has a 80 GS Accessory shoe (which I succeeded in discovering 90 non-GS could).
If the boys & girls at the premiere of football with their camera using a head light, should actually absorb any light that in subdued light with a 250 ¬ Camera without additional lighting no pot to win is the first of at least 100x more expensive.
GS 60 times already, I would not choose, it has the cheap Letterbox 16 / 9 mode - you offer then resolution, the accessory shoe is missing, just as the grid line insertion, the optical stabilizer not to mention (at the GS 80 is really good times is - class!)
Because GR has the D 725 even the anamorphic 16 / 9 mode, with more resolution & wide.
Well the stability of the GS 90 is determined by the highest standard of the class - the new OIS plus. What can - could be already in the HDC SD 5 shows - Video Active was at her grade of "excellent" - the note will usually only men handle cameras and shoulder.
Well now that 42X optical zoom (GS 90) really need to be Sonyhat because the 40x model in 2007, demonstrated how it has done wrong.
The halt is physics, so you take more lenses, especially for small periods of less favorable lenses - the more the light spreads unperturbed by the area, you have sharp losses in such mega-zooms, especially in the Wide Angleund in the telephoto range. That you can be very difficult to offset with electronics.
The new JVC (825) I've just seen, who is a very small MiniDV camera is looking, it is likely to be resourceful. The now official Parternschaft for Konica MinoltaObjektiv (now Sony collects Not just for the sensors - but s.der Optics synonymous with) should not hurt her synonymous. I can not yet estimate - exactly like the GS 90, the first tests have shown.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Markus:
If the boys & girls at the premiere of football with their camera using a head light, should actually absorb any light that in subdued light with a 250 ¬ Camera without additional lighting no pot to win is the [camera] of Premiere is at least 100x more expensive . That you have a very vivid manner, Jan. This paragraph is included in my links. :-)
Antwort von Jan:
Well, the user will not only understand ....
GS 90, because I had quite the Led light, 1 / 25 sec in Shutter (GS 80 can only s.1/50 manual) and the improved wide-angle - now 33.8 mm Focal, 36-37 mm should be'80s have - having beat .....
VG
Jan
Antwort von jk:
Can I use an intermediate question?
I had, after long reflection on a NV-GS80 tends. Now, I have noticed that the successor NV-GS90 there. After Comparison Page on the Panasonic I noticed that the NV-GS80 has a Objektibabdeckung, the NV-GS90 not. Is this the lens completely unprotected and this presents a problem? According to the values, the NV-GS90 better, you can test this without any results assessed?
Antwort von Jan:
GS 90 has a built in lens protection.
If one of the accessory shoe aside, there are now more interesting things.
OIS plus is a bit better - this one has already known to 90%.
When would be a worsening picture possible - I tip quite strong (the large zoom range and the enhanced wide-angle), but we are surprised, what the magazines which Labotest make - to say.
VG
Jan
Antwort von jk:
Thanks for the interesting arguments. Me, the smaller pixels (370,000) slightly aback and your presumption that the picture may be worse. You seem indeed to speak from experience. Or will I use this difference as a layman / Beginners do not see? Where you have a GS90 ever had in his hand? I was already in some markets, but had no luck. :-(
Antwort von Jan:
I am a seller and had the camera since 25.01 in the store.
I think let's face it, a regular customer will not see it, possibly to cover possible! Weaknesses of the laboratory tests at the Video Magazine.
More in small focal Optics means stop, sharpness and contrast losses losses (very often in wide & Tele), possibly shading edge (Vignetierung), possibly more CA (color bleeding) - this is physics - more lenses is called the light is dispersed unkotrollierter. It is no secret why fixed focal length lenses with little superior services perform.
Wide Angleheisst More often, lines are not straight, Vigentierung - because the light is now even more to the edge must be - what is difficult, if not so klappt Randabschattung black outlines of a cloud image.
VG
Jan
Antwort von jk:
Thank you for your expert answer. A seller that is there is still synonymous what that something like this to understand. Why do I always meet with the zero clue :-).
What I s.der NV-GS90 positively think, is:
- The built-in video light, but the question arises whether this brings something and then if the Battery durchhält long.
- OIS plus seems to be better.
- Verschluszeit
- Built-in lens cover persönich I like better than a lens cap
For the NV-GS 90 speaks for me:
- Test results were all positive
- Passive Accessory shoe
- Conventional filter diameter for accessories
Can you possibly estimate, when experience shows that first test reports can be expected? Where can you find something so regularly?
Absolutely, I want the GS90 times in the hand, the GS80 fits comfortably in your hand. You know a market, which is already on the shelves. Media Markt and Expert on demand with expected mid-February.
Thank you very much.
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
thanks you.
Well, the shops they want to probably not yet. Some still have a few stocks of GS 80 Since, and since the new GS 90 is not extremely different, wait until they stop the GS has 80 sold. If you have any model of the 2007 and of 2008 as a dealer because then you will be close to all present.
Panasonic GS 90 is delivered exactly as SDR H 40, GS 90 was 25.01 there, and I work in no favorite Top 10 Electronics Market in Germany (which will be partially supplied preferred, since they in the store have its own shop - for example when there is Canon & Sonyso) zb.
Test report? Time on the websites of the most famous magazines look to when the new spending.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Tom Keller Schweiz:
Hi,
after which I am now synonymous wants to buy a video camera (to play videos with friends, relatives and family want to turn!), I would like to know whether that is the Panasonic GS 90 is to use!
Schonma THANKS in advance!
Antwort von Markus:
... to which I am now synonymous wants to buy a video camera (to play videos with friends, relatives and family want to turn!), I would like to know whether that is the Panasonic GS 90 is to use! That is so non-specific manner, as if someone asked if a VW Polo that would, with a few friends, relatives and family (of course not all simultaneously) driving around.
From this perspective, the answer is: Yes, that's it. Just like any other camcorder synonymous.
Antwort von dukebts:
Would like synonymous between the Panasonic GS80 or the new GS90 decide.
Making because the real 16:9? And you should, if one is fussy, the less effective pixels to be careful?
LG,
dukebts
Antwort von Jan:
True 16 / 9 can be rather difficult to define, to gabs times a thread here - I think of Mark.
The two cameras each have a 4:3 sensor (ie not a real 16 / 9), but to ensure anamorphic 16 / 9 mode, which means of switching of 4:3 to 16:9 more Resolutionund more wide impact.
Better than the letterbox (eg GS 60) - just below and above which squeeze or cut off (a lot of old cameras in the 16:9 function) - simply stretched (egg heads).
Because we here at the cheapest camcorder class are - we have been lucky, not the 16:9 letterbox or Squeezemodus to have before us.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Markus:
True 16 / 9 can be rather difficult to define, to gabs times a thread here - I think of Mark. Are you here?
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Antwort von dukebtd:
The two cameras each have a 4:3 sensor (ie not a real 16 / 9), but to ensure anamorphic 16 / 9 mode, which means of switching of 4:3 to 16:9 more Resolutionund more wide impact.
Better than the letterbox (eg GS 60) - just below and above which squeeze or cut off (a lot of old cameras in the 16:9 function) - simply stretched (egg heads).
Because we here at the cheapest camcorder class are - we have been lucky, not the 16:9 letterbox or Squeezemodus to have before us.
VG
Jan Should I be better in the 4:3 full record Resolutionzu get?
And why has the 90's now less pixels? 370,000 to 540,000 effective with 80s. You notice that when one is fussy?
LG
dukebtd
