Frage von MarkusGZ:
Hello.
Since I am looking for a camcorder, I came to this Page synonymous and have a couple questions.
- I need a camcorder to film mostly in Angelei and in the wild to shoot (synonymous night).
- The price should be around 250 ¬ lie.
- The camera should not cause noise
Today was in the advertising prospectus, a JVC GZ-MG130 for 249, -. Would that perhaps a camcorder to make good recordings?
mfg Markus
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Movies ... ... ... synonymous night about 250 ¬ ... To MG130 can I say nothing, therefore only a general comment: A good image quality in low light in this price class do not get. If you do not quite want to spend much more, then calculate the same or better light an additional one.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Nachtmensch:
Yeah, I almost thought of me.
So during the day then a good quality and low noise :-).
What is extra light. s.der drann a Camera?
Call me a name of a lamp, so I imagine / View can
mfg Markus.
Antwort von chlorophyll:
Swit 2010
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... What does it mean to additional light. s.der drann a Camera ... Under normal circumstances, yes. You can, of course, synonymous otherwise provide for more light: street lighting, car headlights, flashlights - everything is better than with a 250-euro-in camcorder to film the dark.
Nominal ... me a description of a lamp, so I imagine / View can ... With names tu me hard in this class, because everything I change, costs more than a MG130, but a lamp in the type of SonyHVL-20, for example, should suffice.
Two more tips about this: If you take a lamp, which with the same battery as your camcorder to operate is to save you money and effort. And forget those cheap LED Funzeln of ebay. LED lights that really suck (like the guest said Swit), cost money, unfortunately, correct.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von MarkusGZ:
@ Bernd: Ok then, the issue with the LED lights already done.
To perhaps my claims s.die quality to you.
Had last year for the fishing holiday of a camcorder Aldi (Medion 90th ..) borrowed. Was sufficient. And since the camera quite a bit older, but should at the new price in the lower class was to be found where the picture quality is good. Interesting for the night shots would be maybe a Sony (hc. ..) with the infrared absorption.
mfg Markus
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Medion 90th ... .. really enough ... In this class I know enough to make you useful to be able to advise, but if I remember correctly, is here in the forum of the Panasonic NV-GS90 than at present with the best equipment for little money. The even has a built in light, but not much more than a brief next meter should radiate. But perhaps enough so that you know? With the search you can find some contributions to this camcorder.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Daigoro:
Interesting for the night shots would be maybe a Sony (hc. ..) with the infrared absorption.
In the vicinity of absolute darkness and in any case interesting - if one with the "Nachtsichtgeraet" Optics can live (do not need color - is holding green / black and quite dark).
Only more than 1-2 meters away, the lights Infrarotfunzel not synonymous and the synonymous still at a fairly small area (perhaps one-half to 1 / 4 of the picture, depending on distance).
There are synonymous, as far as I know, the Sony's the only ones in the price range, the infrared film.
Antwort von MarkusGZ:
So long distances, I have not. So with 2m since I already come out and the place is always a little lit. Quite dark floor, it is never.
Maybe just go into a shop, taking pictures and the s.Television they play at all times to an impression to get.
mfg Markus
Antwort von Daigoro:
Maybe just go into a shop, taking pictures and the s.Television they play at all times to an impression to get. Do not expect too much - at its 250 Euro Camera's can order NEN seller will be difficult to find the right place because reinkniet.
Antwort von Theo_Rehticker:
Advance: I'm also Beginners with modest skills without adequate comparison to really profound statements to make. A few years ago I expanded my photography hobby to the Videography. Nature photography in twilight should be possible and the equipment should be small and easy.
My choice fell on a JVC GR-DX48E.
The camcorder is very small, light and cheap but the most important purchase criterion for me was the strong light with a possible lens
aperture of F1, 2! So and I was synonymous with poor lighting largely satisfied. The lamp has built-in support even exceeded my expectations. Whether and how well the device actually is, I can not say because I am a direct comparison is lacking. But this forum is full with competent people who are happy to share their experiences pass.
Antwort von MarkusGZ:
Hello
Thanks for the reply. But the price is at around 470 ¬
mfg Markus
Antwort von Theo_Rehticker:
Did the pre cca.3-4 years, less than 450 ¬ get. Used, I think 250 ¬ uro perfectly possible. Since I'm researching.
Antwort von Theo_Rehticker:
Since I'm geplättet, joy for me, but unfortunately no help for you, which is really loud Neupreis price search is still above 460 ¬. Since I was probably lucky. A DX-28 (synonymous light Stark) is now at 20.30 clock in the auction house auctioned. Current bid is ¬ 64.77.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Hi friend anglers (... and the Streamer for catching pike tomorrow already bound ;-)
So try to eBay adopted a SonyDCR needed to score. The NightShot are synonymous (green)
In addition, a Petzl DUO Battery with belt pack (One Headlight which is water resistant and has Leds and normal bulb - the pear against a normal e Red Pear exchange is accepted)
The camera on a tripod next to the RodPot sure to ring the Bissanzeiger then simply press the Rectaste landing and filming.
From the volume seen her, any Camera quieter than a multi role in the crank is. Since you will have no Probs.
An EWA MARINE bags may already be of benefit especially when related to the night dew Ansitz ..... yes because the camera on tripod stand ready to be crucial to the case directly.
Since the automatic dung often builds in the dark images, please landing field manual focus so you can see later, everything is sharp and not blurred images of surprise.
A safety distance to RodPod of 2 m is absolutely ok. Thus in any rush landing Malör not happen. The use of head Ruten (put) must be on hand on the rod are respected. Not the one from the Camera versehn umstösst.
The head light is lit Landungsberreich synonymous to synonymous later, the fish tape to be seen.
Everything can go through at home and only cut the supply of the fish must be top priority needs.
Should bream caught on as the camera can be synonymous times before the run to bite the squeak of the display carry filming / documenting.
After 45 minutes, but times change the cartridge otherwise a fish bites and the recording is no longer sufficient.
For day shots is a polarizing filter attached to the water Spieglung lift.
When you dip so you can bite into a nice little track of ;-)
Alla I wish a lot of fun and Petri Heil
MfG
B. DeKid
PS * replacement batteries and always with 2 -3 tapes take *
Antwort von Theo_Rehticker:
Wow - concentrated anglers and video skills!
Perhaps my reference to the aperture synonymous helpful. For the assessment of a lens is obviously not only the luminous ausschlagebend but synonymous sharpness, image quality and correction of errors. As I move kompetenzmäßig but on thin ice, my knowledge is the size of the chip and the type of signal processing is also very important for good Lowlight Recordings.
Testing is the best method - but aperture and chip size could be precisely the criteria that you enable the correct choice.
In order to objectively and technical correction or addition is requested.
Antwort von chlorophyll:
@ DeKid course gehts tomorrow Hecht & CO. Had now long enough break :-)
Then it would indeed SonyDCR ne-HC ... yes to consider
SonyDCR-HC27 209.00
SonyDCR-HC37 255.00
SonyDCR-HC45 259.00
SonyDCR-HC47 342.90
SonyDCR-HC51E 187.90
SonyDCR-HC62 288.50
SonyDCR-HC53E 205.59
but what?
mfg Markus
Antwort von B.DeKid:
For chips
Due to the already often-mentioned "small CCD chips" in the new cameras are installed, you can really only recommend camcorder used particularly in the euro under 1000/500 class that can actually receive "if only synonymous SD" usually pretty good cameras 3-5 years before really cost money.
Thus, the families, the camera now with a new HD and was exchanged for the old model sold on EBAY is the first choice.
The Lenses in the class are always less than 50 mm in diameter and it is still synonymous ok.
LowLight is synonymous for a Canon Camera XL only be good .... so must also be highlighted.
When fish can / should not really illuminate the water and wants synonymous to "football headlights" refrain (although in many Ansitz I have wanted this.
For the infrared images in green if you would like to recommend to film an IR LED bulb that's what you get now in any hardware store.
Personally, I like green but this does not look me because he always s.BlairWitch or Paris Hil ton * remembers.
Of The Petzl DUO I mentioned is very good - and if the main bulb against Red (LED) bulb exchanges absolutely Batteries economical and fit perfectly adequate. Energy-saving lamps are actually already starting and give s.Wasser (due to the normal smell lanterns fingers s.den / bait left)
Consequently, the area reserved s.Wasser really well lit and should be synonymous rich.
Up to the sharpness (focus) would I use the camera shutter and the aperture setting alone (auto) have carried out.
The filming or fishing in pairs is always advisable, therefore, may be synonymous a fairly good result can be expected.
Bzgl. the quality of SD pictures vs. HD recordings can only say that most of the "Angel" movies always tend to 320x240 or 640 x 480 in the network occur. On the use of interlaced and deinterlaced this was respected.
Thus an "old" good "SD Camera actually better than a" new "HD Camera.
More you can not really relating to say ....
MfG
B. DeKid
PS:! Main focus is always on the landing of the fish basket or the supply of the fish. The film about the partner or the Tripod!
Antwort von B.DeKid:
@ DeKid course gehts tomorrow Hecht & CO. Had now long enough break :-).......
Then it would indeed SonyDCR ne-HC ... yes to consider
..........
but what?
mfg Markus Hui because you ask me now ..... I would durchgehn old web tests and / or experience of a user of the mentioned cameras waiting.
Personally, I always take my with 2 Camera that is a SonyDCR PC303E .......
Yes break was again enough or I go in the winter synonymous to other Fischis ..... Mosel Rhine and Nahe plus smaller ponds and streams along with all near me ;-) The main objective but fish are trout and eel Waller.
Everything else catches or KöFis.
Antwort von Jan Merlin:
Where it is just around the small Cams goes ...
Weis one of you, what a filter connector thread which has SonyDCR-HC62? And the Pana NV-GS90?
If you are one of the two could get a gift, what would you choose?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... what a filter connector thread ... DCR-HC62 ... 30mm
And ... ... ... NV-GS90 Absolutely none. Such specifications can be found incidentally s.schnellsten on the homepage of the Manufacturer.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Jan Merlin:
Thank you Bernd! On the producer side, I am unfortunately not found anything ...
Antwort von Markus:
As always (in terms of image quality is not recoverable wrongly) used camcorder recommended, but eBay synonymous much scrap courses, I would just like to briefly mention something:
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Antwort von B.DeKid:
As always (in terms of image quality is not recoverable wrongly) used camcorder recommended ,......... Umm .... yes ok.
I recommend always really old or discarded Cams.
Although the picture quality is really for me is not the first factor is usually.
Mir gehts rather the relation
I see the most so if you today a cam used for the 500 - 1000 euro brings, whereas the model purchased before 3-5 years, twice or even more had tasted, can be seen as "normal" user does not lie so wrong what the Cam / quality is concerned.
Vorallem can be obtained by the consumer zeal of some, mostly good barely used models wet. The fever now in the "I must now Knipsen Digital or HD film" The newly acquired equipment must be soft.
So I have in the past have often made good deals, especially in matters synonymous PC Equitment.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von MarkusGZ:
Hi,
synonymous yes because I want to film at night, it will probably not Be Sony.
Only question is which?
Have just synonymous for HC44 the 279 ¬ seen.
mfg Markus
