Frage von King For A Day:
Hello dear forum community!
I've been reading for some Wohen with the forum and must say that I think it's class!
Now the problem: I'm about 10 years, rotated in my youth films, then with a Hi8 camera of the parents.
Now I've rediscovered by an internship at a media workshop, my old love for the shooting.
I have informed me very much synonymous, but I can not decide, however. Whether I like the semi-professional stock eg Canon Xh A1s or SonyHdr-FX1000E go, or whether synonymous relatively cheaper camera such as Canon Hv30evtl for instance, the wide-angle and etc, which has indeed proved a very good picture.
I must say I am in matters camera operation is not familiar with manual settings. But I think that can be learned, yes.
I'm afraid at the moment somehow make the wrong decision, I ikaufe eg the HV30 and it is not enough for my purposes, it would be annoying. But equally annoying would be to use an expensive cam as the quasi xha1s among their possibilities to.
Would be nice if I practically experienced user could name a few experiences, what opportunities the differences in handling, in turn, to hire for Bildgestalttung synonymous.
I'd love short films, making films, but synonymous landscape photography and video art.
Am pleased with your answer!
Regards
Antwort von pilskopf:
I know your story. : D As for me. I ne me HC9, nen purchased 0.5x Wide Angleund Glidecam one and am very satisfied. The Canon is probably a bit ahead in the Picture, but has a worse micro and probably consists of more plastic. : D
Antwort von bernie_r:
I have pondered long sought and synonymous.
I had been using an MVX3i Canon DV camera.
Now I have the brand new HV40, which is supposed to completely switch to a modified identical with the HV30. The purchase was a compromise solution.
My first impression:
It seems all very delicate and does not feel particularly at high quality. Especially the joystick.
The drive noise is louder than the old MVX3i.
The built-in Micro is so-so ... In very very quiet you can hear the tape recordings. When you press the Recording s.der Camera wärend any button or rotate the zoom wheel, you can hear this clearly on the film.
On the menu structure you can get used well. I would rather have more switches.
The picture quality is beyond doubt and that was for me the important thing.
The Sonyhat a better feel, looks valent. But that is only felt. Whether it is really high quality mechanical, I can not say.
The feel is my s.sich much value as I mourn my MVX3i stop soon. Because you really had the feeling that a quality tool to have in hand.
When a good tactile HDV camera will have, you have to put much more money on the table. Moreover, I was not ready. So was my compromise, the HV40.
Greeting
Bernie
Antwort von King For A Day:
Thanks for your reply!
@ pilskopf: schonmal good to know that you are not alone with such problems;) for what you use for your Hc-9?
@ bernie_r: s.Anfang I was about to buy the HV30, but as synonymous with you, I was disturbed to feel. But since I could not ignore the fact that history with the relatively poor Microsystems, I have heard synonymous. Have you had an external mic connected schonmal s.der HV40?
Antwort von bernie_r:
No, I did not.
Bother me not at all synonymous sooo especially since I already complete finishing my movies.
In the rare cases where absolute quiet scenes can be recorded and you can hear the tape drive, I settle with the sound down the editing software.
Once synonymous only a low background noise is present, which no longer interferes. Otherwise, the microphone is a good average.
I feel so often: gut feeling wins. What use is the best camera if you do not like them in your hand.
Bernie
Antwort von pilskopf:
So I do not put down what I am with my turn. Look at my Vimeo link, there you have currently 3 videos on Choice. At least I can with my HC9 say that I do not have a Prob with sound, even if only to hear nothing at all, would hum If a notice. Sonyhat but always decent microphones installed which you can really use synonymous. And obviously, as the mechanics inside looks like, no idea, but the outside is nothing to stop plastic.
What is really bad is the Auto Focus, completely unusable. So a fixed focus is a duty. Otherwise, she still has Nightshot and ne slow motion function with 200 frames per second. Limited to 3 seconds which makes s.end then 12. But just who it needs.
But in my videos are synonymous not forget, always with the Raynox HD5050 rotated, the synonymous takes quite a bit of sharpness.
Rolling Shutter, incidentally never noticed and seen. But the videos of the HV30, I find every time again impressively good and sharp when I saw that. But I can not make a direct Comparison.
Antwort von kalle70:
HV40 original price Euronen 900
New price MVX3i Euronen 2005 1400
Klingelts?
Good cameras today still cost good money!
cheap plastic stuff for little money can not replace it.
Antwort von King For A Day:
Not now understand what the intervention with my question ?!?!?
Antwort von bernie_r:
Correct, the MVX3i time was more expensive than the HV40 today. Comparison of respect, of course, is lagging
The MVX3i was once located in Prosumerbereich.
For prosumer cameras today will pay much more than 4 years ago. Only in the consumer area, the price-performance ratio has improved. You get in the consumer cameras today much more quality for the same price.
Therefore I have decided with a heavy heart for a consumer camera. The next best for my needs would cost more than twice as much. That was me then but not value.
Bernie
Antwort von JonasB:
Purchase any Canon XH A1 ... you prefer saving the money. Not that it's not a good camera ... only you make a novice feel inexperienced and naive;) (;) Not blame them.
Your strength lies rather in the passion and therefore not in a perfect technique;) Good films kannste with two cameras rotate.
From this ... buy yourself ne HV30, which is a lot and once you have more experience and can give several reasons why you need ne other / better camera, you will notify you again. : P
I do not think that if you look at the HV30 buy, you said after the first movies: "Shit, I'd rather ..."
MFG
Jonas
PS I stand before your decision, I would Angleholen me an XL1 with nem nem manual Lens and Wide. Perfect for practice and gives my opinion, much better images than the HV30 (; In a good hand;)).
Antwort von Bespi:
You purchase the XHA1? If what you want to do, you can not say anything else. I would take the XHA1 today but used to produce more, it has finally been 3 years old.
I was initially synonymous've swapped the HV 20 and after 9 months on the XHA1 (; used as PAL / NTSC hybrid version). The HV20 has (a decent picture quality, almost identical with the XHA1), but for scenic things and difficult situations it is simply not suitable. But I think the XHA1 is synonymous to use only properly, if you film from Tripod. Manual shooting is with a camera handle of the hand for some time hardly feasible, due to the s.Arm full load. Since it would have to be a shoulder-mounted camera. I therefore liebäugle some time with an EX3, because I came apart with the first two cameras had often synonymous s.The limits of HDV codecs.
The HV20 way, I'm still. It fits well as a second camera for capturing the un XHA1, and also to get them used no more regular price.
LG Bespi
Antwort von bernie_r:
Have fun in the decision :-)
Antwort von King For A Day:
So, here I am again :-) Thank you for your support! I've now ordered the HV30 with an external mic, uv filter, Pol Filters and wide-angle converter. If I was to encounter s.Grenzen in the coming months so that one could indeed always refilling again. But think small camcorder son does not hurt, synonymous for events and celebrations. Get me to sign here again if I have tested the equipment! Wish you all a good Sunday and a stress free week!
Greetings Sebi
Antwort von bobcorn:
Hi,
after xm2 now I've got a hv30. The haptics is a bit crummy at first glance, but the images have convinced me then :-)
s.anfang I had a bit of an inferiority complex, because the people with the xm2 have respectable and you can hear them say: "huch comes to watching TV,"
aaaber with the advantage of small hv30: you can loose everywhere, filming without authorization synonymous, just BECAUSE it is so small :-)
And the people running them do not like all synonymous.
the measly is forgotten after two or three times. ok, the zoom ring was horny when xm2, but what solls
ne rather small camera. EH will not take you through the equipment.
