Frage von CrashAsCrashCan:
Hi All,
so now I'm desperate and "superficial knowledge" enough for me for you to Advices and opinions my camcorder can ask Purchase:
What I currently have s.Hardware for disposal:
1) 16:9 PAL Roehrenfernseher, the being to be up for grabs
2) HDD Recorder (; 250Gb, DV In, S-Video)
3) PC (; 1.5Gb RAM, Dual-Core Processor, 2.66 GHz, Firewire, "enough" HDD space), is synonymous until further notice not negotiable, XP and Linux, plus NAS for archiving
What I really want to do with the camera: capture images of all the "milestones" of the development of my children
This means concretely:
" Shooting (; with Tripod, but synonymous "out of hand")
" Cutting the filmed material to say (but at a very grassroots level, I have found in the item "artistic Weitergestaltung" more or less no ambitions at the moment ...)
" View the sheared material s.PC (; large 22''screen with "almost full hd" resolution) and / or s.TV
" Generation of DVD for the usual suspects in the Family and Friends
" Camcorders Budget <700 euros
After I have spent considerable time on www.videotreffpunkt.com, www.videoaktiv.de, www.cnet.de / tests / camcorder, and on other sites have to THINK I found:
a) my camcorder will have an improved image stabilization, I would like him can screw onto an existing tripod, it's so small and light as it somehow only works HDD as a medium is not excluded, with tapes I want (actually, despite all the advantages) not start taking pictures so I have not
b) with AVCHD camcorders, I will not have to employ me well, because even my modest requirements of cutting (my PC, or would but my patience; overload). Synonymous'm not sure if it would be useful in Umrendern Intermediates in my case, I fear that already own the "lasts forever" (; how long it takes about a minute AVCHD material?) - Is that correct?
Where would be your recommendation against expectations, AVCHD, then the Canon HF100 would be set
c) JVC GZ-HD30 / GZ-HD40, unfortunately, seem to be the only devices that (making possible within the budget HD, or the "naitive cutting"), then I must, however, with the "ugly" live handling alternatives it does not seem to exist
d) remains so MG330 SD as "rational decision" with all future handicaps, as I currently flirting with the GZ-GZ-or MS100EX
e) Software: Adobe Premier Elements would do it properly, right?
I overlook something, you have more information and feedback?
1000 thanks in advance
Antwort von kalle70:
Do not so many thoughts in your budget You can not go far wrong.
Today's camcorders are different for good very good Picture Picture and Picture outstanding.
True lousy stuff there are really only at the coffee roaster or so.
Therefore, I would (s.Deiner place the cam in my budget, the recording medium, and handling; earlier in the hand) select take.
For this purpose a second battery, bag and possibly a tripod.
That's enough.
Antwort von actaion:
Because would-tube televisions and DVD erstelllung yes synonymous SD range. this makes the cut again synonymous easier.
In normal betrachtunsgabstand the synonymous looks good, if it is reasonable for a camcorder.
SD-resolution pixelated look only if you s.PC it in full, while you sit in front of it, anschaust.
The 16:9 tube TV, when has a reasonable size, ie 70 or 80cm, I would not give the synonymous, when the place is here. The LCD TVs are all well & chic flat, rich (in image quality, color, contrast, viewing angles, etc.), but usually not approached s.gute tube devices, and the sound is not synonymous.
I would then take a good SD device, which the PAL SD resolution synonymous at least to some exploits. So something like Panasonic H280/S150 or SonyDVD506/510. They have also synonymous a good stability.
Antwort von CrashAsCrashCan:
First of many thanks for your feedback.
Then last time I was with MM, since the H280 gabs for CHF500, - (; approximately EUR 330), "reasonably fit" that one thing to me (in a direct Comparison with the competitors, is below) is not really gefaellt Size / Weight .
The others were "sightseeing" candidate
- Panasonic SDR-H 80 EG
- SonyDCR-SR87
The MM consultant said. his recommendation is the Canon FS20, but which I here after the test
http://forum.slashcam.de/meine-erfahrungen-with-dem-canon-legria-fs20-vt72051.html
Will probably also decide between the 3 candidates, so many kills himself probably does not
Cheers,
C
Antwort von actaion:
The H280 looks a bit plump, agrees.
The price is very favorable. Here at Saturn, it stands for 549 ¬ ;-).
The H80 can not compete because of the image quality. Can you even look at the comparison pictures at times videoaktiv.de.
For the SR87 was not wirklcih what to findne uaf fast. From the data here would suggest that it is located more near the H80, perhaps a bit ahead of the image quality. The FS20 is probably in dme area.
The H280 is certainly the best of the picture quality of the above. And the price of 330 ¬ is Save money!
If you can live with the slightly chubby body, I'd strike.
Antwort von CrashAsCrashCan:
The SR87 seems only to give CH, sony.ch has it, sony.de not have him. I think the SR87 to the SR77 is very similar, but have now understood augegeben, as are the different models of the SR series - overview see here
http://www.toppreise.ch/index.php?k3=2049&manu = 6 & filter = sr # comparison In any case, the SR87 "just" an electric stabilizer, in contrast to H80, the rest looks (on paper, and made synonymous in reality) is relatively similar, so kommts to operability etc to.
Well, look at me, I H280iger the barrel again s.and then yes maybe he is garnichtmehr so big and heavy ;-)
Ps: RoehrenTV - I hope my 32''Philips Pixel Plus lets me down in the foreseeable future ;-)
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Hi buy either a used example SonyDCR PC 330 e or a new Canon HV 20 or HV 30, but I would rather rely on the HV
Should you about miser of the targeted price you find.
Do not forget UV Filters
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von CrashAsCrashCan:
To close the open point to be determined "" In the second visual inspection of the H280 was then not quite so lumpy.
Tests since Saturday synonymous Sony Vegas Movie Studio 9, that hitherto doing everything I can tell him;). Am also happy about my "Toward HD" decision.
Cheers,
C
Antwort von B.DeKid:
.... Am also happy about my "Toward HD" decision.
Can you be synonymous, the HD does not produce better films, yet it makes a story better.
I still sit down to SD so synonymous - Who Cares ;-)
MfG
B. DeKid
Ok at work I definitely have 2k and 4 k to deliver justice to the standard, does not mean that I grow for my hobby needs HD ;-)
Antwort von Misterium:
First of many thanks for your feedback.
Then last time I was at MM because gabs the H280 for CHF500, - (; approximately Euro 330),
Hello CrashAsCrashCan
I would be interested in what the media market, have you seen for CHF 500 --- H280.
Thank you!
Antwort von CrashAsCrashCan:
The gabs in MM in http://www.sihlcity.ch/ - was the last one, otherwise it only had the issue in the.
