Frage von iasi:
at IBC2008 had Ted Schilowitz of Red or Scarlet, Epic and the synonymous described the DSMC and advertised ... and now Scarlet and Epic and specification in the form of snow already today ... the DSMC was not anyway to know more than DSMC for Digital Still Image and Motion Camera stands - somehow typical of Red.
Scarlet and the Epic, we know now is not more than the name ... the rest is silence ...
even with the announcement of import of Raw Red Premeire Adobe CS3, they had gegackert and then not put ... and synonymous here, now there is silence.
Antwort von el:
Somehow funny how everything repeats ...
Before the Red One gabs the same Discussions (does not work, only to cancel, never, etc.)
And suddenly she was there.
At that time it was even out of date and hergeschoben, this change is just the specs, date remains early 2009.
What is it bad to change something again?
From the slow giants, you obviously are not accustomed.
Not understand the fuss ...
Antwort von iasi:
na ja ... the red one with their few hundred copies per month to eat one thing - a mass product, as the scarleet be another.
red is also yes with the delivery of one or the accessories you are a little overwhelmed.
I also do not know that red in one of tomorrow today at the complete specification of the lots have been thrown ...
eh it remains to be hoped that as other competitive growing up ...
competitive and that the show wakes up the canon 5d and http://www.ikonoskop.com/dii/
in 9 months can do much to happen - which experience shows that it is synonymous over 1 year or even longer with the scarlet can take
in the school then we had people who had made major announcements, without any mention detailss can alss "big mouth" means.
details which are because of the revolutionary DSMC known?
what is the premiere pro red-raw-import anything?
So ne ... only sounds great now and bashful silence.
Antwort von el:
Germany agreed Nörglerland ... :-(
Antwort von Debonnaire:
@ iasi: What thou nörgelst HERE rum what the RED in your view to follow correctly or not correctly or make annoying? How should we help you HERE?
RED If the specifications of their products want to change, then do Sies. Point!
In all likelihood, the product is s.Ende so extensive and of high quality and are not bad if they at this stage to change the specs. Especially, since these changes are indeed due to the competition of the new DSLR with HD video function of Canon and Nikon has happened. So RED apparently still wants a top place as the Scarlet and better than the Canon and Nikon make. Is it cool and not be annoying!
If you partout but can not live with that a product that is not even on the market, you are not in a premature version hastily bought and you've now ärgerst that once a version 2.0 with better specs on the market has been thrown nor - especially while maintaining the originally announced date of publication (!) - to be improved, then you should probably contact the manufacturer ausweinen and not here!
Do you see things differently?
Antwort von iasi:
so so ... Debonnaire, you are one synonymous with red fans that everything will be red, with gratitude abnickt ... in scarlet-forum now circulate once wild speculations and absurd wish-list ...
So I find it questionable, when in an interview the amenities of scarlet still scream mathematically market and listed a few days later without comment einkassiert be.
but it should give people on the basis of long-term planning something announcements.
RED is in any case the mouth all too often all too full ...
as synonymous with the subject in red-raw premiere pro ... "friday" said ... then: "next friday" ... and now: "we're working on it" ...
the good is nothing regarding the schedule for the scarlet suspect ... already on the red one had synonymous early order 1 year wait.
... and a small quote from a report to IBC2008:
"Much more than that for DSMC Image Digital Still and Motion Camera is Red so far but there will not officially known."
and read, but something big jim again resounds:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?p=286573 # post286573
while red and still sounds great, is quiet and still a competitor as anything out:
http://www.ikonoskop.com/dii/
http://www.ikonoskop.com/dii/80gb-ikonskop-memory-cartridge /
odd way: what is understood as the moaning - that does not go abroad in the German high:
namely that this is what they say. and that only promises what it can hold synonymous.
Antwort von iasi:
This change is just the specs, date remains early 2009.
. Summer 2009 ... and that it was already in the interview before the "process of change ...
"Only the specs? ... wow ... only!
Antwort von raymaker:
Your anti-RED campaign nervt slowly iasi. Troll please preferably in only one forum thread, currently verbaldiarrhoest your RED-Hasserei in multiple threads simultaneously
el & Debonnaire have said everything.
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Do what, iasi: RED punishment but simply with your (quiet!) Contempt and let them lie left unnoticed! DAS will teach again ne Spec to modify a product, such REDS!
I am sure that all the old RED instantaneously the Scarlet Specs restore as soon as you no longer relating to "RED" of you give ... Nowhere. Depending again!
You will miss us here safely, but as we have through! For you, we take your silence and your absence of here or somewhere else online grumbling, but to persevere!
I wish you here on behalf of all Slashcam, all the best in the future, and bye bye!
All that my adoption of iasi away of support here, but please be hereafter sign. Thank you!
Antwort von iasi:
I watch the A-Cam DII, then I see the old scarlet with changeable optics ...
and because of other manufacturers will certainly have what to ...
let's see if red still really good time with a super camera in the price range under 7000 ¬ comes out ...
the profit-market is one thing - and has since competitors like Arri red old look - but the mass market has different laws.
I wait in any case not in a scarlet, of which I no longer know as the name - and possibly the mid-2009 is being offered ... and while I had considered whether I buy the scarleet not with a small trip usa-connect ... Incidentally, not only should anyone believe that the scarlet costs only $ 3,000 until it is in Germany - tax and customs want synonymous still be paid - and still synonymous ¬ 3000 would be ok - would have been ...
PS: kritik s.RED is forbidden? och - tell me something, why this is so.
PPS: to us they say: "who cackles must submit synonymous." ... red hat at the last time pretty much gegackert.
Antwort von iasi:
Your anti-RED campaign nervt slowly iasi. Troll please preferably in only one forum thread, currently verbaldiarrhoest your RED-Hasserei in multiple threads simultaneously
el & Debonnaire have said everything. red-hasserei?
ei ei ... harsh words ... and yet so wrong ... but one of those red-worshipers, I am not synonymous ...
The title was synonymous: what's going on with RED?
nu just tell me, what it means:
"Wipe you minds of the past announced Scarlet. Forget the design and forget the price. It is all different now."
... and the 6 months prior to the (planned) delivery ...
So I do not know but 6 months for the new development to mass production?
... his casio ex-f1 6 months before the sale start already as a functioning prototype herumgezeigt ...
Antwort von el:
Your anti-RED campaign nervt slowly iasi. Troll please preferably in only one forum thread, currently verbaldiarrhoest your RED-Hasserei in multiple threads simultaneously
el & Debonnaire have said everything. Gaaanz peaceful people ... Let's talk iasi. Ich finds witzig.
Take the story of the Red One.
And then consider how he might look if there is Scarlet. :-)
nu just tell me, what it means:
"Wipe you minds of the past announced Scarlet. Forget the design and forget the price. It is all different now."
... and the 6 months prior to the (planned) delivery ...
In plain English this means: "We do our thing. If you do not buy fits something else. But please nerv others do not."
Antwort von PeterM:
Now Iasi has absolutely right.
I admire RED prior to dilution of the Profimakes.
And you should be grateful but synonymous ask whether the availability of HD cams under 50000 euros, or even an EX 3 for under 10K is not synonymous (certainly not auschieeslich) with what Red has to do.
Like Red on canon or Nikon react AUH but the big DSLR Manufacturer, inter alia, on Red reacts.
Right glad I was in the Red ARRI A.. Sch has underfoot.
Arri I love and am glad they are up, hopefully they do not sleep again.
I can still s.die animated Disussion here in the forum about the Nikon D3 with its 9 fps remember where some of you a few months ago told the ne DSLR with HD Vidofunktion nonsense was
Back to IASI position
Even as cautious Redfan not synonymous, I believe that both the Scarlet as synonymous as the Epic gebrausfertige products next year are available.
The Redone is just 17 and since Buider with a new audio board halfway finished and usable.
Antwort von jazzy_d:
To make films is probably synonymous ne DSLR rubbish. Even the beautiful can. But hey :-)
Antwort von Debonnaire:
To make films is probably synonymous ne DSLR rubbish. Why exactly?
Antwort von iasi:
Gaaanz peaceful people ... Let's talk iasi. Ich finds witzig.
Take the story of the Red One.
And then consider how he might look if there is Scarlet. :-)
In plain English this means: "We do our thing. If you do not buy fits something else. But please nerv others do not." perhaps I am forced to synonymous - I had the scarlet yesterday rather than today purchased ... and I had the scarlet synonymous with a smaller sensor and no change of optics of a canon 5d markII drawn before ...
but now I remember s.den spatz and opposition from the deaf ...
So should any other vendor ...
ie red will have to be careful, because passion is not very stable ..
I see the story quite synonymous with the red one - so good the camera is so little because everything went so perfectly round, as some like to see ...
with the canon 5d is probably really the time to wait and see - it's all to create a digital SLR camera ... like in the casio ex-f1 is the video function more like a beipack - if it is synonymous zb ports for ext.mikros there, it does not mean that one ton synonymous with the camera can record really useful.
especially the question of image quality - h.264 - Pan - ...
nevertheless shows the 5d that sensor and processor-efficient enough for 1080p ... and the Solid State Ikonskop with their 240mb / s shows that the synonymous memory is no longer the bottleneck.
let's see if the red again belongs to the pioneers
(at least what the value for money concerns - the DALSA Origin is technically perfectly with the red one similar ...)
Antwort von jazzy_d:
"Why exactly?"
Uff .... I now would you rather be synonymous considered that you do not take clippers to the film. No clue why.
So I do not take the film Click.
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Wahnsinnig informed statement! Ne role plays because, in whatever form that might be a perfect video camera and what it is "all other" NORMALLY use? Or would it perhaps more depends on what the thing REALLY CAN and the quality? - JUST!
Antwort von iasi:
red raw is one of the great increase of red ...
h.264 of the canon 5d are for the cut in any case far less likely ... only the computational costs can vary depending on the profile and level a quad-core system to its knees ...
we'll see what ultimately used canon ...
the very good and fast s.der canon mirror is folded up paralyzed - then what is offered, at least, is worse.
tonaussteuerung and manual control over headphones offers diee 5d apparently not - there is the micro-input only a weak dismal
The operation is primarily on the photographic functions designed.
nevertheless ... should be the profile and level-h.264 codecs high (at least, the 5d 35MB / s offer), so the 5d would be quite interesting ... to convert for the average man but probably will not come around ...
s.kann on and you renounce ton for the taking just touched on a field-recorders ...
35mm of the sensor with its low-light-capacity and the DOF is in any case already delicious ... and then there are the fine objective, which you can use ...
Antwort von cebros:
To make films is probably synonymous ne DSLR rubbish.
Why exactly? For example, therefore:
Antwort von iasi:
exactly ... gewackel this one has so synonymous in a continuous film.
bad when the towers in the holidays when many video and her tendency to ...
So if all the disadvantages, I would me the 5d still order ..
Incidentally: the belichtszeit make a little soon and it's not much to see ...
Antwort von jazzy_d:
:-)
Antwort von cebros:
adjust the belichtszeit a little soon and it's not much to see ... The rolling shutter effect is independent of the exposure time, but depends solely of the speed of the CMOS readout from. The large chips of DSLR do stop there a little longer ...
Clearly this is a rather extreme example, but the effect very nicely illustrated. Also not as pretty coming Vertical Wobbler - since then one speaks of Wobbling. For example, recordings without Tripod simply unusable.
Antwort von iasi:
na nevertheless:
in nearly 900sten forums-contributory called big jim now finally have a period, when with the new specifications for scalet and epic to be:
Early November
Of course, he had previously in hints - this time of great party with dancing girls - were made before he got back but the info has to be pushed out.
if they desired schedule for the mass delivery really should respect, then they deserve great respect.
Antwort von raymaker:
You are logged in since a week, and 28 of 30 of your contributions howl over from RED. Do you work for Arri? As you can see hardly any shares your opinion here.
Antwort von iasi:
You are logged in since a week, and 28 of 30 of your contributions howl over from RED. Do you work for Arri? As you can see hardly any shares your opinion here. what an opinion?
that red is now the beginning of November the new specifications will announce?
do you work because of red?
in other times it is not very reassuring when a company announced products (of which you would like a purchased) finally pulls back ...
of the scarlet is now only the name remains ... and there was never talk of the studies, but of products, the "early 2009" should appear ...
and the question may already be allowed to speculate why the RED again so high and cook can not say in early November ...
in the now nearly 1000 contributions in scarlet-thread round the wildest dreams ... 35mm sensor, alternate optik, 4k, 3000 $ and and and - that is almost a ONE for 3000 $ ...
whether red here like doing, when they expect to unlimited leave, the other question.
Antwort von shodushitanaka:
@ Iasi
This is not meant evil; Why put your energy, precious time and zeal in writing a script, camera pans, or practicing
what you normally do in the video field like ... - Rather than with opposite-the-wall race in here to employ.
Relax and beautiful greeting
Shodushi
PS: I know the camera does not but if you have T-shirts with "RED Is Doof" or even "Down With RED" print and send for free, would I take one out of solidarity; O)
Antwort von iasi:
it does just well, a bit worse the air to make ...
what surprised me is the response to criticism s.der as art and as red in the last few days has acted.
I am truly skeptical about the promise of red-time is concerned - and therefore synonymous with the question: what is going on with RED?
has calmed me yet None of the contributions here ...
while I had the scarlet for a project for next year already planned.
let's face it:
do you think that red until summer 2009, a completely new scarlet in sufficient quantities can bring?
I would even fly to the usa to make them in the red pick-shop.
only when I see how long other manufacturers need to a product to market maturity and then synonymous in the mass production has arrived ...
any business with t-shirts reassure me not ...
Antwort von PeterM:
Even though I am with IASI not score at all agree.
But for me is one thing clear. Neither the Scarlet or the EPIC gebrausfertige devices are considered in a year in units must be available.
Had not with the RED ONE erhebliher myself envying people delay all whiners and despite a really good camera market. (And since I am really new models with current audio board and build 17) to Red, I would not give Deut.
Honestly, it would not disturb me if it is quite Scarlet einstampfen and opted instead to develop ONE of the Epic would restrict.
For the 2K range ne me EX1 / 3
Even if the new Nikon or Canon for any time with "nice try" can designate, who knows what Canon and Nikon only legally (Nikon does not moderate marketing times due to its semi-camcorder line to take) so in the next 18 months will bring.
Whether Scarlet überhaubt a real market change has, who knows.
2 / 3 1chip with an expected moderate sensitivity to light and optics have established myself in any case not particularly turned on.
And synonymous DOF when the Magic for some word should be.
For the majority of amateurs is a high light sensitivity wesendlich important than Kinolock.
And as I said probably growing group of the (video) photgraphen will probably remain Markentreu their preferences.
The strange almost god-believers reactions of American RED / Scarlet user for me as a practitioner hardly 'nachzuvollzeihen.
But I had been synonymous for years of Zeiss sun glasses and not the cool of Jim.
Antwort von iasi:
I agree with the estimates of Peterm ...
although I supposed the printer of "red is stupid" t-shirts I, I see the (old) scarlet but positive:
the thickness of the scarlet-red would have been raw - with 2 / 3 duty and I would have fixed optics can live.
eg: A closer look at the canon 5d videos you can see that by compression artefacts.
the optics would have to ww telecharger covered - at t2, 8 - fixed focal lengths are of course better, but synonymous with the zoom would have been able to live.
would then monitor, ton (not absolutely required), power supply and storage fitted, then the scarlet for the 3000 $ (until it is ultimately in germany 3000 ¬) was ok ...
so incomprehensible that red umgeschmissen now everything has ...
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Iasi
the thickness of the scarlet-red would have been raw - ....... A closer look at the canon 5d videos you can see that by compression artefacts. The RAW format of the RED is
not without compression, just behave the wavelet compression procedure is different.
But the visible compression effects synonymous.
Antwort von dvcut:
At the moment, however, makes synonymous Red already thought the form in which the camera was introduced in Europe and will be distributed. Here, however, is synonymous rethinking necessary because without WEEE products for many a competitor at short notice an omission and a ban may obtain.
Antwort von Jan:
Even if the new Nikon or Canon for any time with "nice try" can designate, who knows what Canon and Nikon only legally (Nikon does not moderate marketing times due to its semi-camcorder line to take) so in the next 18 months will bring.
That will come!
The two companies are reflex in Dauerclinch eh (44 to 40% market share - it was I think around the world, Olympus, Pentax and Sony games, in principle, not important), Canon just lost their leadership, the shares in recent months were not good. The "half" of professional stock Canon to Nikon change.
Because now in Pixelwahnrennen nothing more to win is to have other benefits, in order to the customers of their camera to convince.
The feature film would be an advantage.
The Nikon D 90 is selling very well now, and you will laugh, if not a few customers, the feature film and then raised demand - not simply as a function built senseless dismissed.
Here comes one more thing .....
VG
Jan
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Dvcut
without WEEE ? What does the abbreviation?
Antwort von dvcut:
@ wolfgang
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richtlinie_2002/96/EG_%C3%BCber_Elektro-_und_Elektronik-Altger%C3%A4te
Antwort von iasi:
The RAW format of the RED is not without compression, just behave the wavelet compression procedure is different.
But the visible compression effects synonymous. true - only it's always a question of scale ...
The differences are very significant
